New York Mets Online points out players who you may not have known were on the Mets, including Warren Spahn.
…he forgot Tom Sturdivant, as seen in this creepy pic…
Remember Shea Stadium the way it was with one of these replica ballparks from Home Fields Inc.
…i picked up a fenway replica for a sox fan, and he loved it…wonder why there’s no citi field one yet – probably wants to save the paint…
Andrew at The ‘Ropolitans says Omar still has work to do, writing that “guys like Will Ohman and Juan Cruz are still on the market, and would be excellent additions to the Mets weak middle relief portion of the bullpen.”
Nicki Jhabvala at FanNation provides her alternate names for Citi Field, including the following:
2. Heimlich Field – Everyone can expect and prepare for the late-season choke. Safety first!
…not funny nicki, move on…must be a phillies fan…
Lastly, Eric Simon asks you to “name that Mets pitcher” in his ongoing series at Amazin’ Avenue.
id rather not lose any more draft picks for an over rated Cruz…
id rather just hop && pray DIRTY rebounds!
if only he could :(
you wouldnt waste a second round pick on Cruz?? You arent gonna get anything useful out of a second round pick
that’s not true at all. Lots of very talented players come from beyond the first round.
I dont feel like doing a search, but as a Mets fan you should know that. Mike Piazza was something like a 36th round pick as a favor from Tommy LaSorda to Mikey’s dad.
I would have no problem giving up a draft pick for Cruz. He always has a decent WHIP a good ERA and a high stike out ratio. Last year he had 71K’s in 51 innings.
It sucks to give up draft picks but Cruz has the talent to be a pretty solid closer and that would give us Cruz in the 7th, Putz in the 8th and K-Rod in the 9th. That’s just dirty.
Come Aug. we should have Wagner back which would give us 4 solid RP’s who can all close out a game.
I like Sanchez but who knows what he will or won’t do. The better the pen is the better the Mets will be since they aren’t adding any big bats.
I really don’t think you should be counting on Wagner for anything at this point. If he comes back then fine, but even if he does, I wouldn’t expect to get much out of him.
I for once don’t want him back either way.. if he’s back he’s gonna choke games away in the 7th inning for us.. no thanks
We can agree on that Alex. Let him go raise his alpacas and be gone.
wow, for once we agree.. no wonder is sunny today!! jk..
Two moves that may help the Mets and could come cheap.
1. Sign Rich Aurilia
2. Sign Will Ohman
The Phillies are looking at Ohman and I really hope Omar doesn’t let this guy get away.
I’m tired of hearing about chokes. You know who choked, the Patriots.
It’s a new baseball season. Try to enjoy it.
Niceeee, i like
It’s also not a choke when you battle back from 7 games back at the end of June to take the division lead by mid-September. The Phillies fended off a choke…it wasn;t the Mets choking.
But no one likes to ridicule the Mets more than most of their own fans. Kind of sad.
agree with you dave, but also keep it real and admit that having 4 game lead and ended up losing the division by 3 games is pathetic.. don’t give the team the glory in june when u also suppose to show guts and heart in september..
I’d rank it between unacceptable and pathetic…just saying if not for 2007, people would see a team that ran out of gas more than a team that collapsed. They came from a long way back.
2007 on the other hand….
why did they run out of gas? the SP wasn’t there, the offense wasn’t there and the bullpen. .well, u know.. they choke dave.. is ok to say it.. i also happened to agree that undert manuel they played better, but they folted down the strecth.. again..
now that we are not getting manny, I am anxious to see what daniel murphy can do. he is the type of player we need. I am also looking foward to seeing jonathan niese and his big curveball. now the rookies need to step up and help the big club.
here, here. That’s an awesome curve
Who’s pitching the 6th and 7th innings this year? Duaner Sanchez? Haha…This notion that the bullpen is completely “fixed” is also ludicrous, in addition to the ridiculous notion that the offense is “great.” This team has little if any dependable middle relief. I’d sign Cruz and look at Beimel, Ohman as well.
P. Feliciano
D. Sánchez
C. Robertson
R. Cherry
S. Green
Plus about 40 roster invitee’s.
Most days you only need one guy then the 8-9 which is hopefully as dominate as it can be.
here is the full list, Excluding if Redding starts the year in the Pen as well:
P. Feliciano
D. Sánchez
C. Robertson
R. Cherry
S. Green
Valerio De Los Sandos
Matt DeSalvo
Casey Fossum
Tom Martin
Darren O’Day
Kyle Snyder
Jon Switzer
Problem is that one of Jerry Manuel’s weakness is trotting out every pitcher in the bullpen for match up sake
he was known for burning up the bullpen in Chicago and last year looked like a continuation of that approach
I agree that Manuel was known for that, but you can’t go by last year’s bullpen.
His Cross over guys, Sanchez (had nothing left after AS Break), Heilman had no confidence, Alaya was terrible, Muniz was terrible, Sosa was AWFUL, Matt wise was terrible, Kunz and Parnell weren’t MLB ready yet and it showed. The only halfway decent one was Stokes.
Smith (roogy) Show and Feliciano (loogy’s)
So he had to play matchups and hope and pray it would work. the OOgy’s coudn’t get out the other side of the plate to save their lives, and the Cross-over guys couldn’t get anyone out. Not much he could have done.
Well, on most days, hoepfully the starting pitcher.
Nobody has said the offense is GREAT.
The offense is fine is what everyone says. The offense was #2 in the NL in runs scored. And over the last 3 years was in the Top 5.
Offense doesn’t win games. Pitching and defense does. All the playoff teams were in the top 11 in Pitching, and 7 of the 8 were in the top 10, but only 4 of the top 10 offenses made the playoffs.
Coicidence…. i think not
Agreed. This team didn’t miss out on the playoffs because they couldn’t hit, they missed out because no one was able to finish off a game out of the pen.
The team didn’t make the playoffs because of the bullpen and no clutch hitting. The offense (or lack of) was definitely a factor.
Geez, the Mets add not one, but TWO top notch CLOSERS and this is still not enough to satisfy some. I mean when does the complaining stop?????
Never.
Look at yankee fans, 4 World series and 12 straight playoff appearances, and in the 8 years they didn’t win, they complained every day of their lives.
There are always fans who aren’t happy, and the talk show hosts (Fatty in particular) make them even worse.
Nothing wrong with being unhappy, it’s just that it seems that a lot of people are unhappy for the sake of being unhappy.
also the thing is most of us fans who are not stuck on bias also know the offense was weak down the stretch, look, if we ask for more help is not complaining or whining, is coz we don’t feel satisfied havin tatis, castillo and schneider give 3 outs all the time..
Mistermet was criticizing the bullpen though and not the offense. To a certain extent you are right, the offense kind of went in the tank at the end of the year, but that had more to do with not getting the timely hit than lack of talent. Clutch hitting is either there or it’s not. It’s not a reason to demand that wholesale changes need to be made to the team.
is not about a whole sale, but adding someone who may help take away the pressure from the hitters, not by giving the GM an extension in the middle of another collpse..
The complaining will stop once the team stops collapsing. Plain and simple.
2. Heimlich Field – Everyone can expect and prepare for the late-season choke. Safety first!
Sad but sooooooooo true.
hopefully our pitchers can pitch into the 6 or 7th
The ESPN Draft is quite funny.
Stark’s got a hell of a team going… although I keep waiting for Olney to pull the trigger on something big/expensive.
I like the Mets online bit. He should add coaches. Who knew that Rogers Hornsby, Whitey Herzog, and Bob Gibson wore Met uniforms? And I mean the real Bob Gibson, not the scrub lefty from the early 90s.
I’d have added Jeff Reardon, Orel Hershiser, Jay Bell, Ken Singleton, Amos Otis, Larry Bowa, John Candelaria, and Brett Butler as just a few more former all-star players who spent a hot minute or two in Flushing…
You’re thinking of PAUL Gibson, methinks. (He looked exactly like my Trig teacher.)
The thing about the offense isn’t that it’s bad… it’s that it’s not terribly deep.
There’s a reason that 3-4 Mets are going in the top 20 of fantasy MLB drafts… it’s because that’s from where a LOT of the Mets’ lineup’s offensive (and overall) value derives. If you check out the various calculations of WAR at places like Fangraphs (whose methodology may be flawed, but it’s still better math than I could churn out at this point), an unusually high amount of offensive worth is concentrated in those guys (and, to a much-lesser extent, Delgado).
Someone like Manny (or Dunn or Abreu), apart from making the lineup “scarier” or whatever, provides some insurance that if one of our star tripod gets knocked out (G_d forbid), we’ll still have a solid-enough O to put up above-average numbers. As it stands, we don’t… and we cross our fingers as fans.
Give me Juan Cruuuuuuuuuuz!
Wow that article on fannation was pretty hateful.
Well, that a 20 year old for you….
What’s with this:
‘You’ll notice that Yankee Stadium received a grandiose ceremony during its final game — even though the only remaining original feature of the field was a cement wall — while Shea Stadium drew some fans who sang to each other.’
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Don’t understand the Yankee reference at all and the Met reference is flat out inaccurate…..