Pre-Game: Mets @ Marlins – Game One

April 10, 2009 at 18:31 pm · 809 comments

by Mike Nichols

Today’s Game:

  • The Mets (2-1, 2-1 Road) begin their three-game series versus the Marlins (3-0, 3-0 Home) today in Dolphin Stadium in Miami, Florida, starting at 7:10 p.m. EDT.

On the Mound:

  • RHP John Maine (0-0, 0.00 ERA) will start for the Mets. Maine is 6-2 with a 2.36 ERA, while holding opponents to a .204 batting average in 10 career April starts. In his last start versus the Marlins on July 28, Maine received a no-decision, allowing one run on four hits and a walk, while striking out six over 4.1 IP. He is 3-1 with a 2.75 ERA in six career starts versus the Marlins, including 2-0 with a 3.22 ERA at Dolphin Stadium.
  • RHP Anibal Sanchez (0-0, 0.00 ERA) will pitch for the Marlins. He has not faced the Mets since 2007, but is 2-1 with a 3.85 ERA in three career starts, allowing three runs or less in each of those starts. Sanchez is 10-3 with a 3.32 ERA in his career at Dolphin Stadium.

At the Plate:

  1. Jose Reyes, SS
  2. Daniel Murphy, LF
  3. David Wright, 3B
  4. Carlos Delgado, 1B
  5. Carlos Beltran, CF
  6. Ryan Church, RF
  7. Brian Schneider, C
  8. Luis Castillo, 2B
  9. John Maine, P

Stats:

  • The Mets were 10-8 versus the Marlins last season, including 5-4 at Dolphin Stadium.
  • Ryan Church is 6-for-11 (.545) with 3 2B, 1 HR and 4 RBI in his career versus Sanchez.
  • Carlos Delgado has 24 homeruns in 364 career at-bats at Dolphin Stadium.
  • Hanley Ramirez is batting .188 with 1 HR in 18 career at-bats versus Maine.

Random Thoughts:

  • An earlier season showdown against the team I think will give the Mets the most problems this season.
  • Confidence. That’s all Mainer needs to be successful. He’s got the stuff, just needs to trust that he is healthy. Once he does, skies the limit.

Today’s Broadcast:

  • Today’s game will will be broadcast locally on SNY and WFAN.

In-Game Chat:

  • To chat live with fans during the game, go to the MetsBlog.com Bullpen, here; or voice your comments below.

Enjoy, and as always, Let’s Go Mets!

{ 809 comments }

Ceetar April 10, 2009 at 6:33 pm

Hotfoot Bleachers link is on the right side of my site, accessible by clicking my name.

lagranderusty10 April 10, 2009 at 6:35 pm

hey guys its time for the tgif version of “this day in mets infamy with rusty” so lets go cuz my pizzia from davinci’s is getting cold
first off b-day wishes go out to
journeyman pitcher from the early “60’s Frank Lary (1930)
Leroy “i played in “73″ Stanton (1946)
Phil “i also pitched in ‘73″ Hennigan (1946)
Transactions:
Mets drafted Mike Bruhert from the Philadelphia Phillies on April 10, 1973. yet another go nowhere deal lol

Pittsburgh Pirates signed Mike “why do we always get the wrong brother?” Maddux of the New York Mets as a free agent on April 10, 1995. and just off the wire mo vaughns comeback attept is in full swing – razor shines is trying to get the fat one motivated by hanging a ding dong on a string in front of mo while he runs on the tredmill

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 6:41 pm

mo had what doctors called a “weight problem”…

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 6:36 pm

Let’s Go Mets! Get it done tonight, Johnny.

lagranderusty10 April 10, 2009 at 6:38 pm

4decades b4 i go did u see me thankyou in my acceptance speech?? lol

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 6:46 pm

Yes, I did. Thanks. I wanted to comment but no reply option b/c I guess, was too far down in that thread…

metsfan60 April 10, 2009 at 6:36 pm

lets hope beltran hit a grand slam like he did last year

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:05 pm

THAT WAS EPIC.

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 6:36 pm

I want the Mets to come out like there and make it a blow out sometimes I think the fans are the only ones that remember how these teams talk smack about us

lagranderusty10 April 10, 2009 at 6:37 pm

hey ceetar i added yer site to my i-phone
cyas later ill be watchin the game

Ceetar April 10, 2009 at 6:46 pm

cool cool. :-D

turning pregame on right now myself.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 6:42 pm

I wonder what the Phillies team ERA and bullpen ERA are?

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 6:43 pm

i think the technical term is “stupid high”

metsfan60 April 10, 2009 at 6:46 pm

the phillies are losing 10-3 against the rockies

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 6:50 pm

Game is over. They just don’t got it. I heard Cole was averaging like 5 mph below his speed. For their sake, they should probably put him in extended spring training to build up his arm strength, but knowing them, they’ll be stupid and prove Verducci right.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 6:52 pm

Let’s fry these fish now. It’d be nice to get out to a good start in this series… We gotta get on Sanchez early.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 6:54 pm

just to put something out there if we ever want another catcher; Kengi Johjima would be a nice fit

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 6:57 pm

Maybe, but he only hit .227 last season. I don’t think he’ll leave the M’s though. I think he’s getting paid like 8 mill a year too.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 6:58 pm

It was an off year for him, good defensively, good at calling the game and in 07 he had a good offensive year. So I would like him here

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 6:59 pm

If he could back to where he was in ‘06 and ‘07 though, he’d be a great upgrade to Schneider. I’m not sure who they’ll go for with Schneider and Castro are free agents, but I’m hoping it’s Ramon Hernandez or Bengie Molina. They’re real offensive threats and right-handed bats that help balance our line-up.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 6:59 pm

I would take Bengi in a second

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 6:55 pm

I think there’s no reason why we shouldn’t win 2 out of 3 in this series. I feel great about our chances of winning with Johan, so Sunday’s gotta be a win. I don’t wanna see Sheffield in there either, with the way Ryan’s hitting the ball. No need to let Tatis pinch hit for him either. People are going out saying the Marlins started out so ”hot”, yet forgot to remember it was the 102 loss Nats they were going up against.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 6:57 pm

but they crush fastballs and thats what Maine throws… all the time

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:00 pm

I know, but it’s all about if John hits his spots. If we can get 6 IP, with 2 or 3 ER, out of him tonight, I’m pretty happy. We need to hit to win this game though, because we can’t expect perfection out of Maine to start.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:02 pm

Anibal Sanchez is no pushover though

reillys5 April 10, 2009 at 6:55 pm

lets go john what do you got for us tonight

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:01 pm

if anyone is wondering my nickname doesnt mean I’ve been a Met fan for 46 years. No it means Metsfanfor6years, and a coincedence that my first name is 4 letters, and my last name 6 letters.

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:24 pm

Considering my first Mets game was when I was 5, and most fans start that young as fandom is pa.s.sed down from generation to generation…does that mean you are 11?

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:31 pm

12 in a month very nice

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm

Good for you kid!

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:38 pm

thanks

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:03 pm

I’m hoping I don’t get Marlins announcers on MLB.tv tonight lol

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:04 pm

what where do you live then?

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:16 pm

I live in New Jersey, about 25 minutes from Philly, in Burlington county lol Believe me, it’s the worst place on earth for a Mets fan to live.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:27 pm

Come on John… It’s alright, we’ll get it back.

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:04 pm

You get your choice on MLB.tv….but are stuck with the horrid FL announcers on Extra Innings. I put the Extra Innings on my TV, mute it, and keep my laptop on with the SNY feed.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:07 pm

listen to WFAN on the radio

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:12 pm

WFAN’s signal is strong – but it isn’t reaching across the continent! I could get their feed on MLB.audio, but I prefer some Gary and Keith over any Wayne “Disingenuous, Generic Play-by-Play Guy” Hagin.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:11 pm

How do you choose?

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:13 pm

I know I could put on WFAN, if I could find it . I looked for it on the link the last couple nights, and the only one they had for the Mets was in Spanish. I remember having it on Direct TV, and yeah, you would be screwed lol

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:14 pm

Go to mlb.tv, go to current subscribers (top of screen), sign in, then they have a chart with all the games and all the feeds available for each game. Find the game – look to the right, click on “SNY-HD” blue link.

I’m watching it now.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:11 pm

I guess I didn’t wish hard enough lol

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:17 pm

Your problem may be you do not have the MLB.tv premium, which allows choice of multiple TV feeds. MLB.tv regular does not. Should have spent the extra 30 bucks!

That said, mlb.tv should have the WFAN feed. It certainly used to always be available. And, it is available to me under my MLB>tv premium subscription.

I feel for you, man, the FL announcers are bush league.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:26 pm

I don’t have premium. I’ll look for the WFAN feed. It’s not really other announcers that I get mad about. It’s nice to have some variety. Like you said though, these Marlins announcers are ughhh. It’s as bad as having hear Harry Kalas saying adda here lol But sometimes they don’t give you a variety…

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:26 pm

At least ”Hammer” isn’t a Marlin this season

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:05 pm

I hope bxmetsfan wasn’t watching Keith just say that division rivals should not like each other. He’ll be demanding a public showdown with Mex!

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm

Gip you know there is a difference in between the METS hating the MARLINS and Reyes hating Hanley.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:10 pm

Marlins hate Reyes

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 7:11 pm

That must make HANLEY and REYES relationship difficult. Again, it’s team vs team when they are on the field.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:09 pm

The whole division hates Jose.

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:19 pm

True enough. But bxmetsfan’s point was broader. Or, was his point that he wanted some attention from cerrone?

Mets5rocks April 10, 2009 at 7:05 pm

LETS GO METS!, LET’S GO METS!! , LET’S GO METS!!!!

CitizenSnips April 10, 2009 at 7:05 pm

Gary was saying the Marlins absolutely hate the Mets. Why? There is no reason for there ever to be that much hatred even if they are division rivals. Is it because no one else cares about them enough to create a proper rivalry?

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:15 pm

the mets draw more fans in south florida than they do. that would make any team mad, let alone a team in their own division

CitizenSnips April 10, 2009 at 7:21 pm

Hardly the Mets fault. That have horrible fans.

CitizenSnips April 10, 2009 at 7:22 pm

They*

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

dang…

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

sorry, didn’t mean to reply there

Mets5rocks April 10, 2009 at 7:13 pm

mURPHY!!!!!

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:16 pm

wow delgado swingin for the fences there

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:19 pm

is anybody watching the end of this cubs game. kevin gregg is about to lose his job (again)

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 7:22 pm

Letting Kerry Wood walk is going to turn out costly for the Cubs

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:23 pm

you are not kidding there. even naming gregg over marmol was a bad decision. he couldn’t handle the pressure in south florida, how is he going to handle it in chicago?

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 7:29 pm

Cubs lost .

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:23 pm

SNY not showing the radar gun speed? Wonder why not.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:27 pm

no there not, but gary is tellin us how fast hes throwin, right now hes at 92-93 which is great

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

Gary just noted a 93 mph FB by Maine.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:27 pm

Oh shyt.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:27 pm

93 mph both is reporting for Maine’s fastball.

Looking good until that HR.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

*booth

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

I think I jinxed us.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

I hate Hanley Ramirez

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:29 pm

You mean Hanley “The Don” Ramirez?

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

That HR is Schneider’s fault.

He has to be the worst game caller ever.

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

Ouch. I don’t care if Jose loves the guy… I loathe him.

swirlywand April 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm

did Keith JUST jinx John Maine!??!!? he and gary falling all over themselves about how amazing John Maine looks….ha! Early in the game y’all….LET’S GO METS!
Even down a run, I FREAKING HAVE MISSED BASEBALL SO MUCH!
Let’s DO IT

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:31 pm

Yes, I am sure Maine heard Gary and Keth, who are like 2 stories up in a press box. Of all the silliness on ths blog, announcer jinx discussions have to take the cake.

swirlywand April 10, 2009 at 7:58 pm

It’s better than thinking that John Maine has taken on the persona of a National or something…

aren’t we supposed to have fun on here? or are all just undiscovered commentators and sports writers who have to be so serious all the time!
geez.
:-)

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:29 pm

hanley thrives himself to do good against the mets

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:29 pm

well, at least we can say no-hitter now

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:30 pm

Johnny Cakes is gonna shut the (back)door on them for the next 6 innings.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:32 pm

Damn I hate and love Hanley at the same time he is just such a great talent

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:33 pm

Unfortunately, he provides his great talent to support the forces of evil.

JohanItOver April 10, 2009 at 7:32 pm

brush it off Johnny, lets get at em

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:32 pm

Nasty movement on Sanchez’s fast ball to strike out Bel-TRAN

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 7:32 pm

Looks like they won’t be able to hit this guy tonight

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:32 pm

damn florida is gettin every call so far, i though that 1-2 pitch to hanley was strike 3

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:34 pm

Schneider didn’t hit it THAT good. Got it off the hands a little.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:34 pm

how bout we see church steal here

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm

Noooooooo. Concusion risk.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm

lol, but u like to see castillo with a 2 out rbi chance

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 7:39 pm

Lets hope the 2nd time around we be able to hit this guy

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

Oye.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

WOW after johan are pitchin is really sown hill

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

down*

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:43 pm

our*

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:45 pm

pitching*

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 7:47 pm

Maybe his key board buttons are not working right

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

Sigh…..

JohanItOver April 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

wow

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 7:40 pm

Ok so its turning out to be one of them games

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 7:41 pm

Another gopherball…

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:41 pm

As usual, Omar addressed the previous year’s issue only, and failed to anticipate this year’s problem. This rotation will be our downfall!

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 7:43 pm

It’s Game 4 of the season. It may turn out to be a problem, but don’t you think it’s a tad early to be forecasting doom?

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:47 pm

As a Mets fan, it is NEVER to early to prepare for the inevitable. And yet, we all manage to fool ourselves into private, deep-down optimism.

JohanItOver April 10, 2009 at 7:49 pm

wow… its only 4 GAMES INTO THE SEASON!!!

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:52 pm

JohanItOver,

And only 23 YEARS SINCE WE GOT IT DONE! :-)

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 7:50 pm

Let me put some perspective: the Phillies best pitching performance this season was the 3 HR, 4 ER outing by Brett Myers. Do you think they’re doomed???

It’s way too early. Give it a month, and if it’s still bad, then we have a problem..

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 7:49 pm

No. I think Gipper is right on. The sad part is that it wasn’t like there was nobody available.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm

Of course you do. You are the epitome of a pessimist.

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:53 pm

Dude, you eat people’s brains! Pessimism seems like a small fault in comparison. :-)

killerkill April 10, 2009 at 7:42 pm

Damn that was a Bomb.

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 7:42 pm

Man the Mets are looking like a .500 team again. I’m not going to call them that yet, but the pitching has got to get ALOT better.

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 7:44 pm

We’re dead.

I hope we get a rainout Sunday, so at least I can see Johan pitch the opener.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:47 pm

2 innings in, let’s see what the offense can do before we declare this game a loss.

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 7:48 pm

I meant overall.

We only have one pitcher.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm

Dumb, dumb, dumb

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 7:52 pm

Regardless, if the Mets want to win a ws, i’m not talking making hte playoffs, i’m not talking going .500, they need to aquire another dominate starter.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:52 pm

what? Pelfry got it done, Livan hasn’t even pitched yet. How can you make a statement like that this early?

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm

The Cubs have Zambrano, Harden, Dempster and might eventually aquire Peavy, the Mets are gonna need at least one more guy to compete with that.

JohanItOver April 10, 2009 at 7:54 pm

Thats even worse…your predicting doom 4 games into the season? After seeing a pitcher 2 innings into the season after shoulder surgery??

Maine will be fine…his velocity is good and location not bad, except for two pitches

lets hold off on ending the season early until we play a few more games

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 7:59 pm

I’m not predicting anything. I’m just saying that they don’t have a championship caliber pitching staff, which they don’t. And if they do, pitchers are gonna have to have career seasons.

Mets5rocks April 10, 2009 at 7:49 pm

Relax guys it’s only the 3rd inning!

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm

Speaking of the opener. Who’s going ?. Is there some sort of gathering planned for the people that post here ?.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:52 pm

The rotation won’t be a weakness this season. Ollie’s inconsistentcy will be a concern, but Pelfrey and Maine will come along. Just give them time. It’s been one way around. Look at the Phillies. What did Amaro do to address it? Chan Ho Park? Come on. At least our ace is looking good. There isn’t one pitcher on their staff who’s looking good. If John can give us 3 ER in 6 IP tonight, I’ll be happy. But if we only score one run to that point, I’ll have a problem with that. These hitters aren’t pushing themselves hard enough to score runs early. Get on base, move runners, be patient and don’t swing for the fence, and we’ll be fine.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:53 pm

there ya go reyes! way to work the count.

had to step away to put the kid to bed, did maine get nailed? (by a line drive i mean)

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm

Ricocheted off his shin so hard it is amazing he is walking!

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm

ouch…thanks

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm

Yes, on the lower left shin.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:53 pm

Yes, Jake Peavy or Roy Halladay would really put us ahead of the bunch in the NL. We’re right there with everyone, but you could imagine how fierce we’d be. There’s other parts of our roster that may eventually need to be addressed too, but you can never have enough starting pitching.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:54 pm

murphy has to take a couple of pitches to let reyes run

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:54 pm

I see the radar gun is showing now on the top graphic.

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm

Given that Gary and Keith were saying the speed of Maine’s pitches, I am sure it was a technical glitch – not some sort of conspiracy!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm

Maine’s fine. A ball hit him in the shin. If there’s a problem, it didn’t knock him out of the game or we didn’t hear about it. There probably will be a bruise, but it shouldn’t be anything to be that concerning. We got lucky there, considering what happened to the Giants pitcher.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm

I guess I do have premium lol Just found it. Go the Mets announcers…

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:55 pm

wright has to start going the other way with those outside fastballs

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 8:00 pm

i am for real! he’s trying to pull everything and missing by alot! even if he hits those, it certainly won’t be well struck. get it together!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm

Come on, Sanchez is good, but he’s not that good. I’m starting to get sick of watching these Wright at bats

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm

damn if you want to think positve here is the Mets rotation best and worst
Johan Best: 22W-4L 2.45 E.R.A 245 Inn
Worst: 15W-10 3.15 E.R.A 205 Inn
Pelf Best: 18W-9L 3.35 E.R.A 210 Inn
Worst: 12W-10L 3.95 E.R.A 185 Inn
Maine Best: 15W-10L 3.65 E.R.A 195 Inn
Worst: 12W-12L 4.35 E.R.A 175 Inn
Perez Best: 15W-10L 3.95 E.R.A 185Inn
Worst: 10W-12L 4.75 E.R.A 160Inn
Livan Best: 13W-10L 4.00 E.R.A 225Inn
Worst: 10W-10L 4.65 E.R.A 205 Inn
Accurate?

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 7:57 pm

No not accurate at wall. Pelfrey had 1 good half of a season. I WANT HIM TO SUCEED. I HOPE HE SUCEEDS. But how can your worst case scenario be an era. he has never even acheived yet. Perez has got alot of work ahead of him.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:59 pm

For the whole season I think the numbers for each pitcher will be between the numbers I gave

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:01 pm

Any other opinions?

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm

Can they send a damned runner! Worst case scenario D-wright leads off the next inning. C’mon grow a pair.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm

wright is gettin me upset and its only the 4th game this year

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:57 pm

ugh…two backward k’s for wright….not a good start

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 7:58 pm

What else is new with Wright he really need to get his head out of his a$$

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 7:59 pm

he’s a slow starter… this is 3 years in a row. give him time, he’ll get hot.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 7:57 pm

Wright is starting to sicken me freakin SWING!

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 7:58 pm

Didn’t Wright have a slow April last year? In fact, I don’t think anyone but Church was hitting for average going into May.
Here’s hoping we don’t see a repeat of that…..

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:01 pm

yup. 3 years in a row for wright….i think he’s just a slow starter

on a more positive note, castillo looks a lot better out there

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:02 pm

good to see you’re back for another season btw

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:04 pm

you too! Love debating Met baseball with you all.

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 8:03 pm

Metsfan, you are on to something, I’m the worlds worst about doom and gloom and I suppose misery loves company so that’s why I like it on here. But this is game 4 of the season, it’s a bit early to start lamenting the rotation, starting in on David Wright’s swingning and how he’s “un-clutch”, and how we should all just give up, give the Marlins the eastern division title, not even bother going to New York and opening Citi Field.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:05 pm

You addressing me? If so, I think you’ve got me confused with another poster. You’ll never see me giving up.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm

if you look at my post I expect alot more from the rotation than a lot of other people. And wright is taking way too many strikes for strikeouts. I have the Mets winning 102 games this year. But if Wright doesnt step up… I dont know. And if perez’s otingdoesnt worry you i dont know what will. LETS GO Mets for christs sake

WrightsRight April 10, 2009 at 8:00 pm

If they outlawed the home run, Marlins would be 0-162.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:01 pm

LOL – especially with that defense they’ve had the past few years.
Love the name….

WrightsRight April 10, 2009 at 8:03 pm

i just got home, saw it was 2-0 and I absolutely knew they scored the runs with a home run. that’s all they do. they’re too dumb to run the bases correctly and they can’t field. they just hit home runs.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:07 pm

The Marlins look like tehy’re going to have a big year. With Philly still on their honeymoon, don’t be shocked if the biggest threat this year is Florida.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:19 pm

Actually, I thought before the season started our biggest competition would be Florida.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:01 pm

honeslty maine looks good, he just made to mistakes leaving fat ones over the plate

JohanItOver April 10, 2009 at 8:01 pm

agreed

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 8:05 pm

Even if this one doesn’t work out, it is only game 4. John Maine does look strong after his operation and I think he will get better as the season goes along. Like I said during the second game, let’s not start hanging ourselves yet.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:02 pm

I just don’t get how Reyes doesn’t get the green luight there, and if he did why he didn’t try to take second. To me, its a no brainer. I don’t know this guy Baker too well, but I don’t think he’s got an amazing arm.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:03 pm

DEAR LORD I JUST TURNED THE GAME ON HOW ARE WE DOWN BY TWO ALREADY?

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:04 pm

homers by hanley an uggla

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:07 pm

OH PURE S U CKAGE.

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:04 pm

SCHNEIDER ……………..

UGH

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:05 pm

the godfather was looking to go yard there again…

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 8:06 pm

Can we score off of this guy or are we going to make him look like CY

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:06 pm

cmon lets get some runs now-LETS GET ITT

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:08 pm

how bout a 2 run homer beltran

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm

RALLY !

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm

i realize keith just said this, but why are the marlins holding delgado on first?

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:10 pm

OO! thats brutal, why swing at that pitch.

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:11 pm

Baker got clocked

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:11 pm

We HAVE to score when ya have a dude in scoring position zero out you HAVE to do it.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:11 pm

Ouch.
And I’ve noticed that too. So many hitters swinging around and letting go with one hand. Never used to see that.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:12 pm

Church has been hot hopefully he gets it done here

JohanItOver April 10, 2009 at 8:12 pm

Keep fightin Church

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:13 pm

awww

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm

ughhh u have to do sumtin there church

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 8:14 pm

C’mon Chruchie!

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

Dang

JohanItOver April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

you got do something Churchy..

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

i’m pretty sure everything distracts keiths concentration

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

HAHAHA.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

Please get at least one in.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

i know u love to see church swing away, but u think he should have maybe tried an bunted for a hit?

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

The bottom of the order is a black hole.

Nothing ever comes out.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

SHYT

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:15 pm

i hate schneider

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

Schneider, castillo, pitcher in a row is a joke.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

Come on Castillo… Give us a single, we need it

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

u gotta be kidding

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:18 pm

god no clutch today. 3 staight innings 2 out grounders to hanley sheesh

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm

If we lose this game, we better win the series.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

typical mets i hate this

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm

Well, damn..

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm

We really do have a weak bottom of the order. I just don’t see how this combination is going to hold. At least Schneider got a big hit the other night. For coming off a good spring, Castillo sure hasn’t gotten off to a hot start and Mets fans are going to give it to him if this is how he hits at Citi.

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm

I understand this is only game 4 but this team is playing the same way we ended the 07 and 08 season you fig after the way those 2 yrs ended they would want to start this yr on fire

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:17 pm

Ooooooo, there’s that hottie in the Firestone commercial!

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:21 pm

I keep missing that.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:51 pm

Thankfully, I’ve always seen it. Oh … oh … oh, oh. yesss, yes!

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:18 pm

ugh…. bottom of the order…

i will say that i am liking the looks of castillo though. once he gets comfortable at the plate, i think he’s going to to do well. he seems like a completely different player this year

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:19 pm

I don’t get that impression for a second. Castillo simply cannot hit.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:21 pm

So far he’s looked far better in the field but his hitting so far is suspect.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:24 pm

no you’re right about the hitting. i wasn’t specific enough. i really like the way he looks in the field, which has always been his strong suit. i feel like since he’s nearly back to where he’s used to being in the field, his hitting should follow. i’m not saying he’s an all star, i’m just saying he looks better.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:20 pm

I guess… I mean, I feel better than last season with him, because he came in trying harder. He looks like he wants to be here more. He’s fielding his position well. He’s gotta hit the ball though… Otherwise, it’s not going to be pretty.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm

Listen, he doesn’t strike out much, he takes long counts. The problem is he just doesn’t get hits. No power, he’s not as fast as he used to be, he’s just not good enough to get hits.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:19 pm

Church is hitting the ball, so bunting over doesn’t make sense… If it were later in the game and a one run game, and we still weren’t hitting, I could have seen doing that though and bringing in a pinch hitter for one of Schneider and Castillo. What I want to see is Tatis play some second base, so we get a better bat in there.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm

Murphy at 2nd Castro at plate, And Sheff/Tatis in left is what everyone is saying I guess. I personaly have no problem with schneids/castillo

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm

There’s no reason for Church or Murphy not to start. Now, if people were suggesting Murphy at 2B more, with Sheffield in LF, I’d think that’s more intriguing. Tatis at 2B, for Castillo, against lefties works too. The problem with Cora, who’s weak hitting, is he’s also lefty. In a way, it would have been more useful to bring Damion Easley back instead of signing Gary, holding onto three 2B, using him against lefties. People forget that he actually was pretty productive last season. The problem was his body gave out, right when the Mets did, two straight seasons.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:28 pm

can we keep the lineup the way it is. Our bench gives us good problems. But i was always a huge Easley fan

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm

Agree 100%.

We need a bat in place of Castillo.

I say when Schneider catches, play Tatis or Cora, and when Castro catches then play Castillo.

At least it will be balanced that way.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:24 pm

You dont agree with me I want Castillo and brian to start

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:24 pm

I just don’t understand why the mets didn’t start putting Murphy at second for the entire spring training and winter ball. You don’t get many offesnively productive 2b’s in the game, and to get a young talented one entering the beggining of his career is such a huge bonus.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:26 pm

they tried that in winter ball… and he got hurt. Here’s what they didnt do….. ORLANDO HUDSON! would have been a perfect fit but I would still give Louie a 2nd chance

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:28 pm

Yeah, and the deal the dodgers got him for was a steal. The mets pretty muched payed the same price for cora.

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 8:27 pm

The guy has trouble with fly balls in the OF, how is he gonna deal with turning DPs, covering the bag on throws, etc, etc? Middle infield is much harder than playing LF, and he doesn’t do that very well.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:29 pm

does anybody read what I write! the lineup is fine the way it is!

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:19 pm

if maine can hold it, i think we will come back an win

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:21 pm

It looks like Jose Reyes is growing his hair longer lol

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:21 pm

nice play reyes

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:22 pm

Yeah, I mean, as long as John can give us more innings like the third, we’ll be alright. We got a good bullpen. In my opinion though, we have to get Sanchez out of this game at least being tied though to have a good shot at winning this game…

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:23 pm

yea i think the 5th inning is the time to get to him, the third time around the order lets score multiply runs boys

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:23 pm

Nice, Daniel.
He’s smart enough not to try that forward dive Tatis did which ended his season. He’s not any gold glover by any means but you can tell he’s been working on that defense out there.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm

you’re not kidding. he looked downright comical at points last year.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:23 pm

OMG THATS THE EXACT DREAM I HAD OF MURPHY THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE SLID IN JUST LIKE THAT AND THEN BOOM A SHIN INJURY.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:24 pm

Now will you please get John some runs.

DonHahn1 April 10, 2009 at 8:25 pm

Here we go, let’s get a little rally going!!!

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:28 pm

ok can murphy please take some pitches for reyes

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:28 pm

Now steal freaking 2B. Danny is due to give us a nice single up the middle or the other way.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:29 pm

STEAL THE BASE! murphy goes oppo well, try a hit and run or something. but force the issue

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm

steal jose steal

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:30 pm

Can they send Reyes already

Metfreak April 10, 2009 at 8:31 pm

Sounds like more Marlin fans then Met fans

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:32 pm

Reyes is so fast that even with the worst of jumps, it will still take a verygood throw to get him.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm

gary – ‘another Daniel Murphy marathon’…

And who is that guy hacking that sounds like a dolphin????

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:33 pm

jose is deff goin now

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:34 pm

david please get a hit please

Gasface77 April 10, 2009 at 8:34 pm

I love Murphy. Didn’t come through, but he always battles and has good at bats. This one is not on the offense, Sanchez is just on tonight.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:35 pm

and thats why you steal bases.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:35 pm

Rally monkey time! come on 3run shot Delgado! come on!

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:35 pm

nice hit dwright, but if jose had stolen during murphy abat maybe its a 2-1 game

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:35 pm

Very nice, DWright.
Let’s go Carlos.

Sanchez approaching mid 90 pitch count. At least we won’t have to face Rhodes coming in. I swear we just cannot hit him.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:36 pm

CMON CARLOS HIT A BOMB

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:36 pm

he keeps goin inside eventually one will be over the plate an in the stands

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm

carlos that was down the plate omg

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm

hes gonna throw a ball right here

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm

NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:38 pm

wow just wow

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm

Here we go clutch hit, here we go….. NOT!

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm

this is bad Y CANT WE HIT THIS GUY WTFFFFFFFFF

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm

You just made sanchez look like Santana there carlos. He had 2 pitches to park in the upper deck and missed them both

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 8:42 pm

exactly! i see hitting with RISP will be our forte again this year

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm

but a 158 games left not including this one but every day theres been a problem
Day1: No offense
Day2:Shaky Pelf and bullpen
Day3:Perez
Day4:No clutch
Day5?

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

couple things:

1. you know more about baseball than any other 12 year old i know…good on ya kid

2. you’re absolutely right about the problems. i know nobody wants to hear this, but it is still pretty early. they’re still working out the kinks and hopefully things will get better

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:39 pm

Just screw thru its arsehole

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:40 pm

dang dang dang

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 8:40 pm

Ugh

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:40 pm

There you go, thats what you get when you’re afraid to push the envelope. Had Reyes have stole, which he had 10 chances o do before murphy popped out, that single would have drove him in. You can’t be afraid to score runs.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 8:41 pm

Boy, I really do hate the Marlins telecast…., they’ll be drooling over that pitch for the rest of the night….

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:41 pm

That was pathetic Carlos cannot do that again

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:42 pm

That KL15 said im negative but really what the hell is up with our bats?

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 8:44 pm

Maine should learn how to throw a solid changeup. With Johan around he should be able to pick up a few pointers.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:44 pm

Maine has been doing well but now we need to get our bats going

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm

I remember saying back in the 2nd and 3rd that John would be alright and that the starting pitching isn’t the problem. I said if he could give us 6 IP, with 2 or 3 ER, he’s done his job. These hitter’s just aren’t holding up to their end of the bargain though. Does anyone know what Sanchez’s pitch count is? I know Danny helped run it up.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:46 pm

95

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:47 pm

Ok, good. Finally. We need to get hitting on their bullpen.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:48 pm

God do the mets need a single

Gasface77 April 10, 2009 at 8:45 pm

This performance by Maine is definitely a positive after the surgery and the spring training he had. Looks sharp at least….just got no run support.

…and on another note, the Marlins look like a good team. Real good pitching and a scrappy lineup.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:46 pm

nice inning johnn

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:46 pm

I know hes had a good start

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:47 pm

Agreed. Overall, hasn’t been too bad. Just those two solo HRs. Not like he gave up a ton of hits or walks. Glad to see this.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

I want it all!
And I want it now!
CARLOS Baby!
He got every bit of it!
YES!YES!

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

YEAH BABY !

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

( I mean Beltran )

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

Gone Goodbye!!
Beltran – woo-hoo !!!!!!!!!!!!

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

This pitchers is trash! this should be run city.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

HOORAY

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

Now that’s what I’m talking about. Beltran’s on a nice roll.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 8:49 pm

Damn!!!!!!, ok, lets build on this guys….

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm

Come on Ryan. Get on base and let’s get this thing going.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm

CHURH HAS BEEN EN FUEGO

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm

BELTRAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

gipper82475 April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm

Alright…one at a time.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm

I want it all!
And I want it now!
Deja vu? nice hit churchie! ok rally monkey time!

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:52 pm

Long season – you’d better pace yourself. Lol.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:52 pm

Whats Deja vu?

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm

Thanks for listen Mr. Church… Now let’s keep moving with this. I’d bring in Tatis for Castillo.

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:50 pm

Did I mention I hate Schneider ?.

Come on dude, prove me wrong.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:51 pm

clearly not.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:51 pm

Good small ball

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:52 pm

Do you not see who’s coming up now? bad baseball

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:51 pm

Interesting bunting there. And not that great of a bunt either but he went for the sure out at first.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:51 pm

We need to get this run in.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:51 pm

Why leave Louie there? Come on. I’d put in Tatis, bring in Cora for defense.

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:52 pm

Castillo has pop from the right side

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm

More lke Pop-Up….

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:52 pm

Castillo’s having so many opportunities to slap in runs… Come on. Just do it already.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm

come on Louie!
Now if Maine hits do you unleash Sheff?

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm

Bring out the Sheff !

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm

I’ll take 500 here, Mr. Sheffield….

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm

Maine’s being taken out?? How many pitches did he throw?

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm

Don’t know what his pitch count is. Obviously, they’re going for the tying run here.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm

LOL.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm

So when does the castillo watch begin?

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm

Stop. Please. It’s much too early to even bring that up.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:01 pm

Yes i know, But I wanted to be the first to ask…. ha-ha…

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm

Around 10:30 tonight.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:58 pm

Soon. Probably his first at bat at Citi.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm

SHEFF!!!!!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm

Well, Castillo can’t come through. Not much of a suprise. Not sure why they just didn’t bring in Sheffield to hit for him… Oh well. I’d love to see Sheff get a hit

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 8:54 pm

LGM

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm

Wow, I had not seen Sheff. He is fat.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm

Right!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:55 pm

Throwing around Sheff? Come on Gary, prove you deserve playing time

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm

Is that a gut I see on Sheffield?

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm

I guess they didn’t want history being made off of them. Make them pay for it Jose.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm

If the Marlisn were smart, they’d build their new stadium with a 5,000 person capacity, so maybe it could look somewhat full for a change.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:57 pm

LOL.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm

Seriously, someone please explain to me how the marlins possibly can afford to keep their franchise running.

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm

2 ABs no swings for Sheffield.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm

He can’t get the bat around his stomach.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:56 pm

wow. rather pitch to Reyes?

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Good point.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm

Yeah, and it looks like that was the better call for them.
Gary – ‘Mets have had men on base every inning this game.’
Mets ALWAYS have men on base. I’ve never bothered to look up the stats but if I did, I’ll be for the last 40 years, they’re right up there with highest number of men LOB. Getting them on, no problem, getting them around to home……

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 8:58 pm

I guess so

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:57 pm

This pitcher reminds me of Ollie

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Ok, maybe not, Perez probably wouldn’t have gotten out of it lol It’s only a one run game now… Now it’s a battle of the pens

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm

lob…story of the mets

reillys5 April 10, 2009 at 8:59 pm

the guy just threw 5 straight balls…not one of them were close, and he doesnt take a pitch? come on reyes ur smarter than that bro damnit

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 9:00 pm

Well…….I may be dreaming here, but I really think things are going to be OK for this year. Even if this game does end in a loss. So far, and it’s just so far, I really like this teams play. Personally I do think the team is MUCH better than last year’s.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 9:02 pm

I would like some hits with runners on base

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm

right down the goddamned middle! why would you not throw that breaking ball that Cantu looked absolutely dumbfounded on. cmon!

fxcarden April 10, 2009 at 9:00 pm

On a serious note, the report just came thru, the dude driving the van that killed that young pitcher was charged with drunk drvinig and murder.

I hope he rots in hell.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 9:03 pm

Me too

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:03 pm

bac was >.24… both him and his victim were 22 years old… stupid stupid stupid

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:04 pm

I agree, damn coward… unfortunately that kind of crap happens to often in California….

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:01 pm

y is reyes swinging so early in the count when this guy just threw 4 straight balls ughh work the count jose

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 9:07 pm

reyes is still very baseball dumb, unfortunately. he never sees ABs in context. each pitch is total independent of anything going on in the game. as far as he’s concerned, it’s always batting practice.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 9:01 pm

so at this rate the pen’s collective arm should fall off about when? mid may? maine looked pretty good, only 83 pitches. dumb to take him out when we were already into their pen with >3 innings to go.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:05 pm

manuel told them they were gonna get worked hard these first 2 weeks. he didn’t want any of the starters to go long.

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 9:06 pm

Are you kidding me?!?! The guy is coming back off of shoulder surgery. I wouldn’t work him too hard early on. Or his arm will fall off and then you DO have a problem. I think he’ll get a couple complete games in the second half of the season.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm

so all “shoulder surgery” is the same, eh doc? as a surgeon, i understand he had arthroscopic (minimally invasive) surgery to remove a spur from within the socket. there was NO structural compromise or repair. this was a symptomatic procedure, not reconstructive. unless you’re jimmy andrews, thanks for your uninformed thoughts. all that is to say, his shoulder was in no danger of falling off and (at least medically) could’ve thrown another inning.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:03 pm

I have to say, I think Johnny Cakes did a great job tonight. He had excellent stuff and he seemed to trust it (maybe a little too much). Still only 2 hits and 2 runs, 1 BB and 5 Ks in 5 innings is a step in the right direction. Definitely.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 9:04 pm

agreed. but why do we call him Johnny Cakes?

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:06 pm

its from the sopranos.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:07 pm

I went from John Maine to Johnny Maine … Boomer calls him “Johnny Maine” and I just naturally call him “Johnny. ” I guess it’s his boyish looks. And the Sopranos had the character “johnny Cakes” with Vito …. remember??? Did you watch The Sopranos?

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:04 pm

Absolutely. I didn’t think they would leave him out there too long given it was his first start. Not to mention Jerry playing the odds, going for the PH and the tying run.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:05 pm

ughhhh cmon sean dont let that runner score

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:07 pm

Crap.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:08 pm

Shyt. One out.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:08 pm

Come on, Green. You can get this done. DP ball here, please, Another grounder to short would be nice.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm

They giveth, and taketh away…. great….

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm

right down the goddamned middle! why would you not throw that breaking ball that Cantu looked absolutely dumbfounded on. cmon!!

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:10 pm

Oh for the love of….
What’s up Green? You looked good in ST.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 9:11 pm

It was really, really, really dumb to take Maine out so early.

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 9:11 pm

agreed.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:11 pm

yeah going for the tying run is so dumb.

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 9:12 pm

it was still early, plenty of time to make up 1 run.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 9:13 pm

When your previous 3 starters haven’t gone 6 innings, your SP has only thrown 83 pitches, and it’s a 1 run game, it’s a dumb move

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:14 pm

the dumb move was schneider giving up an out against one of the worst pitchers out there.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:12 pm

Tough call, Sylar. Hindsight is always 20/20.
Jerry was going for that tying run at the time.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:13 pm

You have a lefty throwing meatballs and a very dangerous right handed bat on the bench with a single tying the game. Maine is good for maybe 1 more inning. You gotta go for the run.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:14 pm

Agree.

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 9:13 pm

yes but it was only the 6th inning and Maine had only thrown 83 pitches

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:15 pm

he’s coming off surgery in his first start since august. He’s going 85 tops. you’re going to give up a run for 1 more inning at the best. you gotta go for the run.

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

i meant to say 95.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:12 pm

dang…right down the middle

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

It seems like this guy needs some time with Warthen… good stuf just always placed in a good spot…. he’s like thisclose……

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm

Meant “just not always placed” in a good spot…

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:13 pm

what was maines pitch count

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 9:14 pm

83

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:14 pm

If Luis Castillo could do more with his bat than John Maine, maybe Jerry wouldn’t be put in such crappy decisions.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:15 pm

what i meant to say was crappy/tough situations. i mean, you want to leave maine in, but you want to drive in the run. i don’t know if he had that they’d walk gary in the back of his mind though, but if he did, it was a good strategy, because jose’s who you want up

clemmy April 10, 2009 at 9:15 pm

oh boy

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

At what point do you have Parnell get up?

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

Now.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

as soon as the bases got juiced

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

the audio on mlbtv is TERRIBLE…

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:21 pm

Watching the marlins telecast on the MLB extra innings is not that great either…,

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

Come on, come on, come on.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:16 pm

83? that’s it? maybe they were cautious. not sure. i’m not happy with what i’m seeing from sean though

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:19 pm

Yeah,he seems to be right there…., maybe a little more control….

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm

O.K. – could have been worse.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm

yea but y is he throwin a fastball to cantu?? should have stuck with the breakin stuff

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm

I do like Sean Green’s stuff, though. Reminds me of Roger McDowell a little.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:17 pm

cody ross still looks like a fraggle rock doozer

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:18 pm

Ha – is that some kiddie cartoon reference? No kids here so I’m out of touch….

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:20 pm

yah….it was an acid induced muppet spinoff in the late 70’s and early 80’s

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:21 pm

LOL- ‘acid induced Muppet spinoff’….

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:23 pm

look it up on youtube…you will be amazed…specifically look for the doozers you’ll see cody ross

MurphsDaMan28 April 10, 2009 at 9:18 pm

and you just know the mets will get 1 more run and leave a guy on this inning.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:18 pm

It’s only a two run game. We just need one inning to break it out. Get the runners on, and get some hits… Come on, we got to capatalize on that Phillies loss today…

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:21 pm

We’ll take it.
This guy having a problem finding the strike zone.
And on that note, he’s outta there.

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:22 pm

Murphy is the best hitter on this team. Absolutely born to hit. He has batting champion written all over him. (knock on wood).

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 9:22 pm

wow putrid defense by hanley

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:27 pm

always.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:22 pm

don’t have sny here…watching on mlbtv…is it true? no guisseppe franco this year?

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:24 pm

Correct. There was actually a post about it. Something to do with due to financial considerations, it will not be an advertiser this year.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 9:23 pm

we really need to score now

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:25 pm

Gary is right – this Marlins BP is their weakness.
Now let’s capitalize on it, boys.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:25 pm

C’mon Carlos… here’s another opportunity…. Let’s get it….

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:28 pm

Carlos #2 …

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:26 pm

Ouch.
Bases loaded.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:27 pm

Hopefully that didn’t break anything….

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 9:27 pm

Beltran GS (fingers crossed) awsome for the mets awesome for my fantasy team great overall

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 9:28 pm

RBI is still good though

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm

Ha-ha, good to see that all your bases are covered….

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 9:28 pm

Lets Go Mets

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:28 pm

Nice hustle by Beltran

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm

O.K., we’ll take that one.
Up to you now Church.

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm

yes baby

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm

Need Tatis here

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:30 pm

Church is a stud. And we’ll want his D once we take the lead here.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:30 pm

ooo yea tatis will come up here

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:32 pm

We have Reed for defesne. not crazy about this decison.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm

anyone know the career numbers with pinto/church and pinto/schneider

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 9:31 pm

Church: 1 for 3 with a walk

Schneider: 2 for 5

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:29 pm

this is our inning LETS GET ITT

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 9:30 pm

nice carlos…nice…

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:31 pm

Whether it’s Chuch or Tatis, we need to tie this game. A sac fly will do.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:31 pm

interesting call by jerry tonight… compared to lastnight

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 9:32 pm

its funny to think that a rod makes more than the entire marlins team.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:32 pm

how about tatis as a pinch hitter next at bat

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:33 pm

Agreed. Don’t be afraid to PH for the catcher!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:33 pm

than go with castro for castillo, than bring in cora for tatis defensively

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:33 pm

or if the inning goes long enough cora for the pitcher

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:34 pm

C’mon baby!!!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:34 pm

good…

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Tatis. Get it done here, Fernando.

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Jerry > Willie

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Here’s Mr. BIg Hit

ProudMetFan April 10, 2009 at 9:35 pm

lets go fernando

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:35 pm

Marlins will be out of pitchers by next inning.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:37 pm

Ha – was just thinking that same thing. Reminds me of the Mets BP last year…
Marlins BP will be the weakness that does them in, unless their starters can go consistently 8 innings.

How well we know…..

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:35 pm

it doesn’t matter fernando. you can hit better off righty’s, than brian can

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:36 pm

BIG SPOT here for fernando i want a shot in the gap LETS GET ITTT

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:38 pm

Just and I mean just missed it

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:38 pm

Good, Tatis. You did your job.
All new ball game. Now let’s go ahead, here.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:38 pm

NICE JOB FERNANDO just missed it!!!!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:38 pm

Thank you for listening Tatis lol Had me thinking that was a home run off the bat… Now bring in Ramon

DonHahn1 April 10, 2009 at 9:39 pm

Wow, Just missed! Well at least its tied.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:39 pm

Damn…. didn’t miss that by much….. but it’s a new game now… come on castillo…..

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm

why are you leaving castillo in here? come on. uggh maybe he’ll prove me wrong. i’m not even sure who we’d bring in, but the point is, we need the lead

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm

This is where Castillo turns it around….

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm

Guess not….. que “M”

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:40 pm

good eye so far

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:41 pm

please don’t swing…

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:41 pm

come on castillo…

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 9:42 pm

what’s luis looking for at 2-1???? fb down the plate, i’d hope. that’s what he got and he just stared at it.

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm

as he should… best-case scenario with him is a walk.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 9:50 pm

then he should save a tree and not get bats

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:42 pm

Castillo is AWFULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:42 pm

Sigh……
Nasty pitch.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm

does he EVER SWINGGGGGGG

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm

Gotta swing if its close…mor.on.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm

I’m sorry, but Castillo is such a freaking coward. He won’t swing. He thinks he can make it through entire at bats with his eyes. I’m sick of this. Yank him. He won’t make it any longer than Kaz Matsui did in ‘06.

DonHahn1 April 10, 2009 at 9:43 pm

OK, tough break, that pitch could have gone either way.

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:44 pm

He cannot be defended for that putrid AB

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:44 pm

How many runners has Luis left on by himself? This is freaking ridiculous. I’d feel better leaving Tatis at 2B, so we actually have someone who’ll swing next time around.

TheGameChanger April 10, 2009 at 9:46 pm

I am so sick of Castillo and his AB’s. SWING THE D*MN BAT!! Why is he constantly looking for walks?

You got 2 fastballs down the middle of the plate in a tie game, with a runner in scoring position. Why is it so difficult to swing?

OH right..Marlon Anderson was on deck. Makes complete sense. Castillo is going to get boo’d out of Citi Field if these types of AB’s keep up.

Someone needs to tell him to start swinging.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:44 pm

can the bullpen do it cmon boys LETS GET ITTTT

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:45 pm

Now it’s a battle of the bullpen. Can’t give up any runs. Nice inning here. Score a run in the 8th from Bobby. And Putz and K-Rod send us home happy… That’s what I wanna see.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 9:45 pm

why isnt Putz pitching?

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 9:45 pm

7th innning

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:45 pm

7th inning?

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:46 pm

its only the 7th inning. putz role is the 8th. we could get through this, take the lead and have a save situation protected with jj and a save from frankie if we score in the 8th or 9th

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 9:46 pm

7th inning tie game

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:45 pm

nice inning here from bobby* lol i didn’t mean to say he’d score us a run, unless he’s some kind of hitter we never knew of

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:46 pm

Murphy gets good jumps for a guy that is supposed to be terrible defensively.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:47 pm

Ok, now it our back of the bullpen against their back of the bullpen …. mano a mano!

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:48 pm

Bobby Smokes,.

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 9:49 pm

no smoking according to the commercial lungs are like spounges

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:48 pm

they just had that fastball at 99

dominicanboy08 April 10, 2009 at 9:48 pm

99 MPH,,WOW PARNELL!!!!!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:48 pm

come on bobby one more out

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:49 pm

they should have seen that coming… but what are you gonna do? i’d like to see jose get on more this way… it’d help. get baker out

atrain311 April 10, 2009 at 9:50 pm

I’m not sure what to think about Louis. I want him to be good. I really do, but he’s such a weak link. I know it’s greedy to want strength 1-8, but he is just a bit depressing.

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:50 pm

just a bit…….

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm

Bad contract signing by Omar. He should anticipated signing Hudson instead of Castillo and sign Mark Gruszjhzidmans.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm

…for one year.

Shyt. Hanley

seanmac1844 April 10, 2009 at 9:50 pm

their has got to be somebody in this organization that can play 2nd base better than LC. Hell, put Tatis there, just no more Luis.

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Cora?

seanmac1844 April 10, 2009 at 9:53 pm

hell yeah, forgot all about Cora. Jerry, please get Luis out of there.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:50 pm

Tough break.
Come on, Bobby. You can get Hanley. No worries.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:51 pm

Grrrrrrrr, c’mon

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:51 pm

WARM UP THE PUTZ-ROD

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm

Oh man. I hate Ramirez.

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Hanley Ramirez is really good, and why the hell is Parnell throwing an awful slider there?

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:53 pm

well, there’s a reason why this guy is mentioned when talking about the best SS in the league….

jimyager April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

Two games in a row that we cant get a hit when we need it and when our pitchers give it right back. It is still early, but, I cant help but feel like HERE WE GO AGAIN.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 9:53 pm

the difference in this game … getting hits with RISP vs. grounding out or sac flys

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Did I already mention that I hate Hanley Ramirez?

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

I like him, at second base for the Mets….

TheGameChanger April 10, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Difference between Mets and Marlins:

Marlins hit in the clutch.

Mets wish they could hit in the clutch.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

Difference between rational people and morons:

Morons complain that the sky is falling

Rational people see it as the 4th game of the season

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 9:57 pm

Kumbaya…., can’t we all just get along?

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

and there ya go … perfect example. their franchise player gets a 2 out rbi … the mets’ franchise player grounds to short with man on 2nd.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

sorry, didn’t mean to reply here

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:54 pm

so much for a revamped bullpen

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

Yeah, what the hell, let’s just not play the rest of the season and go home. How much longer till football right?

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

they arent going to be pefect every game.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 9:56 pm

not sayin they have to be perfect every night but thats 3 straight games now

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 9:58 pm

they were perfect in perez’s outing.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:02 pm

yeah, they were perfect in ollie’s outing. they did a good job that game. they did awesome on opening day. the second game was a little shaky. i don’t think you can blame that on o’day though. ollie shouldn’t have put that many runners on, but jerry shouldn’t have let him dry out there that long…

good job danny. good aggressiveness. seriously, why can’t he play 2B? maybe the mets should learn from that aggression

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 10:06 pm

yea but o’day has to get those guys on base in that game. an if he does the mets tie the game an maybe even win that game you know, but iam just upset. and then to see dwright ground out with a runner in scoring postion an see hanley rip a single says alot

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

Not true. The bullpen is much, much, MUCH better than last year. C’mon man.

TheGameChanger April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

This game isn’t on the bullpen or the starting pitching, thankfully.

It’s on the Mets complete and utter inability to get base hits when there are runners in scoring position. It’s the same lineup as last year and you will get the same result as last year.

We have the wonderful Luis Castillo looking to draw a walk with a man on 2B and 2 outs. It’s simply unreal how stupid of a baseball player he is. He is going to destroy this team.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 9:54 pm

Hanley got his hit off the end of the bat. Good pitch by Bobby.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm

All of that with two outs, huh? You know what, enough with this philosophical bullshyt. If Jerry’s such a brain, he should have known better not to pitch to a .462 red-hot Hanley Ramirez with a base open. Whether it’s Tatis staying in LF over Reed, Jerry’s decision to let Castillo go in every at bat getting abused or this, I’m questioning all this…

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 9:56 pm

I want to say I’m confident with Bobby, but you know what, we should have more than 3 freaking runs right now, with all those left in RISP, largely due to Castillo. I mean, how many chances do you need to give a guy before realizing it’s just not going to come? I guarantee if Easley’s there, he gets a hit. Give him a call and let him take over, just like last season.

TheGameChanger April 10, 2009 at 10:00 pm

The reason its not going to come is because the man is a coward. He isn’t going to SWING.

No matter what the situation…he is looking to walk every single time. Get used to it.

thanks again omar.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 9:57 pm

Gary ‘could be Marlon’s last stand’.
Could be? I’d lay odds on that one.

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 9:58 pm

Goodbye, Marlon Anderson. Last AB as a Met.

apple_outta_da_hat April 10, 2009 at 10:00 pm

we can only hope

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 9:58 pm

painful to watch

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:00 pm

2 runs from 2 innings from a bullpen just isn’t going to cut it… those are supposed to be our two best middle relievers too.

apple_outta_da_hat April 10, 2009 at 10:02 pm

waaah…..waaah….waaah

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

there could be a lot of that this season if they don’t get it together lol i hope not, at least…

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 10:01 pm

gotta love murphy.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:02 pm

Murph!!!!!

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 10:02 pm

Murphy dosent have great speed but his baserunning is boss

TheGameChanger April 10, 2009 at 10:03 pm

He’s a gamer. Simple as that. A fearless ballplayer. He’s the anti Castillo.

Now lets see the golden boy earn his paycheck.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:02 pm

No one told Murphy this team can’t hit in the late innings – GO DANIEL.

Ramirez might be a great hitter but I don’t think his defense in the field is ever gonna be better than mediocre.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:03 pm

You know, I have to apologize to Murphy…, I was one of those people who clamored for Ramirez…., boy was I wrong….

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

Not necessarily.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm

Well, from the aspect of just the desire he shows….,

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 10:03 pm

MURPHY!!!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:03 pm

just come true david

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm

of course david can’t come through, right… oh well. onto the 9th.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm

there it is … with the game on the line, hanley comes through, wright grounds out. all you need to know.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

It’s one at bat, all you need to know…

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:14 pm

yeah, you’re right. it’s not the exact same as last year. wright didnt hit in the 240s with RISP last year. why do people keep saying 1 game, 1 ab, early in the year???? this stuff’s been a problem for over a year now. wake up.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:16 pm

… and even if it is one ab. that one ab is the difference in this game. so it essentially equals one loss. how many games did we miss the playoffs by these last two years? oh yeah, that’s right…

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Oh for the love of…..

Over/under we get to Lindstrom in the 9th?
Sigh….

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 10:06 pm

I say we load the bases and strand ‘em

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Wright is so not clutch

TheGameChanger April 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Good job David. Way to come up in a big spot D-Rod.

2 outs and a RISP on this team is kryptonite

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

It’s a long season. Relax.

TheGameChanger April 10, 2009 at 10:08 pm

Its been a long 2007 and 2008. I’m finished relaxing.
It’s time for this team to put up.

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:09 pm

yeah, but it’s the exact playbook from last year too. this is nothing new. not just 4 games.

SantanaClause April 10, 2009 at 10:04 pm

Whoa David Wright not getting the clutch hit to score Murphy where have i heard/seen this b4.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:06 pm

all the things i want to say about wright wouldnt let me post on the site..so ill just sum it up as best as i can…wright is AWFUL…already looks like he is pressing and its only the 4th game of the season…holy crap

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 10:09 pm

francessa? i didn’t know you posted on metsblog! you were a lot better with the dog

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

Why, Wright why?

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:05 pm

We need need a new third baseman.

That Wright guy can’t score a run to save his life.

We should cut him too.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:06 pm

Just, wow….

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm

Sarcasm

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:08 pm

Sorry, right over my head…..

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Thanks, yes dripping w/ it.

I was mimicking the naysayers.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:08 pm

i agree he cant score a run WHEN IT MATTERS…he is able to get runs in when it is a blowout…but good job getting that run in…not just him the rest of the team…considering we are yet again 0-8 or 0-9 with RISP…good job mets

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm

…. and we haven’t won with Santana either. Why are we paying him so much money. Maybe we can package Wright and Santana for a bunch of great prospects. lol.

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

prospects nothing. according to the einsteins here we should package those two for arthur rhoades and cody ross.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:12 pm

id rather johan come to bat with a man on 2nd…i feel good with both carlos and carlos coming up…beltran has been nasty to start the season

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm

relax lol wright’s come through with hits, just not the ones we really need… i guess you can call him ”non-clutch” in a sense. i don’t even know if the wbc hit counts for anything, because to most americans, the wbc meant nothing lol if jj can keep it here i feel good with next inning, as long as castillo doesn’t get an at bat

DoYouSeeInHD April 10, 2009 at 10:06 pm

In the 11 innings that the mets have scored in the early season, 7 of those innings were followed by giving runs back. That, combined with horrible average w risp is making for a very painful early season.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:08 pm

…. you mean, after 3 games?

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm

That David Murphy can sure play.

I remember a few years ago we had a couple of young kids that played that way.

They played the left side of the infield, wonder what ever happened to them

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:08 pm

They both became two of the better players in baseball, especially the one at 3rd???

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 10:11 pm

Sylar, just ignore them.

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:16 pm

That was sarcasm…

I was poking @ the foolish bloggers who can’t recall the team plays 162 games this year.

Sorry you didn’t see that.

:)

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:11 pm

That didn’t take very long.

You win…

apple_outta_da_hat April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

who’s david murphy?

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 10:11 pm

Plays for Texas, right?

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:13 pm

David Murphy is that new kid on the Mets. Seems no one can get his name right, even Gary slipped tonight.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 10:09 pm

i hope delgado takes that 100 mph fastball an puts in in the seats next inning.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

y isnt reyes takin that himself

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

No hit, no catch… Mr Non-chalant on the field…. wow…

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

come on putz get out of this

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

just to get to the point…they do not deserve this game. the more things change the more they stay the same. it is early, but with ALL the problems last season, if they hit with RISP they still would have won the east.

here it is again. walks. ground outs. sac flys. that is not going to get it done when the chips are on the table. let us all hope this is not the beginning of the trend we saw all of last season. this is a game that could have been had, it is just a shame.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:14 pm

yup, you’re right. this is the kind of game a world champion wins, or at least a division winner in a tough division. you got to fight your way through games. there’s no reason why we couldn’t have scored more runs. luis has had numerous chances though and they’re just not doing anything about it… alex cora, and maybe ramon martinez, could probably give us more. all luis castillo is an older overpaid argenis reyes with not as much mobility

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:26 pm

it is hard, i am trying not to be negative, but this in a lot of ways is a carbon copy of last season.

i understand that there was some bad luck for parnell and i love that they did come back, but they wasted an ok outing for maine by letting SO many chances go by the waste side. i do not expect them to always get the “big hit,” but 0-10 w/RISP is just killer. not acceptable really.

as a side, why have they gotten away from the agressive play of 06 07? it tailed off last season and it seems it to be trending in that direction this season.

hard to watch, hard to watch

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:10 pm

just let cora play. there is no reason to have castillo on this team. or at least not in the lineup.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:12 pm

Maybe we outta try Murphy batting 3rd. lol.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:12 pm

good job jj.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:12 pm

…it all just looks the same. castillo taking 9 pitches per at bat to get called out looking. not driving the ball at all. i don’t know, i am willing to see what he can do, but it is not looking good at all to this point.

mjkru April 10, 2009 at 10:12 pm

can castillo hurt this team in any other ways? Terrible “hitter,” bad range, and unable to turn a routine double play. Eat his contract and say goodbye before the fans make him cry.

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:13 pm

i’m tired of waiting for castillo to produce. it’s just not gonna happen.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:15 pm

tell me about it. i was (and am) rooting for him, for him, and…..well, there really is no other option, but it is already getting old only a few games in. i appreciate he has come in with the right attitude and worked his you know what off in the offseason, but he is not giving anything to this point.

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:17 pm

exactly. i try so hard to stay positive but it’s already getting difficult.

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:14 pm

alright mets. lets do this.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:15 pm

C’mon Delgado… park it in the lonely outfield seats…

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:16 pm

come on guys!

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:18 pm

What’s up with these camera guys? Took two replays before I could even catch that play.

And again, Ramirez in the field….
We’ll take it.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:19 pm

still want him at second…

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:18 pm

Ok, C’mon Church…. Park it in the lonely outfield seats…..

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:20 pm

this team hits like this with RISP all year..we wont even be in second place…marlins and philly will be and are able to hit with risp..

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:21 pm

with their history so far…im being very negative..i hope they can turn it around very soon

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:20 pm

And Church comes through.
Let’s do it, Ramon.

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:20 pm

okay…c’mon castro. maybe

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:21 pm

12 LOB. Please tell me we’re not gonna see this double digit stat all season.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:22 pm

i think we will

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:23 pm

I said don’t tell me – lol.

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:22 pm

yeah..that stat is awful to think about. at least castillo won’t be hitting next if we even get to the 8 spot.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:21 pm

C’mon watermelon head…

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:22 pm

Baring a DP here, at least we won’t be seeing Castillo coming up.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:24 pm

Something tells me you won’t be seeing him tomorrow either…

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:27 pm

Like I said…. no Castillo tomorrow…

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:24 pm

good job castro…way to get a hit..excellent…he can take part in the 0-10 with RISP…good job mets

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:24 pm

No way should we even be in this position.
12 LOB…..They have GOT to find a way to reverse this trend.

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:24 pm

ugh…

c’mon reed. at least he’s not a guaranteed out like castillo would’ve been.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:25 pm

C’mon Jeremy….

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:27 pm

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:26 pm

ahahahahahaha yes!

reed!

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 10:26 pm

woo hoo!

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:27 pm

YES !!!!!!!!!!
At least someone knows how to hit with R.I.S.P.

Jeremy Reed is the MAN!

putz-rod.com April 10, 2009 at 10:27 pm

Clutch hitting what?

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:28 pm

maybe reed can take wright under his wing and show him how to do that…ohhh man…how sweet it would be to take the lead and bring krod in

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 10:28 pm

we’ve already burned our bench..

domosnacks5 April 10, 2009 at 10:28 pm

Jeremy Reed t-shirt jersey order… complete.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:28 pm

lol

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:30 pm

i can already tell that the marlins are going to be more annoying than the phillies

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:29 pm

Come on, get a run in. I think we’re out of bench players.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:29 pm

In case Cora doesn’t come through here… the Marlins don’t have Robert Andino on their bench, right?

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:32 pm

top of the lineup coming up in the 10th…hopefully if feliciano can get them out

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:30 pm

thank you! i guess all they needed was someone different! this is a game they just have to win now for mental stability. it can turn all the negative things into a positive

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:30 pm

Oh man…..Real happy we tied but we’d better hold it and we’d better get something going in the 10th.
No spares left….

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:30 pm

We’re fighting man. Gotta give credit to Jeremy Reed. He came through. He’s definitely earned some of our respect with that hit.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:32 pm

indeed. i like they that they have been fighting and clawing, let us just hope they finish the deal.

let us also not see hanley bat OR that blur get on base.

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 10:30 pm

wow jerry has the balls to put in feliciano

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

o no…..

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:33 pm

nah, that was the umpire….

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

when did cantu turn into keith?

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

i’m watching on mlb.tv and the game froze as soon as cora hit the ball in to play. i had no idea what happened. i was going crazy. bahhhhh

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

I think I would have brought Frankie in, but maybe they think we can bring this into the 10th with the other’s, score and than bring him in… We’ve given up 2 runs in 3 innings with the pen tonight. No excuse to give up anymore. Let’s get through this. Take the lead with the top of the order next inning and win this.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

Like a General on the front lines would say…. HOLD!!!!!!!!!!!

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

when did cantu learn how to field his position?

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 10:31 pm

REED!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:32 pm

It would have been nice to have Livan Hernandez here as an extra pinch hitter right now… Not sure who they’d go to. Maybe Santana.

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 10:32 pm

that would be my guess..

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:32 pm

oh nooooooo….feliciano…

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 10:33 pm

yea risky to have him face righties.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:34 pm

jesus….here we go

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:34 pm

anytime i hear a name that was involved with our bullpen last year i die a little inside.

EMurray92 April 10, 2009 at 10:36 pm

thats exactly how I felt. We should have revamped the WHOLE bullpen

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

the name heilman scares the hell out of me.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:39 pm

lol..heilman and schowenweis…however you spell it…oh god…i cant even think about last year

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

feliciano has looked great this year though…feliciano was a bright spot last year…he just pitched too much last year…hes a lefty specialist…worked too much last year

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:33 pm

wow. it looked awesome not seeing castillo playing at second.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:33 pm

Come on Feliciano… Two more outs.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:33 pm

have to win this game…they can not afford to let this get away. bring us all back to 06 a little bit

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:34 pm

cant fault him for that….got the ground ball

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:34 pm

ughh… tough break. we gotta out of this.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:35 pm

cantu is a gold glover and this guy suddenly has figured out how to get on base.

i am so nervous i feel sick

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:36 pm

lol…yeah…he turned into keith

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Is there anything that has gone right for us this game?
Bloop hits are killing us.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:35 pm

feliciano has looked nice this year so far

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:37 pm

he’s not looking bad tonight. i’m still scared.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:37 pm

nice job feliciano..could be out of this inning…lets go mets…lets go…one more one more

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:37 pm

i know it is like they are just battling uphill both ways in this one…it would only make it that much sweeter

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:37 pm

O.K. nice K.
O’Day? Holding my breath here….

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

Honestly, I think anybody they brought in would make us hold our breath….

chesbomb April 10, 2009 at 10:39 pm

i’ve chewed off all my fingernails during this game lol

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:40 pm

Ha-ha… I had a full head of hair….

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

nice job pedro, if it wasnt for emilios speed he would have had a 1 2 3 inning

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

feliciano did his job. got caught on one tough break because of bonifacio’s speed. he’s made a nice turn around the last couple days after making us lose it on tuesday

rM teM April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

Darren O’day and Farful

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

who is sick right now? hanley…shrug

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 10:38 pm

god nerve racking

EMurray92 April 10, 2009 at 10:40 pm

Does anyone else hate this new layout? I have to scroll from the bottom to read new posts???

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm

Agreed.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm

you know i thought after last year i could face anything..yet it is still nerve wrecking

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm

Oh to be a Mets fan. it’s never easy….

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:40 pm

Settle down, O’Day.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:42 pm

oh god

WrightsRight April 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm

nice late inning pressure situation stats for hanley

apple_outta_da_hat April 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm

TOOL

jaydh April 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm

pitching around hanley to get to cantu

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:43 pm

difference…the marlins can get runners in from 2nd with two outs…now im extremely nervous

smm140 April 10, 2009 at 10:43 pm

whatever the outcome, that is the right move. can’t let hanley beat you. he’s too automatic.

DonHahn1 April 10, 2009 at 10:43 pm

Wow, I thought they traded Joe Smith.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm

jesus christ

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm

I can’t believe it.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm

What happened

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm

13 LOB.
Enough said.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm

unreal. this is last season

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm

You know what, get rid of Darren O’Day. What’s this guy doing here? A middle reliever’s job is to be able to come into a game and get out of innings with runner’s on. There’s a reason this guy hasn’t lasted on a major league roster very long. This is why the Angels didn’t want to hold onto him. He walks guys. He can’t control his pitches.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:46 pm

Middle reliever pitching in the bottom of the 9th. What’s wrong with this picture?
It should have been KRod to protect the save we didn’t have b/c – I don’t know – 13 LOB……….

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 10:45 pm

cmon guys its the same old crap as last year, this is a joke

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:46 pm

You are absolutely correct.

WrightsRight April 10, 2009 at 10:45 pm

I wonder when this team will get sick of the Marlins beating up on them

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:45 pm

We were 10-8 against the Fish last year, and 11-7 the year before

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm

Yeah, it just feels that the losses hurt more, than the wins feel good….

WrightsRight April 10, 2009 at 10:56 pm

Exactly. I know we always win the season series, but the losses have been a lot more bitter in the last couple of years and they always, always play the Mets tough.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm

new season…last years stats dont even matter anymore..marlins beat the mets when it matters most

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:54 pm

So let me get this straight, game number 4 is when it matters the most? You can’t be talking about last season because you just said that did not count. LOL.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:45 pm

I keep on telling you guys that Manuel is a stupid JO. Why wasn’t Frankie Rodriguez in the game?

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm

We go through this every year. 99% of managers save their closer if the game is tied.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm

I thought not if you’re the visiting team, right? Between Putz and FrankieRod, we should have had it covered without having to go to Darren O’Freaking Day!

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:52 pm

Slider think this through. So you bring in Krod and he gets the hold. Who pitches in the 10th to hold or save the game?

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:52 pm

That’s true. I mean, if you’re going to rest K-Rod, but not Putz, I don’t really see how that makes sense. In a save situation, you want to use both of them. What bothered me is they didn’t even have him warmed up, for the option. It’s not like this is cold Cincy either. South Florida’s a more ideal place to warm up quicker.

If this were last year, unless it were the first month or two of the season, I’d never want Billy Wagner having the ball in the 9th, but hey, I don’t think I would have wanted any of those losers too. People can go ahead and keep saying Jerry Manuel’s some ”genius” or ”philosopher” all they want, yet he disappoints with some of the most basic things. Not just Tatis playing LF over Reed the other night, or letting Castillo dry out there, but this too.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:55 pm

Who pitches the 10th inning?

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm

Because we didn’t have the lead?

And somebody had to pitch the tenth.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:49 pm

Damn right. I wanted to know why he wasn’t either. Maybe he figured he wanted to save him for Saturday and Sunday. I don’t see why he can’t pitch both games over the weekend now, but he should have came in. Feliciano got his job done, for the most part, than O’Day loses it. O’Day just isn’t that good. I said last night to people on here that we should be concerned about him, and well, we should. He may have not given up an earn run yet, but the three inherited runs he’s given up have been that crucial. If he gets out of that messy Ollie inning, the game would have eventually went 6-6. If he got out of a more reasonable Feliciano started jam, it’s 4-4. A couple of tie games. I could see maybe giving up a run in one of those appearances, but both? I just don’t trust this guy…

apple_outta_da_hat April 10, 2009 at 10:49 pm

then what? use O’day in the 10th?
(hindsight is 20/20)

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

Exactly.

It’s pick your poison if the good relievers get rocked.

J.M. did the right thing there.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:45 pm

Oh well….. I guess it wasn’t meant to be….

wrightstuff08 April 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm

Well, according to some ppl on here, the only problem in ‘08 was the bullpen. This happened over and over again last year where this offense cant hit with RISP. This is totally on the offense.

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:52 pm

I wonder if there are any good hitting coaches available?

Keith has all the answers, why don’t they bring him down from the booth (I’m serious this time).

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:46 pm

3 ER from the bullpen in 4 IP. That’s what I’m concerned about. I don’t these ”oh that’s a little bloop hit” crap… You know what, once, twice, fine, but it’s like we had to hear that five times today. We don’t have a good pitching match up tomorrow. We should have one this game. This is a game a tough team wins… We’ve got the talent, but we just ain’t tough. Not enough Daniel Murphy’s on this roster…

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:46 pm

i dont get this…how can there be positives?…maine…good job…that to me is what spring training is for…what spring training is for also is to get used to HITTING WITH RUNNERS IN SCORING POSITION….but i guess they decided not to cover that…they have been terrible…oh my god

reyesoflight April 10, 2009 at 10:49 pm

there isnt a positive the team is a joke again, our bullpen is not that good we cant get anyone out its upsetting

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:53 pm

One positive i can take from this is that last year this game would have been over in the 5th…. the comeback is reminiscent of 2006, the wins will come….

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm

That was tough……

A good fight by the Mets…..

But the Marlins did it again…….

1 for 12, that hurts…Can’t have that.

What ever happened to those opposite field drills????

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm

OH DEAR GOD!!! Fire sale the entire roster. What a bunch of bums! Reyes, Wright, Beltran, Delgado, Santana, all WASHED UP!! IT’S OVER EVERYONE, WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR!!

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm

ROFL!!!!!!!

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm

Might as well give them their time. Nothing we say is going to make them rational or keep them from panicing.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm

Yeah, and while there at it, take down Citi-Field and bring back Shea.. ha-ha…

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm

lol..haha

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 11:01 pm

My big concern is that it seems the only team everyone is going to whip this year is the nats.

The NL East is going to be nasty this year.

We are going to need every single win out of division win we can get, because the East is a cat fight.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm

I stand correct. It wasn’t 13 LOB, for crying out loud it was actually 14.
Any two pushed across would have done it.

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 10:52 pm

I’m really not trying to sound like I’m making excuses here. I agree leaving 14 men on base isn’t going to get the job done. One of the problems they will have untill at least next week is you only get a limited amount of time in the batting cage on the road. So if you’re in a funk either as a player or as a team it’s hard to break out. Got to get better I agree, but I’m willing to give the benefit of the doubt for now.

NYMetsTalk April 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm

-no clutch hits. nice.
-bullpen got rocked, they are so lucky each guy only gave up a run.

yeah this isn’t familiar. now we get shutdown by Nolasco tomorrow.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:49 pm

So you did not see the 3 clutch hits in a row to tie?

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:53 pm

did they lose?…yes…did they come through in the clutch at least half of the time?….no…why should met fans…given the last two years…feel happy right now?…when last year towards the end of the year they couldnt get a clutch hit to save their lives and now it continues into this year…good…they got 3 clutch hits to tie…and how is it 3?..i believe only reed had to get a clutch it…so…how can you feel good?…i just dont get it

KL15 April 10, 2009 at 10:56 pm

I would like to add that last year when I was tearing up Howard Johnson everyone said I was picking on the wrong guy.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:59 pm

i dont believe it is howard johnson..just the fact that johnson can only do so much to help…he cant control if the players get clutch hits..which they cant…and thats the problem…they can all hit…its just the matter of being able to get the hit at the right time

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

LOL so only hits that drive IN runs are clutch now? You guys are crazy. It’s like there needs to be a definition of clutch and then we can always rely on it. You guys just adjust it to what ever you need at the time.
Yes we were TERRIBLE with RISP but to tell me that those are the only clutch AB’s? Getting 3 hits in a row against the Marlins closer who is throwing 95+ is clutch from every single one of them.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 11:03 pm

that is stupid…so when any team can get three hits off of a starting pitcher who is throwing 90-93 MPH…thats getting clutch hits?….no…thats stupid…when you have men on first and second with no outs…and you dont get any runs in…that is NOT clutch…

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:10 pm

There was 1 out down by 1 in the top of the 9th and we get 3 straight hits. How is that not clutch? We missed a lot of opprotunities but those 3 hits against the other teams closer were clutch.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:55 pm

thereal, i more or less agree with you here, but generally, the “clutch” hitting was non-existent. had they cashed in at a poor level in any of the numerous chances they had earlier in the game, the game very well could have been over

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm

Manuel sux. Either Putz or FrankRod should have been in to pitch the bottom or part of the bottom of the 9th. O’Day????? Are you freaking kidding me???

Thank you Dr. Hibbert. (Hohohohoho.)

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm

You don’t bring in your closer in a tie game and Putz was taken out for a pinchitter

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 10:50 pm

Strange but I was under the impression that you have to sub out a pitcher once he is hit for. Hmmm. You are right Jerry IS The Idiot.

atrain311 April 10, 2009 at 10:49 pm

I have so many words, that it’s probably better off that I just keep my mouth shut. Unbelievable.

Maineiac April 10, 2009 at 10:49 pm

Different faces, same results….

CannonBoy13 April 10, 2009 at 10:53 pm

Ain’t that the truth. This team will be lucky to finish third in the division. No timely hits. This is why they should have gotten Manny.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:54 pm

D.U.M.B.A.S.S.

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 10:56 pm

why is he a d.u.m.b.a.s.s?…the manny is a little extreme…but hes right…phillies and atlanta are going to tear us apart…especially since we dont get big hits when they count….marlins dont have a problem doing that…

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 10:57 pm

why are you always being such a dick?

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 10:57 pm

not u krod that dick sylar

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:59 pm

I said it because he is saying, after THE FOURTH GAME OF THE SEASON, that we’ll be lucky to finish in 3rd.

CannonBoy13 April 10, 2009 at 10:57 pm

Keep on living in your fantasy world Sylar.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 11:01 pm

It’s the fourth game of the season, and I’m not living in a fantasy, I’m just not acting like a chicken with his head cut off.

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 11:06 pm

I think we hurt his feelings

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:30 pm

I don’t think Sylar has to say that, for people to know that. We all know the season isn’t ”over.” We all know it’s unlikely we’d end up in 3rd. We all know the Marlins and Braves, even if it takes a month or two, will revert back to their .500 ways. To say the Phillies will eat us alive, when they struggle with RISP too, and can’t get any quality starts, nor an ace who can consistently get past 86 MPH, it doesn’t make sense to say that. All of our games have been close. Even if we haven’t started out like the Marlins, we sure haven’t started out like the Phillies or Nats.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

ROFL.

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 11:02 pm

Too funny…

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 11:06 pm

I mean we hurt her feelings

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:52 pm

at least just throw it to hanley. i mean, anything to the outfield and he was in standing on second.

don’t GIVE them the game in EVERY way. i would rather two hits beat me than to just advance the runners.

that said, once again, it came down to hits when it mattered. the mets did not (save reed) in many more chances than did the marlins. a three-hit two out rally late with another clutch two out hit in the ninth to win it.

put it in the books. tough, tough loss in a lot of ways. pen, overall, i don’t know to this point. at this rate, even if they don’t give up runs they will burnt by june. “clutch” hitting, i don’t know. castillo?

just looking a lot more like last season than i wanted to see already.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:52 pm

So, you guys are ok with Jerry’s use of the bullpen tonight?

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 10:53 pm

yeah fine with it

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:55 pm

Not really, but if Parnell and Green didn’t give up runs, or reasonable expecting, only one of them gave up one run, it’s a 4-3 ball game that JJ sets up and Frankie closes. Frankie should have been in the game, after Feliciano took care of the lefty. You put talent up against talent. That’s what you do with Hanley. You don’t back down like O’Day did, leaving RISP. The odds of Hanley beating you with a double or home run are less than Cantu with a single.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 10:57 pm

obviously you can not see the walk before it happens, but i would rather see them get “beat” than make it easier on them to beat them if that makes any sense. that is, don’t walk the guy and just move everyone up a base. make the opponent make the play to beat you.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:03 pm

With O’Day, I could have seen that walk coming. I knew he was going to throw around Hanley, because he’s had a great game. O’Day’s had a tough time gathering his command. Point is, with runner on 1st and 2 out, you want Frankie in there. He gets the one out, you score, and he gets through the 10th inning. The top of the order was coming up, so if Frankie would have come to bat, the Mets would have had to score a couple runs, which would have been fine leaving him in. This is how I would have done it. I don’t agree with Jerry’s selection of who he used, but I guess it doesn’t matter. The game is over. I just don’t like seeing this play out. I think Jerry’s relying way too much on his middle relieving core, to use them instead of K-Rod, at least.

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 10:59 pm

I don’t care what “The Book” says. FrankieRod should have been in the game instead of O’Day.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:02 pm

Who pitches the 10th?

The Slider April 10, 2009 at 11:04 pm

Sorry. The 9th. Whatever. Same argument. Same result.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:04 pm

Why not Frankie? If he only comes in for one out, is it really that much to ask for the 10th inning out of him? I don’t care if it’s a save situation, or a win. What I want is a win. K-Rod’s the guy who gives you the best chance to win, at that point in the game. Now, if we didn’t score, and got through the tenth, than it’s a legit question to ask, but ideally you go with Stokes, with the anticipation he could go 2-3 IP, if need be, although he might not have not been able to do that on back-to-back days.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:09 pm

Look if a guy is in our pen then Jerry should be able to use him late in a tie game.
This is on O’day not on Jerry. If it was late in the season and O’day had an ERA of 6 then you might have a case. But for right now it was the EASY call. You would not have gotten ANY manager who would use their closer there.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:53 pm

We know we have a rock solid closer and set up man. They’ve only given up one earned run in five combined innings. Pretty good ERA. We could even say we have a pretty decent long reliever. It’s everything in between that’s questionable.

CannonBoy13 April 10, 2009 at 10:55 pm

Same crap every year. You will not win with the chemistry of this team. They are surely lacking a big time hittet.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

Blah, blah, I’m in love with Manny’s fro, blah blah

CannonBoy13 April 10, 2009 at 11:01 pm

Doesn’t have to me Manny. Could be anyone. But this team needs a big time hitter who will continuely come up with the big RBI’s

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:06 pm

And you want him to take who’s spot?
Murphy or Church?

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 10:54 pm

too many should/woulda/couldas in this game.
If we didn’t leave so many on base.
If Tatis didn’t just miss.
If there weren’t those couple/three bloop hits.
If Cantu didn’t look like a gold glover tonight.
Could go on and on…

This is one we could have won.

It is what it is – that’s why it’s called Baseball.

Come out tomorrow, shake it off, shake it up a bit and give Livan some run support.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 10:56 pm

AAAAAAAA……..MEN!!!!!!!!!!

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

Exactly. Lots of if’s. But it all doesn’t matter. The point is, the best thing we can take out of this game is John Maine had a solid outing. 2 of our 4 main SP’s have looked good so far. Pelfrey looked good in between the 2nd & 5th inning of his game too. Compare that to the Phillies. Moyer and Myers looked good after the 3rd, kind of like Pelfrey after the second, but Blanton and Cole were lit up like christmas trees, while Ollie was for us. Also, the Jeremy Reed hit was pretty nice. The biggest concern, to me, is the middle reliever’s, basically, everyone except K-Rod, Putz and Stokes. Either way, we go into tomorrow’s came poised and ready. Just like after not scoring much on Opening day, we have to go out and score right away.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:02 pm

i agree with you, it is just that in the end, for how horrid the phillies have looked if the mets lose tomorrow and phillies win…they have the same records……AND the marlins are 5-0

again, i agree, but i am having a tough tough time with moral victories at this point. i was looking for the mets to be world beaters from day 1 and show some guts, some (sorry to bring this word in so soon) fire….knock teams around and show some swagger….instead i see a lot of the recent past and it has me worried

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:05 pm

PLEASE don’t bring back the heart and fire comments. That is too subjective and you can see whatever you want. I saw tons of FIRE and HEART in this team already this season. FIRE and HEART don’t hit with RISP, the players do.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:14 pm

i did not even want to say it or use that word, it was more of a joke, given the past few seasons on here, but i do wish they (this may be a better choice) showed some of that 86 bravado and a had a take no prisioners attitude….if you see what i am trying to say.

you are preaching to me, though, i said it enough last season, even with everything that went down last year they still would have had the east with better execution with RISP

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:26 pm

That’s what I would have loved too, but if that was your expectation, well, it was a high expectation. It’s reasonable to believe, that over the duration of the season, we’ll get that ‘’swagger”, but starting out the gate firing takes a lot. I mean, look at ‘07. Remember how they started? What did that mean to what would occur after June 1st that year? The idea is to start out good. The Mets have started out okay. Up to this point, I could understand a little frustration, but it shouldn’t be anything over the top. We won 2 out of 3 in Cincy, which was our goal. Sure, a sweep would have been great, but that’s a high expectation. It’s high to expect any team to go in and sweep a team with good pitching. Now, in Florida, the idea is the same. Win 2 of 3. We can still do that, but it might not be as easy. It would have been nice to win this game, but we didn’t. We just have to live with that. I think we had a better chance to win this game, than last, because Ollie just didn’t have it. When you get a quality start, you believe you should be in the game. Not hitting with RISP cost us the game, but so did the middle relieving core. What we need to do is go as the plan before the season started. That plan is to get into the 8th inning with a lead as often as possible. We blew 29 saves last season. I believe we won 9 of those, so actually, we had commanding leads, in 108 games, going into the late innings of the games. If we can get quality starts out of our main 4, and our hitter’s don’t turn into a bunch of p*ssies with RISP, than setting up JJ and K-Rod won’t be too hard.

The main problem, I got right now, is Luis Castillo. I just don’t think the guy has it. Even Rey Ordonez had a more occasional hit than this guy a decade ago. It’s becoming too much. I say sign back Easley, let Tatis start, give more starts to Cora, grow a set and let Murphy go there, or hell, even call up Ramon Martinez.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:34 pm

great post

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 11:04 pm

I’m looking forward to seeing tomorrow’s game.

I’m sure Livian isn’t the savior, but if he gives us 6 2/3 solid, and we’re in the lead, I’ll be happy.

This team is too talented to leave that many runs on the table night after night.

698609 April 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

Again,the minute The Mets have a tough loss,all the fair weather fans come out of the woodwork and turn into a bunch of Chicken Littles.Typical.

People relax,I know they disappointed all of us tonight with a lack of clutch hitting and shoddy bullpen work,but lets not jump off the bridge just yet…

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:01 pm

Why not? We would not fall far, too many dead bodies underneath us. Oh well, more pie for us.

ericloz April 10, 2009 at 11:07 pm

Thank you for that, I was actually starting to get down on myself reading all the doo and gloom.

wrightstuff08 April 10, 2009 at 11:11 pm

“lets not jump off a bridge just yet” i recall a few of you guys saying that all of last year too. Game 4 counts as much as game 162. The other weakness wasnt addressed in the offseason(offense) so this will probably happen way toomany times this year. Just dont have this attitude that the Mets are better than the Phillies, Braves and Marlins when they have choked 2 years in a row. They havent won a damn thing for Mets fans to be cocky.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:15 pm

Who is saying they are? We are just saying that to panic at this point is just plain stupid. We were 2-1 going into a stadium where the other team is a good team as well and is 3-0. Why do we have to 100% win the game or we are a bad team? Did you expect to sweep them?

wrightstuff08 April 10, 2009 at 11:26 pm

trs, why is unrealistic to think the Mets shouldnt be able to sweep the freaking Marlins?? This game couldve easily been won if a couple of our big hitters come through for a change with RISP. Different year but the same results…DEJA VU. It will haunt the team and fans until they show they can consistently cash runners in. The bullpen wasnt the only problem, i said this all offseason, and we are seeing it already in ‘09.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:27 pm

Thats some sense of entitlement. So the Mets should sweep a team that some are predicting could compete for the NL EAST? The Mets should win EVERY close game?

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:07 pm

say what you want. don’t tell me what kind of fan i am. i am for them 100 percent or i would not waste my time here…i just can’t ignore the similarities to this game and many of last season. if you can fine, you will not hear me calling you a pollyanna, all i ask is you don’t do the same

CannonBoy13 April 10, 2009 at 11:07 pm

Yes but the lack of timely hitting and crappy bullpen work has been going on for the last 2 years.

reillys5 April 10, 2009 at 10:58 pm

4th game of the year–still a tough loss

played with a lot of heart – and played hard

most important thing is maine – hit 94 consistently

a lot of depth on this team to see reed come in also shef tatis cora and castro -

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 11:02 pm

Thank you.
Maine gave up only two hits – albeit 2 solo HRs.
He’s looking good, he’ll go deeper, we won’t see BP guys overused.
When you’re starter gives up just 2 runs, and you have the offense we have, you should find a way to win. And for the most part, I believe we’ll do just that.

698609 April 10, 2009 at 11:02 pm

Another note to some of you Negative Creeps out there…it was the FOURTH game of the season.If you’re going to give up on “your team” already,do it now.Real fans don’t need you around anyhow…

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 11:07 pm

you arent understanding…this also happened towards the end of last year and we all know what happened…why should we feel any different?…and not to mention the game we won 9-7..we got a lot of breaks..its still a win…but we didnt win with actual hits..we got breaks…

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:23 pm

enterkrod says:
April 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm
new season…last years stats dont even matter anymore..

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:09 pm

thanks, i am glad a “real fan” was here to lay it all out for me.

anotherDLstint April 10, 2009 at 11:03 pm

Well boys and Girls…., it’s been real… it’s been fun…. but it hasn’t been real fun…., here’s hoping that tomorrow will be a Kick… day….LETS GO METS….. carajo!!!!!!!!!

khmustache April 10, 2009 at 11:11 pm

somebody i can agree with. cya tomorrow

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 11:05 pm

I’ll just say this once:

Stop acting like the sky is falling, and get a grip on reality.

This ONE game, the FOURTH of the season does not condem.n us to 3rd place, does not mean the entire team is un-clutch, and does not mean this is 2008 all over again.

Seriously..

enterkrod April 10, 2009 at 11:08 pm

again though…how did they do with RISP at towards the end of last year?

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:22 pm

enterkrod says:
April 10, 2009 at 10:47 pm
new season…last years stats dont even matter anymore..

He he he he, oh my I make myself laugh somtimes.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:32 pm

indeed…uh, how are they with risp this season ;-)

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 11:09 pm

seriously… stop being a dick were jus talking about what happened so far. You get a grip stop being such a grandma. The seasons not over, the seasons not over blah, blah, blah. We know

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:12 pm

Sorry but why on earth would you come on THIS blog and call anyone a dick? The guy may be over reacting but so are most people on here.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 11:13 pm

I’m not being a Grandma, I am sick to death of seeing all these “the season is over” posts so early on the season. I see it on Mets.com all the time, and on here.

Oh, and hilarious with the “her” reference; did you use your 6th grade education to come up with that joke

metsfan46years April 10, 2009 at 11:14 pm

did you use your pre-k sped education to come up with that?

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 11:13 pm

You need to take it down a notch. If you’re going to give out it out, as in your own opinions, you’re going to have to be able to take it – as in others opinions. –Even when you don’t agree.

Sylar April 10, 2009 at 11:17 pm

Is this intended for me??? If so, you’re probably right… it’s just incredibly annoying to try to rationalize here when all the posts are doom and gloom. I’ll try to be less vulgar though….

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:20 pm

Sylar I think we just need to understand that at 11:00 on a Friday night after losing a game that this message board is not going to be full of rational people.

MetsFan4Decades April 10, 2009 at 11:20 pm

Absolutely not. It’s for our young fan, MetFan46

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:30 pm

my posts are not doom and gloom, it is just when they lose, more often than not it is because they did something wrong. i just try to see how they did wrong and why?

i can see the positives, even in the game tonight, but when they lose, for me i would rather try to see where the team is failing, see them try to “fix” it, change something…etc..perhaps it is not how you rationalize the game…but with all the people here there are going to be differences.

having been here the past few seasons, that is my only problem here. i see more people with the “positive spin” go out of there way to “bash” people who have a “negative spin,” even if they truly do not. i am fully aware it goes both ways, all too well, but i take offense when people make blanket statements about “doom and gloom” “fair-weather fans” “real fans.” i do not focus people out or try to tell them how to root, how to feel…etc…every one has an opinion and let’s be real, for the people that have been here and choose to come here…..in the end….WE ARE ALL FANS which i think sometimes gets forgotten.

rant over. go mets.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:15 pm

You don’t have to call anyone a dick or grandma lol Take it easy. He’s just saying people shouldn’t overreact. We’re emotional fans. I think what he’s getting at is that people complain and moan more than try to rationalize this. I know I’ve been guilty of that too though… It’s no big deal. We’re 2-2. It’s only been 4 games.

therealsince86 April 10, 2009 at 11:19 pm

That’s my point. It’s like we think that we should win EVERY game and if we lose to the 3-0 Marlins in Florida in the bottom of the 9th with a walk off hit that we are a bad team. Did you seriously expect to sweep them?

wrightstuff08 April 10, 2009 at 11:32 pm

huh??, a proper winning mentality would be going into Florida thinking you could take all three games. I bet the Phillies think they could sweep any team at any time.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:37 pm

I didn’t expect a sweep, but I think 2 out of 3 is more than reasonable. Yeah, it’s on the road, but those three Marlins wins did come against the Nats, before this game. Tip your hit to them, for winning again, but the bottom line is, we got to get tougher and win these tight ball games. What I’m afraid is, Johan gives us a really nice outing on Sunday, like 7 IP 1 ER 8 K, something like that, but we only score one run, and leave like 8 runners on. That’d bother me. I think Luis Castillo is much of the problem, and they need to grow a set and do something about it.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:55 pm

I didn’t say the team shouldn’t expected they can’t each individual game they play. What I said was, that we’re fans, and we need to rationalize. Yes, going into every game, we should root and think we can win every game, but we all know no one ever win’s every game. So, you set reasonable goals, and you try to exceed beyond that. You go for the sweep, but if you end up with 2 of 3, it’s still a good series, especially on the road.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:12 pm

At least all of our games have been close too. One thing I know we’ll keep see is exciting games.

Game one: 2-1
Game two: 9-7
Game three: 8-6
Game four: 5-4

Compare that to the Phillies and it’s totally different. They were lucky to win that one game. The first two games were somewhat close, but they looked like crap today. I still think we can win Saturday and Sunday’s game. Coming out of this series with 2 of 3, being 4-2, going back to Citi, is good. That’s what we got to aim for.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:35 pm

just saw that wagner is gunning for a july return.

thoughts on this one?

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:43 pm

Mixed feelings. On one hand, I think he really intensifies our middle relieving core, but at the same time, I don’t know if he’s got the mentality and guts to handle succeeding here. When I think of him, I think the same thing as I did with Armando Benitez. We’re paying him a lot of money, and he has more to offer us than Feliciano, so we should get as much out of him as we can. Maybe we can use him as a trade chip, come the deadline, offering to pay most to all of his salary. Maybe we can combine that with Castillo, to get him off our hands. I don’t think anyone would bite on that, but you never know.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:47 pm

yeah, i mean it all depends on how things are at the time, but if he has his stuff you would have to think he could provide something. could be an interesting situation if he keeps his schedule.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:47 pm

If Percival gets hurt again, or isn’t that effective, I could see the Rays asking about him. Maybe they’d offer us Chad Bradford, who’s due 3.6 million. The Mets could offer to pay everything beyond 3.6 million, in the same. Bradford’s the kind of reliever we could use. He’s more useful than O’Day. He’s got postseason experience and did well as a Met. I still don’t understand why Omar wanted two lefty middle relievers, three overall, going into ‘08. In ‘06, Oliver was a long reliever. It doesn’t really matter if you got a lefty or righty long reliever. Re-signing Bradford, for the same contract, or neither, would have been a better option. There’s a lot of different things the Mets could do with Wagner, if he’s healthy and looking good come July though.

nyj0126 April 10, 2009 at 11:50 pm

I know the deal wouldn’t sound fully even, looking at it from a distance, but even if Wagner does come back in July, he’s still an injury risk down the stretch. He’d give the Rays more insurace in the closer’s role. They’ve actually been looking to move Bradford, because of his salary, but haven’t had any biters because of the market. The reason I’d want Chad over him though would be because he’s got a better psyche. Billy’s turned more into a meltdown closer, but in a lesser role, he may thrive.

skylog April 10, 2009 at 11:59 pm

that is what i am thinking. if he has it together, to a lesser degree i think he could be trade bait, but with that salary it would be tough. that said, they are paying him anyway, so if he could bring something, they could more or less eat it.

even more though, i think there could be a use for the mets. it would be in that lesser role, but it could turn out to be a positive. only time will tell, but i remember him being so broken up about the injury i would love for him to come back and contribute, and i think so would he

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