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	<title>Comments on: News: Johan on Thursday, Pelfrey on Saturday</title>
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		<title>By: CharlieH</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/03/09/news-johan-to-start-thursday/#comment-480263</link>
		<dc:creator>CharlieH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for Johan.

First delivery should be in the environs of Hanley Ramirez&#039;s neck...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Johan.</p>
<p>First delivery should be in the environs of Hanley Ramirez&#8217;s neck&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GravediggerHebner</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/03/09/news-johan-to-start-thursday/#comment-480140</link>
		<dc:creator>GravediggerHebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, got hungry.  While I respect Ohman&#039;s work, I don&#039;t know if I&#039;d consider him enough of a sure thing to give him what he wants.  If Omar wanted him, I have to believe he would have at least made him an insulting, minor league contract/spring training invite offer, and to the best of my knowledge he hasn&#039;t even done that.

I guess my bottom line is, I don&#039;t think any team can reasonably be expected to plan and implement the plan for the worst case scenario of every aspect of their roster.  

If I understand correctly, you&#039;re concerned about the bullpen based on the way last season unfolded and therefore you want to &quot;foolproof it&quot; as best as possible.  That&#039;s fair.  

But I think subtracting Schoeneweis, Heilman and Ayala, and replacing them with Green, Putz and Rodriguez does that quite well, not only because I consider all 3 of them an upgrade, but also because it pushes the guys who remain into less critical roles, which in my opinion increases their probability for success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, got hungry.  While I respect Ohman&#8217;s work, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d consider him enough of a sure thing to give him what he wants.  If Omar wanted him, I have to believe he would have at least made him an insulting, minor league contract/spring training invite offer, and to the best of my knowledge he hasn&#8217;t even done that.</p>
<p>I guess my bottom line is, I don&#8217;t think any team can reasonably be expected to plan and implement the plan for the worst case scenario of every aspect of their roster.  </p>
<p>If I understand correctly, you&#8217;re concerned about the bullpen based on the way last season unfolded and therefore you want to &#8220;foolproof it&#8221; as best as possible.  That&#8217;s fair.  </p>
<p>But I think subtracting Schoeneweis, Heilman and Ayala, and replacing them with Green, Putz and Rodriguez does that quite well, not only because I consider all 3 of them an upgrade, but also because it pushes the guys who remain into less critical roles, which in my opinion increases their probability for success.</p>
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		<title>By: Hazmet</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/03/09/news-johan-to-start-thursday/#comment-480138</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazmet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rusty, good luck with your mates, tough business.  Many here won&#039;t be interested, but some of us are so keep us up to date as to how things go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rusty, good luck with your mates, tough business.  Many here won&#8217;t be interested, but some of us are so keep us up to date as to how things go.</p>
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		<title>By: MurphsDaMan28</title>
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		<dc:creator>MurphsDaMan28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why give up minor league talent for a more expensive and probally worse pitcher, when you can sign this guy now. If this was 2007 offseason I would agree with you maybe, but after you know whats happened, I think they could stand to add a little extra bulk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why give up minor league talent for a more expensive and probally worse pitcher, when you can sign this guy now. If this was 2007 offseason I would agree with you maybe, but after you know whats happened, I think they could stand to add a little extra bulk.</p>
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		<title>By: GravediggerHebner</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/03/09/news-johan-to-start-thursday/#comment-480133</link>
		<dc:creator>GravediggerHebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ve portrayed it fairly well in that it&#039;s a luxury.  Could they do it?  Sure.  But I think most teams use middle and long relief as a way to break pitchers into the majors, realizing that they won&#039;t be exposed a lot.  If the Mets season unfolds as you project, with the bullpen being overly taxed, this team has the resources to acquire a &quot;decent&quot; middle reliever from a team that has fallen out of contention.  No urgent need to acquire one now, when he might rot on the bench if things don&#039;t go as poorly as you suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve portrayed it fairly well in that it&#8217;s a luxury.  Could they do it?  Sure.  But I think most teams use middle and long relief as a way to break pitchers into the majors, realizing that they won&#8217;t be exposed a lot.  If the Mets season unfolds as you project, with the bullpen being overly taxed, this team has the resources to acquire a &#8220;decent&#8221; middle reliever from a team that has fallen out of contention.  No urgent need to acquire one now, when he might rot on the bench if things don&#8217;t go as poorly as you suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: MurphsDaMan28</title>
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		<dc:creator>MurphsDaMan28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But why have two unproven when you don&#039;t need to? It looks like this pen&#039;s gotta have to pitch alot of innings this year. Why not load up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But why have two unproven when you don&#8217;t need to? It looks like this pen&#8217;s gotta have to pitch alot of innings this year. Why not load up.</p>
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		<title>By: GravediggerHebner</title>
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		<dc:creator>GravediggerHebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again Wanny beat me to it.  All of the above ruckus was about Beimel.  Ohman&#039;s a better choice for the reasons Wanny mentioned.  But failing Ohman, yes I&#039;m content with 2 of the 7 bullpen pitchers being relatively unproven.  It&#039;s a major league wide phenomenon.  The Yankees spend 70 mil more than us and sport a bullpen of  Rivera, Marte, Bruney, Albaladejo, Veras, Ramirez and Robertson.  Hardly 7 sure things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again Wanny beat me to it.  All of the above ruckus was about Beimel.  Ohman&#8217;s a better choice for the reasons Wanny mentioned.  But failing Ohman, yes I&#8217;m content with 2 of the 7 bullpen pitchers being relatively unproven.  It&#8217;s a major league wide phenomenon.  The Yankees spend 70 mil more than us and sport a bullpen of  Rivera, Marte, Bruney, Albaladejo, Veras, Ramirez and Robertson.  Hardly 7 sure things.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/03/09/news-johan-to-start-thursday/#comment-480124</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree you can&#039;t build a bullpen based on 1 starter.

The reality is Mets will likely give Duaner as much time as possible to find himself and get it together.

Just hope he doesn&#039;t cost us too many games in doing so.

It&#039;s not like anyone is stepping up to challenge his roster spot at this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree you can&#8217;t build a bullpen based on 1 starter.</p>
<p>The reality is Mets will likely give Duaner as much time as possible to find himself and get it together.</p>
<p>Just hope he doesn&#8217;t cost us too many games in doing so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like anyone is stepping up to challenge his roster spot at this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Wanny2</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/03/09/news-johan-to-start-thursday/#comment-480123</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanny2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d probably take Ohman -- he&#039;s been serviceable the last couple of years v. righties too (not really his career trend, though).

What I don&#039;t want is any more specialists.  You don&#039;t need 7 relief pitchers if the ones you have are capable of pitching entire innings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d probably take Ohman &#8212; he&#8217;s been serviceable the last couple of years v. righties too (not really his career trend, though).</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t want is any more specialists.  You don&#8217;t need 7 relief pitchers if the ones you have are capable of pitching entire innings.</p>
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		<title>By: GravediggerHebner</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/03/09/news-johan-to-start-thursday/#comment-480120</link>
		<dc:creator>GravediggerHebner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to add Willie Nelson but I realized between Bob Marley and Hank Williams, you&#039;ve got Willie&#039;s input covered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to add Willie Nelson but I realized between Bob Marley and Hank Williams, you&#8217;ve got Willie&#8217;s input covered.</p>
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