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Post-Game: Mets 8 Marlins 4

By Matthew Cerrone on Apr 11, 2009, 11:59 pm

The Result:

  • The Mets defeated the Marlins, 8–4, in Miami.
  • For a full recap and boxscore, go here.

The Least You Should Know:

  • Livan Hernandez pitched 6.2 innings, allowed two earned runs, six hits, walked three and struck out four.
  • Jose Reyes hit a home run and had three RBI.
  • Luis Castillo was 4 for 4, with three runs scored.  He’s now hitting .357, a nice 257–point jump in one day. 

The Good:

  • Livan Hernandez has one of the slowest curve balls I have ever seen, just ask Cameron Maybin, who struck out on a pitch that barely reached 60 mph.  The Marlins, an aggressive, young, hitting team, fell victim to Hernandez’s patience, which I always enjoy seeing.
  • David Wright made a nice defensive play, diving to catch a line drive, then hustling to third base to get the runner for a double play.  Nice work.
  • The Mets had 15 hits in total.
  • The Marlins were the last team to be undefeated.  By the way, the last undefeated team did not win a World Series in each of the last four seasons, according to Elias.
  • The Mets were 5 for 14 with runners in scoring position, compared to 1 for 10 the night before.

The Game Ball:

  • Tonight’s game ball goes to Luis Castillo, for following up a disastrous night on Friday by taking early batting practice, going 4 for 4, and scoring three runs on Saturday.

The Next Game:

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  1. ToastyJoe
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:18 pm at 12:18 pm #

    I think the score was 8-4.

  2. BrianMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:27 pm at 12:27 pm #

    it was 8-4.
    Positives: Castillo. Can't give up ont he guy after only 3 games started. He will have his ups and downs but right now it is his 2B job. Livan looked good but was tired in the 7th. Wright got a hit with a RISP.

    Would have been nice if O'Day could have come in and closed the door. Still a god game overall. Now we need Johan to win us the series. Starting out 4-2 on the road would be very nice.

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:28 pm at 2:28 pm #

      i was arguing the exact same point last nite

  3. RockfordMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:28 pm at 12:28 pm #

    I'm a bit worried about David Wright with his Steve Sax imitation. However, it was nice to see him get an RBI, as he's gotten off to an extremely slow start this spring. I'm wondering if he's feeling a lot more pressure this year, considering all of the MVP expectations heaped on his shoulders by ESPN writers as well as the SI prediction of the Mets winning the World Series. He just looks really out of sync and pressing.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #

      I don't think so…Wright is a career .286 hitter in April coming into this season. Notice he is just late on the fastball, which is normal for opposite-field hitters this time of year. So what does he do to try and correct himself? He tries to turn on everything to get the bat through the zone faster, rather than just recognizing the pitch faster.

      Wright will be fine, don't worry. His career average in every other month of the season is above .300

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:29 pm at 2:29 pm #

      well he looked good in the field until the error in the 9th and he knocked in a run with risp so i guess he is c-lutch again ? lol

    • ClemKadiddle
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #

      It’s only been 5 games. Give it a rest or as the prospector said to his donkey, “Patience my a$$.”

      • lagranderusty10
        Apr 12, 2009, 2:47 pm at 2:47 pm #

        hey skelton we agree on something and sorry u had to see my ugly mug on t.v hope u werent eating split pea soup lol

        • ClemKadiddle
          Apr 12, 2009, 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #

          BTW I don’t get to too many games but if you see me at a game stop by and say hello. You can recognize me as the fat, old, old, old broken down man with the extremely hot wife (she’s 22 years younger than me and a former award winning gymnast in high school and she hates baseball). I already know what you look like (and yelled will someone pluck my eyes out when I saw you). lol

    • LGNYM
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:43 pm at 3:43 pm #

      He gets the MVP expectations every season and the Mets have been picked to win by people every season- this yr is really no different. He's at least finding his way on base even when he is a bit off at the plate. The throwing thing is a little concerning since he seemed to be having issues with that in ST, but he always seems to have little issues with that from time to time and then he gets over it.

      • lagranderusty10
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:47 pm at 3:47 pm #

        he will heat up – remember he started slow the last 2 years

  4. LGM09
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:31 pm at 12:31 pm #

    8-4 .. Castillo IS batting .357 … whats with the careless errors Matt

  5. JavaJoe
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:47 pm at 12:47 pm #

    Castillo doesn't deserve the game ball alone. He had a nice game but the brighter stars were Livan and Jose. Maybe split the ball three ways?

  6. Jknock19
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:50 pm at 12:50 pm #

    Wright didn't dive for the line drive on his double play either.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:27 pm at 1:27 pm #

      No but it was still a web gem, no doubt…

      • Hazmet
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:20 pm at 3:20 pm #

        Really, thank you AW. Let's gig Matt for writing about the dive in the wrong sequence of the play. Unreal. Alright, so, Wright caught the ball that was already behind him, reclutched it in his glove hand before it snow coned and then dove for the 3rd base bag and tagged it with his glove hand before the speedy Benafacio could get back to the bag to complete the double play.

        Yes, a web gem for D. Wright. And yes he's got some throwing problems we all know about.

      • lagranderusty10
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #

        saved us a run possibly

        • Hazmet
          Apr 12, 2009, 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #

          All too true, possibly a big inning. Nice work as usual today Rusty. Enjoyed your philly post. Have a happy holiday weekend. Gotta sign off to get ready for the In-Laws. Chow.

  7. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:54 pm at 12:54 pm #

    Im sorry Matt but when you screw up the score thats just not good.

  8. cl13dalb
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:56 pm at 12:56 pm #

    dont knock on matt….enjoy what he gives us

  9. mike
    Apr 12, 2009, 12:57 pm at 12:57 pm #

    you guys are awful,give the guy a break, typos happen…if you logged on this morn and there was no recap, youd be whining about that too!

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:01 pm at 1:01 pm #

      There wasn't a recap? Well in that case I am once again sorry. No offense, Matt.

      • BrianMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 1:11 pm at 1:11 pm #

        I usually don't enjoy knocking someone either, but I think this site is starting to got oo corporate instead of what it was intended to be.

        yeah, I know. I don't need to read it but lately, I've felt like I should be looking into other blogs. I liked this site so much when Matt was doing it because he wanted to. now it seems as if this is his job and his heart isn't into it anymore.

        it seems like he spends more time trying to change the format so that more sponsorships can come in instead of just using what worked for years and putting the time into the content.

        I really do hate to criticize but it is clear that the time spent on this blog is no longer into the content.

        • ProudMetsFan
          Apr 12, 2009, 1:18 pm at 1:18 pm #

          I geuss I agree with you in part. But I and a few others probably have the same question: What do you mean by too corparate? He moved the posts to the left. And I wouldnt say that IntenseDebate is corparate. So help me out here.

          • BrianMetsFan
            Apr 12, 2009, 1:25 pm at 1:25 pm #

            all the SNY clips, the video feeds, etc. I know this is now his job but I think I prefer a blog done for pleasure where it is basic and about the content and works.

            in the end, I am going to keep coming here because the positives outweigh the negatives but I don't enjoy this blog as much as I used to when it was just basic, bare bones FOR THE FANS.

            I'm sure I'm in the minority.

            • beltran the warrior
              Apr 12, 2009, 2:18 pm at 2:18 pm #

              instead of complaining about matt, it's not hard to start your own blog to see how much effort, dedication and time it takes to keep one running.

              • BrianMetsFan
                Apr 12, 2009, 2:37 pm at 2:37 pm #

                I don't have time to have my own blog which is why I read other blogs. I have a full time job and work many hours. since this is Matt's full time job, I am voicing my opinion. I am sure many people agree with me and many disagree. it's just an opinion and it was stated very respectfully.

                if I had a blog as my job, I would take feedback seriously.

                remember Joe D's quote about he played hard every day because it may be some little kid's first time seeing him play and he wanted him to walk away with a good impression? well I have read this blog for years and will come back because of what has been here years. However, if I just started reading this blog, I probably wouldn't be coming back.

                Stop thinking every negative comment is someone trolling. This blog has been very sloppy lately.

                • beltran the warrior
                  Apr 12, 2009, 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #

                  who said anything about trolling? someone's sensitive. there are plenty of people who agree and there are plenty who disagree. i come here for the news and understand this is pretty much one guy doing the blog so i'm not going to complain.

                  you think espn.com gets everything right? try sending them a complaint and see if you even get a response back.

            • grandslamsingle
              Apr 12, 2009, 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #

              hope you hated all those horribly corporate, painfully insightful, pointless clips from spring training too!

            • ericloz
              Apr 12, 2009, 4:52 pm at 4:52 pm #

              It would seem that a lot of people don't like what Matt is doing; however they still come here to read, post and find links to other sites.

              I personally like the site, but I bear in mind that this is a personal blog and read it as such, nothing more, nothing less.

              The reason I keep coming back is because I like what he writes and prefer to find all of the links in one place vice searching myself.

              Thank you Matt, keep up the good work.

              **This is a paid endorsement :-)

          • groverland1
            Apr 12, 2009, 10:18 am at 10:18 am #

            Moving the posts to the left makes the site much better for those of us who use blackberrys and other phones. With the old format we would have to scroll down forever to read posts. Much better now. —–and please mets fans-give Castillo a break-if he goes 0-4 today he will get booed monday. Don’t judge day by day. He will be fine.

  10. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #

    ESPN is really stinking it up. Top ten plays they had #7 Bonafacio's inside the park 2R HR and #6 was a catch by a fan.

    • Benny
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #

      ESPN sucks

  11. joe
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:00 pm at 1:00 pm #

    this comment setup is awful!! everytime i refreshed last night comments go back to page 1. annoying to say the least

  12. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:02 pm at 1:02 pm #

    Im sorry I did not know that there wasn't a recap so I whole heartedly apoligize to Matt.

  13. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:04 pm at 1:04 pm #

    You guys have so may problems with this format. Honest to God, I am not having the problems it sounds like you are having.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:28 pm at 1:28 pm #

      Me neither. I just have a bit of a tough time finding my comments, but I can read replies by checking my e-mail, which I like.

      • The Slider
        Apr 12, 2009, 5:30 pm at 5:30 pm #

        Isn't it more important to be able to find your comment(s) so you can see what the other's responses are to what you had to say? That's the whole point of blogging on this site …. we i do love …. IF MATT WOULD JUST STOP TINKERING WITH IT!

  14. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:08 pm at 1:08 pm #

    Looking at the twitter feed I'm assuming the InstenseDebate format was put up for more streamlined use with mobile devices. And it looks like that was a failed experiment. It's not the best format for blogging on your PC either so I'm hoping he moves on to something else.
    Only way I could even see all comments last night during the game was to use the Last Activity sort. Refresh doesn't work at all with this format…..

    Hopefully, Johan gets it done today and we go home 4-2 on this first road trip.
    LGM !!

  15. charlie_s
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:12 pm at 1:12 pm #

    Food for thought: if the Mets go 3-2 in every five game segment this season, they will finish with a 97-65 record.

    It was nice to go to a Mets game at Dolphin stadium last night with almost 40,000 people, by the way. The crowd was actually electric and it was great to hear the silence from the Marlins fans, who were extremely obnoxious on Friday night and early in the game Saturday night. Way to shut up the fishy fans!

    My favorite part of the night was when a Marlins fan asked me, "besides the Marlins, who is the Mets greatest rival?" I had to laugh at the guy. Not in an abnoxious way, but it was kind of pathetic the way he asked.

    • methead
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:37 pm at 1:37 pm #

      But….its the Marlin's stadium. They have the right to be obnoxious. LOL

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #

      You should have asked him, "So besides when the Mets are in town, how many times do you guys get more than 500 in attendance here?"

      • sellitman
        Apr 12, 2009, 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #

        ****Ding*****Ding……..we have a winner!

      • charlie_s
        Apr 12, 2009, 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #

        I actually did say something to that effect. I basically said that how could a Met fan take the team or its fan base seriously when they don't themselves. The biggest crowds they get all year are when the Mets and Cubs are in town. And, that it was kind of sad that they had a crowd larger than opening day last night because of the Mets and Flo Rida.

        Basically, the Marlins fans have two things to say. The first is that they have won two world series since 1997. The second is that they have ended the Mets season two years in a row.

        And, then it's on to looking at the Mermaids and Manatees…

        This is the worst sports town in the country.

  16. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:15 pm at 1:15 pm #

    If it is true that Matt started using InteseDebate so people could comment easier using their mobile device, then I want to let Matt know that it doesn't work at all. I have an LG Voyager and I tried to post a comment last night, and nothing was working. 95% of the time I comment using my computer, and quite frankly I am not hating the IntenseDebate like you guys are. But it has zero use when you want to comment on a mobile device. Old format was way easier using a mobile device. That being said, I thing we should still try getting used to this because I personally like it more than not, so we should just give it a chance. I think you will all get used to it within the week.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:34 pm at 1:34 pm #

      Look at his Twitter Feed to the right of the comments. You'll see his note on trying to getit working on mobile devices and having no success.

    • The Slider
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #

      I don't like this new format. I can't follow it. Yeah, I know …. duh

  17. Endy's_Catch
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:19 pm at 1:19 pm #

    It really pains me to see Wright throw away a routine grounder….it's really getting old. b

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:22 pm at 1:22 pm #

      But Delgado was a bit lazy on the play also.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:30 pm at 1:30 pm #

      Me too. But I tell you what, I can live with one of those every 3 or 4 games if he continues to save runs with his glove as well…

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:33 pm at 2:33 pm #

      there was enough blame to go around on that play – i do feel to an extent that the marlins are in davids head

    • 911nafstem
      Apr 12, 2009, 4:36 pm at 4:36 pm #

      He's not a gold glove third baseman just like Jeter is not a gold glove shortstop. His arm is just plain weak for that position. And to all the people out there who attack anyone who says anything bad about Wright, he's a very good player, he's just a little overrated, that's all

  18. Xavier22
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:21 pm at 1:21 pm #

    Watching Livan pitch you can definitely tell he is related to El Duque. That curve of his is his version of El Duque's patented epheus pitch. He looks like he'll be a great 5th starter and a nice placeholder until Niese is ready. Kudos to Omar for the get.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 1:32 pm at 1:32 pm #

      Ha! And just think, when we signed him everybody on here moaned and groaned. If we get quality starts like that from him 2/3 of the time, this team is going to do very well. It is so much easier on Johan handing him the ball on a winning streak, something we almost never did last season. He was always the guy who had to get us back on track. Now he can just pitch.

      Of course, it was just one outing, so in fairness to Pelfrey and Ollie, I'll wait a couple more outings before jumping on the "Livan is Great" bandwagon, lol

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 1:39 pm at 1:39 pm #

        Yes, I think he will do very well for us this year.

        I remember when he was acquired, he didnt have proof of of his birth date or something. Everyone was like "Hes 50 Hes 50!"

      • Mr. Gee21
        Apr 12, 2009, 1:47 pm at 1:47 pm #

        Yep. I'd like to say we are all set in the 5 spot, but it has just been one week. We should wait to see how Livan does against a team that is less aggressive.

        That being said, last night was a great start!

  19. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:43 pm at 1:43 pm #

    Outside The Lines just had a really good story on the two new staduims, and how prices are going to be ridiculous. Very interesting.

  20. Mike Olivo
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:49 pm at 1:49 pm #

    So the fifth starter and scrap heap pickup outpitches the 13m dollar enigma, the future ace (hopefully), and the fastball machine john maine….im afraid for the rest of this season.

    • grandslamsingle
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #

      my hopes are that maine, and pelfery spend time with livan, and learn how to better relax their minds while pitching. i also have these hopes for ollie, however, it seems that it'll take a mastermind to break through his thought process. maine, pelfrey, and ollie all have the raw tools necessary to be dominant, it's all about blind confidence for them. once they cast aside their doubts, they will be better than average.

  21. joe
    Apr 12, 2009, 1:50 pm at 1:50 pm #

    maybe i m using it wrong. Do you guys have to refesh to see new comments and then scroll to the bottom?

  22. metterman
    Apr 12, 2009, 9:51 am at 9:51 am #

    I’ve never been one to rip gm’s for minor league contracts because it’s huge ceilings with no risk. But I did laugh when I first saw this signing because I thought there was zero chance that baby duque would see any time with this. Well I was wrong. I’m not annointing him the savior, but if you saw his numbers with innings pitched and starts made over the past 3 years (1st and 2nd respectively) this guy is the definition of consistent. A huge portion of us love to rip omar but this was a solid move. I don’t expect this too often this year, because the marlins are livan’s dream team to ptich against, but I really think he may remain on this starting staff all year. He’s the perfect 5th starter becuase he will never be spectacular, but he will give us a chance to win every start. He is the anti oliver perez.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:08 pm at 2:08 pm #

      The two teams that have hurt us the most in the last two seasons are the Marlins and Nationals. Both are free-swingers at the plate, and both are likely to look silly against Livan Hernandez. Livan was even getting away with mistakes over the plate last night, that's how fooled the Fish were.

      • Nate W.
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:21 pm at 3:21 pm #

        While I like what he can do against those two teams you do have to be careful to not overexpose him to teams he might face more often. I will be looking for Livan to face non-division opponents when he can, because he will only see them once or twice in the year. Keep his deception a little more useful by not having 5 or 6 starts against the Marlins. But I agree with your point.

        • lagranderusty10
          Apr 12, 2009, 3:25 pm at 3:25 pm #

          btw anyone know how freddy garcia is doin?

  23. Joe R
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:00 pm at 2:00 pm #

    I like Livan, He did an awesome job last night and hes a nice Number 5 but he will not give us a chance to win every start. There will be plenty of games hes given up 5 runs before the 3rd inning. With that said its nice to see him throw strikes and remain so poised and calm on the mound. Gary Cohen even said MASTERFUL at one point last night lol. Wow really?? Keth said the Pete Rose comparison again with Murphy. Can we wait to at least the all star break and see if hes hitting .290 .300 before we annoint him. I do love his swing and patience. Nice hitter.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #

      I don't think he meant that he is the next Pete Rose, but rather that his approach and swing remind him of Pete Rose…

      • Joe R
        Apr 12, 2009, 2:13 pm at 2:13 pm #

        The way Keith said it was comparing him to Pete Rose I believe. He said it after Murphy did something well at the plate. He was like "Im telling you this guy reminds me of Pete Rose" something like that lol.

  24. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #

    I only have 2 problems with this format:

    1) The number of pages gets screwed up from time to time.

    2) It says there are 3 replies to a comment but I only see 1

    And maybe that it doesnt update in real time but that doesnt really bug me.

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #

      it bugs me man – who wants to refresh every 3 seconds after making a post? plus sometimes i dont know if my comments were banned or not cuz it doesnt make it to the screen for a minute or 2 sometimes

    • Mets5rocks
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #

      I'm not one to complain, but this format in it's current state is by far the worst format I have ever seen on any blog period! The comments appear and disappear, it says there are many pages of comments, yet half the time it only shows you 2!

      • Mets5rocks
        Apr 12, 2009, 2:38 pm at 2:38 pm #

        God forbid you want to get back to your comment and see if anyone responded! And the email response thing, while a nice idea in theory I had to turn it off because everytime I turn it on it emails me EVERYTIME ANYONE POSTS ANYTHING ON THE PAGE WHETHER IT'S IN RESPONSE TO MY COMMENT OR NOT! So after 104 e-mails in a 4 hour span I had enough of the emailing feature! Matt I realy do love your blog and the work you put in it is appreciated, but this format simply has to go! I'm getting to the point of going back to the mets.com comments section, because quite frankly it's alot easier to navigate! I really hate to leave, because I do enjoy the banter and mostly well- thought out debates on here from some very knowledgeable Met fans, but when I start missing 2/3 of an inning on tv just trying to find my comment again(on a laptop right in front of me mind you) it's getting a little rediculous. I didn't even turn it on for last nights game because it was too much hassle! Please go back to the old format, or atleast shelve this format untill you can get ALL the bugs worked out! ……………………….Sincerely a metsblog fan

        • MetsFan4Decades
          Apr 12, 2009, 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #

          More or less have to agree – all though I niver turnedonthe email feature – have no interest. Trying to navigate this blog last night during the game was awful. I too kept missing plays b/c I was spending entirely too much time trying to find disappearing comments, refreshing, signing out/back in, etc.
          I love this site, love the info, the links and especially debating baseball with my fellow Met fans. But this new format makes participating on the comments section just about impossible….

          • lagranderusty10
            Apr 12, 2009, 2:48 pm at 2:48 pm #

            good morning 4 decAdes happy easter or passover or whatever you are celebrating

            • MetsFan4Decades
              Apr 12, 2009, 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #

              It would be Easter for me and back at you, Rusty.

              • Mets5rocks
                Apr 12, 2009, 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #

                Happy Easter Rusty and 4 decades!

                • lagranderusty10
                  Apr 12, 2009, 2:55 pm at 2:55 pm #

                  happy easter mets5rocks and thankyou ms 4decades lol

                  • Mets5rocks
                    Apr 12, 2009, 3:06 pm at 3:06 pm #

                    Are you as frustrated with this comments section as I am? What's with the follow feature I keep seeing?

                • MetsFan4Decades
                  Apr 12, 2009, 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #

                  Same to you, Sir!

                  • lagranderusty10
                    Apr 12, 2009, 3:05 pm at 3:05 pm #

                    damn i think we got a love fest going – quick someone play some b 52's lol

                    • ProudMetsFan
                      Apr 12, 2009, 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #

                      God I hate that band Rusty.

                    • ProudMetsFan
                      Apr 12, 2009, 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #

                      Love Shack worst song ever.

                    • lagranderusty10
                      Apr 12, 2009, 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #

                      lol im more of a hard rock / metal jazz punk kinda guy but it seemed to fit better than slayer as the ultimate party band lol

  25. Richie Ashburn
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:09 pm at 2:09 pm #

    Do you know baseball is a marathon. When one makes all these determinations on one game, one demonstrates a total failure to understand the game.

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:32 pm at 2:32 pm #

      u mean like philliy fans getting into a brawl while the world series pennent is being raised?

  26. number15
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:18 pm at 2:18 pm #

    the recap notes wright's nice play in the field. it fails to mention that he threw away a ball that was pretty much as routine as you get. honestly, i don't care that he makes some incredible diving plays. his throws are consistently horrendous and the fact that he has gold gloves is a complete joke imo

    • hjhjhjhjhj
      Apr 13, 2009, 1:58 pm at 1:58 pm #

      well frankly you are a joke too….we all know here that you don t like the guy so why no just change your name to I hate DW….would make things a lot more simple

  27. number15
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:19 pm at 2:19 pm #

    i disagree. it's not as if he had to really stretch on that play. the ball was to him, but he just didn't scoop it cuz it was a terrible throw that was skipping on the ground

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:46 pm at 3:46 pm #

      True, but it was the second time already that Delgado could not come up with the scoop. Mostly though it was a bad play by David.

  28. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #

    johan will lose today

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #

      spoken like a true phillie lover – do you come up with these witty quips all by yourself or does mommy hold your hand and dictate it to you while you are typing?

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:26 pm at 3:26 pm #

        Rusty dont mind this fool as you can see it really is not me. I belive it is the Sanchez kid from yesterday who kept yelling out MIKE TOOK STEROIDS and MIKE IS GAY. Totally worthless this guy is.

        • lagranderusty10
          Apr 12, 2009, 3:37 pm at 3:37 pm #

          no prob man i figured it couldnt be u – how did he get access to your name?

          • ProudMetsFan
            Apr 12, 2009, 3:50 pm at 3:50 pm #

            Its another glitch with the Intense debate. If you dont sign up you can use any user name any time you comment, including one that is already taken by someone with an account.

  29. D_Murphy
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:23 pm at 2:23 pm #

    "Livan Hernandez has one of the slowest curve balls I have ever seen, just ask Cameron Maybin, who struck out on a pitch that barely reached 60 mph."
    This reminded me of El Duque and a game I once went to at Shea, when he struck out a guy on a 55 mph pitch. Kinda amazing.

  30. lagranderusty10
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:27 pm at 2:27 pm #

    good morning my friends its time for an easter sunday edition of "this day in mets infamy" so lets get hunting for the peeps and licorice jellybeans shall we – mmmm licorice jellybeans (rusty likes)

    first off b-daywishes go out to brooklyn born / az raised steroid cheat Paul "where the 15 year olds at? "Lo Duca (1972)
    Danny "damn i fell off the face of the earth" Garcia (1980)
    Transactions:
    New York Mets signed free agent Ralph "malph" Terry on April 12, 1967.

    New York Mets signed free agent Jesus "uncle of holy moises " Alou on April 12, 1975.

    New York Mets signed free agent Dyar "dyer maker?" Miller on April 12, 1980. – he was a decent middle relief pitcher for us that year as i recall but i guess cashen felt otherwise

    New York Mets traded Julio Valera and Julian Vasquez to the California Angels for Dick Schofield on April 12, 1992.

    • Nate W.
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:23 pm at 3:23 pm #

      Dick Schofield, one in a long line of over the hill middle infielders the Mets kept on trading for a few years too late during the 90's. Good think Alfonso came along eventually…

      • lagranderusty10
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:28 pm at 3:28 pm #

        dont forget larry bowa and tommy herr were mets too lol

  31. Justin_B
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #

    "Livan Hernandez has one of the slowest curve balls I have ever seen, just ask Cameron Maybin, who struck out on a pitch that barely reached 60 mph. The Marlins, an aggressive, young, hitting team, fell victim to Hernandez’s patience, which I always enjoy seeing."

    He throws the eephus just like his half brother… except El Duque use to defy gravity and throw it in the 50's. I remember being at a game where he registered 56 on the gun.

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 2:41 pm at 2:41 pm #

      hey maybe its me drinkin the livan kool aid but he looked like what a 5th starter should look like – he gave up a few hits a few walks and a few strike outs giving 6 and 2/3 innings of work so he did his job and he did it well

  32. Hernandez_1B
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:50 pm at 2:50 pm #

    Good win last night. Livan's start was huge and very much needed. I'm still a little worried about how Jerry is handing the pen. He is already using them way to much. That might come back to bite us later in the year.

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm #

      pedro only pitched to 1 batter yesterday putz wasnt used and frankie only needed to get 2 outs – this isnt one of those 7 relief pitcher affairs like the ollie gamn

      • Hernandez_1B
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:56 pm at 3:56 pm #

        Agreed but I still think he wasted Stokes. Either keep him in or bring in pedro to start. I'm also referring to the season as a whole, just not last nights game.

  33. reillys5
    Apr 12, 2009, 2:59 pm at 2:59 pm #

    matt…i love the blog and continue to come here multiple times a day…but dont make up a time of 11:59 because i was here at 3 am and it wasnt up — otherwise great all around win for the mets — it was one of those that we lose last year right before a santana start that made his start a must win.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:03 pm at 3:03 pm #

      I think it's been commented before that some of the post are written earlier with a delayed post time, hence the fact that you didn't see it at 3am but time says it was posted around midnight.

      • reillys5
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #

        ah i see…thanks for the heads up — now lets go win this game!!

        • lagranderusty10
          Apr 12, 2009, 3:07 pm at 3:07 pm #

          yup lets reel in the fish gut em and fry em !!!

          • reillys5
            Apr 12, 2009, 3:15 pm at 3:15 pm #

            going home 4-2 is a big deal…at least to me it is…i want to win as many games early so theres not as much pressure late – in 06 we started 10-2 in the first 12…if we can go 8-4 id be thrilled

            • lagranderusty10
              Apr 12, 2009, 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm #

              preaching to the choir reilys5

        • MetsFan4Decades
          Apr 12, 2009, 3:24 pm at 3:24 pm #

          Yup, Johan ptiches strong and we come home with a 4-2 road trip. Would be a very good start.

          • ProudMetsFan
            Apr 12, 2009, 3:39 pm at 3:39 pm #

            I just want to win the Home Opener. It symbolizes that winning will be a tradition at Citi Field.

            • lagranderusty10
              Apr 12, 2009, 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #

              you mean jackie robinson memorial stadium lol – im kidding im kidding

              • ProudMetsFan
                Apr 12, 2009, 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #

                Oh really they are are changing the name?

  34. lagranderusty10
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:16 pm at 3:16 pm #

    guy got this from were the team to beat enejoy lol

    Wednesday’s ring ceremony is a few days old now, but still receiving plenty of media attention. Yeah, Adam Eaton got booed. Yeah, it was probably unnecessary but that’s how things are done in Philly as we’ve showcased so many times (Santa, snowballs, WS Game 5 Post-game, etc., etc.). It should’ve been water under the bridge but elephants never forget and apparently neither do Phillies fans, even in light of our World Series celebration. Ehh, whatever. Being a Phillies fan wouldn’t be so much more fun if it wasn’t for moments like this. It’s our identity and I enjoy it. Sorry. However I must say that Phillies fans have got to stop getting upset when people complain about our behavior. Because, I’ve got to be honest, we deserve it. Acting like this is fun, but it comes with criticism and we’ve got to accept that.

  35. bkfitz
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:18 pm at 3:18 pm #

    I can't access the site with FireFox. I think it's because of this intensedebate.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:22 pm at 3:22 pm #

      I can access it with Firefox, but using refresh, it eventually gets hosed (no comment shows) so I have to sign out and back in. I've reverted back to I.E. for now, which it's not my preference…..

  36. Charlie in Delray
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:27 pm at 3:27 pm #

    Hi,

    Here in Florida, last night's game was NOT televised locally (usually it would be, on Sun Sports aka Fox Sports Florida). And I know about the Fox national blackout to 7 PM Saturday.

    So what I don't understand then was why SNY was blacked out in Florida for the entire game?

    Anyone know?

    I thought a SNY satellite blackout "out of market" was to protect either a) the Fox national deal or b) a "local" station showing the game.

    But last night neither was the case, it seems to me. What am I missing?

    Thanks,

    Charlie in Delray Beach, FL

    PS: A lot of folks at the local sports bar were annoyed – Mets and Marlins fans – when this game could not be seen last night.

    PPS: I attended the Friday night game in person so no rants about "why don't I just go to the game", please.

    Thanks!

    ===

    Sun Sports (Fox Sports Florida) schedule for Saturday April 11:

    http://www.sunsportstv.com/schedule_fsn.jhtml?method=dis...

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:40 pm at 3:40 pm #

      wish i could tell u from what we know up here its cuz the marlins wanted the flo-rida concert to go on and not to break curfew and u know fox won't let a competeing entity broadcast – since they have "exclusive rights " to that time slot – so we both got screwed

    • CFByrne
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #

      I made this post as a first-timer – and did it before I had a login. I also checked "Notify me of follow-up comments". Now I am getting emails any time anyone comments on ANY post here.

      Anyone know how I can disable this? (I've now created an account – but of course it doesn't "know" that I was also the "original poster".

      • MetsFan4Decades
        Apr 12, 2009, 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #

        Click on the Edit Profile option and on your profile page at the bottom right there are two options for emails you can turn off.

    • Charlie in Delray
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #

      OK thanks – I'll see if that stops the email notifications. Sorry for the dumb newbie move!

  37. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:29 pm at 3:29 pm #

    I actually really enjoy this site.

  38. lagranderusty10
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:30 pm at 3:30 pm #

    u 2 my frind – saw my inlaws yesterday – seein some friends tonite

  39. lagranderusty10
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:33 pm at 3:33 pm #

    ok guys as per mlbtr
    According to MLB.com's Todd Zolecki, the Phillies have no immediate plans to add another bench player.

    "We're always looking to improve, but nothing is imminent," Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said Saturday. The Phils appear content with their current list of reserves, a group that consists of Greg Dobbs, Matt Stairs, Eric Bruntlett, Chris Coste and Miguel Cairo. Amaro was thought to be on the hunt for a right-handed hitter, but he'll apparently stand pat for now.
    The Phillies, as you'll probably remember, were one of the first teams to express serious interest in Gary Sheffield before he signed with the Mets.

    lets breathe a sigh of relief now

  40. lagranderusty10
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:42 pm at 3:42 pm #

    from matts twitter account
    Thanks for the feedback in yet another failed attempt at a mobile version if MetsBlog. 0 for 102, for those keeping score. lol – i think we will be going back to the most recent incarnation of the posting system again

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:54 pm at 3:54 pm #

      Aww.. too bad..when I was just starting to like it.

      • lagranderusty10
        Apr 12, 2009, 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #

        lol something tells me intense debate will be kinda like herpes- it always comes back lol

    • fxcarden
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #

      What a silly thing to do………just because people whine and moan about the old format, it doesn't mean you shouldn't go forward with something different that at least has the potential to be better in the long run.

      • MetsFan4Decades
        Apr 12, 2009, 4:00 pm at 4:00 pm #

        I don't think the complaints are based on not wanting change. I think, like me, if you're going to make a change, it should be for the better – not taking steps backwords.
        From what I'm reading it's not that all don't like the new format and it's options – the problem is it just isn't working at all for most. Refresh not working, doesn't play well with Firefox, freezes many browsers, comments posted disappear, only to reappear several minutes later, trying to get to the latest comments alternately tells you there are 15 pages, then 10, then 16, then 11, etc. etc.

        I'm all for improvements. I would have no problem with IntenseDebate if it worked well on tihs site.

        • fxcarden
          Apr 12, 2009, 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #

          I am an IT professional, and it seems to me that Matt didn't have a real chance to test out the new system, so he brought it online with fingers crossed. I agree there are bugs, but they all appear to be fixable bugs. I wish Matt would give the system some time to settle down prior to pulling the plug.

  41. LGNYM
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:51 pm at 3:51 pm #

    Write your comment here…

    • lagranderusty10
      Apr 12, 2009, 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #

      lets not and say we did

      • LGNYM
        Apr 12, 2009, 4:17 pm at 4:17 pm #

        Hahaha. I was trying just to register my account with this new fancy system…didn't think it would let me send out a blank message

  42. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 3:55 pm at 3:55 pm #

    I'll bet that SNY total blackout out of the NY metro area was a mistake.
    First game televised at Citi Field with Boston, I couldn't get the feed to stream from my cable company onto my PC – only on my TVs. And I'm in the Metro area and have never had that problem with SNY before. All subsequent games have been O.K.

    Technology….sometimes it leaves something to be desired…

  43. Ryan
    Apr 12, 2009, 4:06 pm at 4:06 pm #

    Is that Post Game Podcast only on weeknights or what?

  44. SCZA
    Apr 12, 2009, 4:11 pm at 4:11 pm #

    Little known side effect of the stupid decision to move yesterday's game to 6:10, The Extra Innings package, which had the game on the schedule at 7 until late Friday – pulled it overnight, so instead of starting late, it NEVER AIRED AT ALL. The Marlins decision screwed every out-of-market Mets fan from seeing what looks to be a pretty good game. Yet another reason to hate them.

  45. zen
    Apr 12, 2009, 4:15 pm at 4:15 pm #

    Fitting that on Easter, Ryan Church leads the team in hits, total bases, avg, and ops.

    Happy Easter or Passover to those who are religious. For the rest, at least Peeps are available now.

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 4:19 pm at 4:19 pm #

      Gotta have my peeps.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 4:22 pm at 4:22 pm #

      Ha! Peeps are available now….
      Happy Holiday to you too.

  46. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 4:59 pm at 4:59 pm #

    no pregame post?

  47. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #

    whre's the pregame Mike?

  48. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:00 pm at 5:00 pm #

    where's the pregame Mike?

  49. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:04 pm at 5:04 pm #

    Did you just see Cora sneaking up on Johan and hugging him? It was a little… erm.. odd.

  50. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:07 pm at 5:07 pm #

    i really don't like chip carreys voice

  51. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #

    gotta love that marlins d

  52. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:12 pm at 5:12 pm #

    Thats like the fifth time this series that the marlins couldnt get the out at first.

  53. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #

    Its looks like its just you and me kh.

    • khmustache
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:19 pm at 5:19 pm #

      easter for ya…i think mf4d is here though

  54. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:16 pm at 5:16 pm #

    Perfect throw gets him.

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:18 pm at 5:18 pm #

      Hooray MF4D you are here I thought it was jst kh and I.

      • MetsFan4Decades
        Apr 12, 2009, 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #

        I'm here, yes. Probably many checked in, saw now pre game thread and left….

  55. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:17 pm at 5:17 pm #

    Lets do this thang, Johan.

  56. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #

    great throw wright

  57. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #

    Wow for once we got Bonafacio out.

  58. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:21 pm at 5:21 pm #

    JOHAN

  59. The Slider
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #

    Where's the game thread?

    • khmustache
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #

      hidden in an egg somewhere

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #

        I hate egg hunts

  60. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:22 pm at 5:22 pm #

    Well, there was many a time last season where pre game threads were a hit or miss on Sundays.

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:28 pm at 5:28 pm #

      I was not aware of that but I wont blow up here considering its a hloiday.

  61. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:23 pm at 5:23 pm #

    Nice inning.

  62. QueenstoSF
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:24 pm at 5:24 pm #

    Does anyone know how I can watch the game online other than paying $90 to MLb

  63. charlevoix
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:33 pm at 5:33 pm #

    i'm watching this game on mlb.com out of market. any way i can get this feed with the mets announcers instead of the miami channel?

    • The Slider
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:36 pm at 5:36 pm #

      No. You must suffer with the rest of us outside the NY market.

  64. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #

    uggla looked turrible there

  65. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #

    crap…he never had a bead on it

  66. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:38 pm at 5:38 pm #

    Ugh, that was not good, Murphy….

    • notonyourradar
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #

      that should be the difference in the game right there.

  67. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #

    ugh…2 out walk and a stupid error…comes back to bite everytime

  68. fxcarden
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:40 pm at 5:40 pm #

    Murphy = trade bait for Halladay

    • Metsfan46years
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #

      You know you guys you just doesnt make one head-in-your-ass play and then you trade him. but if we lose this game by 1 or 2 runs, and he doesnt redeem himself at the plate; Murph shoud get benched

  69. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:41 pm at 5:41 pm #

    Thanks a lot Murphy, you just cost the team 2 runs…

  70. The Slider
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:44 pm at 5:44 pm #

    Well, who didn't think THAT would happen with Murph in LF? Can you imagine what Tatis would have done with that fly ball. He makes Murph look like a gold glover.

  71. Metsfan46years
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:45 pm at 5:45 pm #

    what happened to the pregame post?

  72. Metsfan46years
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:46 pm at 5:46 pm #

    And Johnson just turned into Dwight Gooden… aahh

  73. mags
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:47 pm at 5:47 pm #

    put sheff in left if not tomorrow, then weds. church is way too hot to take out and obviously we need his arm in right. bat castillo 2nd and sheffield 7th, great lineup. DONT SLEEP ON THIS JERRY

  74. reillys5
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #

    i hate most met fans…like with a passion sometime – trade murphy? lol you people are too much…so stupid sometimes

    • khmustache
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #

      but he made an error!!!!

      (tongue firmly in cheek btw)

    • Metsfan46years
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:53 pm at 5:53 pm #

      I wrote the same thing. You dont trade a star, young player after one error. Please. Come on get real

    • mags
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #

      im not saying trade murphy but how exactly has he earned a spot as an everyday player over church? it seems ridiculous to me that they'll take out church to play sheffield when you have someone who is essentially a rookie who obviously needs more practice fielding with a guaranteed starting spot… his bat's not THAT good is it?

      • MetFansSuck
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #

        yea and sheff who hasnt played the outfield in years is gonna do better…..

        man we talk about phillie fans being dumb, and we have a bunch of our own here being dumb as hell.

        and his bat is that good genius. go watch some baseball….

        • mags
          Apr 12, 2009, 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #

          LOL no point arguing with a name like that! actually i did watch murphy go 0-4 today, genius!

      • MetsFan4Decades
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #

        Yes, so far last year and this his bat is good. You really think Sheff is going produce more hits than Murph will? Only plus for him is his power but come on, he hit like 225 last year.
        I don't think Sheff should be replacing either of the corner outfielders.

      • oleosmirf
        Apr 12, 2009, 10:43 pm at 10:43 pm #

        blasphemy

  75. Metsfan46years
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:52 pm at 5:52 pm #

    whoa! hanley just missed one. Oh my god

  76. Metsfan46years
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:55 pm at 5:55 pm #

    i dont get the order of last activity. There are some posts from hours ago at the top. some of the most recent are at the top too. I dont get it. How is it organized?

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #

      What I'm doing is rather than using refresh, I use the 'Last Activity' option after getting to the last page of posts. Not the best, but it will then put the last posts up top to read. You'll still have to scroll down to the bottom then to type a new comment.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #

      And when you use 'last activity' as your sort, the reason you're seeing posts from hours ago at the top is b/c someone just recently responded to it so it's the latest and greatest. You can tell b/c next to X replies, you'll see something like 'active 1 minute ago'.

  77. charlevoix
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:56 pm at 5:56 pm #

    can someone help me with the comment sections please? i want to refresh the comments, it takes me all the way back to the start of the thread, then i have to click my way to page 8. any way to refresh the comments and have it take me directly to the last comment made? thanks for the assistance ….

    • khmustache
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:57 pm at 5:57 pm #

      i've been clicking on the previous page every so often instead of refreshing.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:00 pm at 6:00 pm #

      What I'm doing is, I sign in, get to the last page of posts. Then, instead of refreshing b/c that's not working at all for me, I keep clicking 'Last Activity' sort. That at least will show you the last posts at the top of the page you're on. You will still have to scroll down to the comment box though to add a new comment.

      • charlevoix
        Apr 12, 2009, 6:13 pm at 6:13 pm #

        thx.

        • MetsFan4Decades
          Apr 12, 2009, 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #

          And as I told someone else, it might appear 'last activity' is not working b/c older posts show up on top, but if you look next the 'x replies', you'll see something like 'active 2 minutes ago' so in actuality, that is the latest and greatest – b/c someone replied to an earlier comment.

  78. Metsfan46years
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:59 pm at 5:59 pm #

    My god Wright. Do you still remember that when you go up to the plate you use the thing you have in your hands.

  79. Metsfan46years
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:01 pm at 6:01 pm #

    I wish Matt would actually read some of the comments. Maybe we could go on strike from this format

  80. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:04 pm at 6:04 pm #

    is it just me, or does johan look p**sed out there?

    • Metsfan46years
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:05 pm at 6:05 pm #

      Murph

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #

        Johan is probably really pissed cause of that bone headed play.

        • oleosmirf
          Apr 12, 2009, 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #

          how dare you criticize Murphy. He's the best young hitter ever and is an above average fielder too

  81. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #

    Come on. Johan pitching a gem. Would be a scoreless game right now if not for the error. Time to get to Johnson or get that pitch count up so we can get to their BP.

  82. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:09 pm at 6:09 pm #

    You know, I'm not an expert on hitting, but perhaps it would behoove the Mets to TAKE SOME FREAKING PITCHES!

  83. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:15 pm at 6:15 pm #

    10 Strikeout!

  84. dave27
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #

    Josh Johnson is so pitching a no-hitter today. We're not even close.

    And yes, I'm trying in vain to jinx him.

  85. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #

    10 Ks. They really need to get him some run support here.

  86. Good eye murph
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:16 pm at 6:16 pm #

    Santana looking sharp 10 strike outs already

  87. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #

    Come on score some runs

  88. oleosmirf
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:20 pm at 6:20 pm #

    Murphy is definately not an above average fielder…

  89. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #

    CASTILLO

  90. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:21 pm at 6:21 pm #

    castillo breaks it up!!! way to go slappy!

  91. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #

    Good for Castillo.
    And other than Livan, none of our pitchers can bunt.
    On that note, Johan got it done.

  92. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #

    great bunt there. cmon jose get em in

  93. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #

    Nooooooooo

  94. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:23 pm at 6:23 pm #

    Santana has been awesome we really need to get the offense going NOW

  95. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:24 pm at 6:24 pm #

    God f–in damnit…

  96. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:25 pm at 6:25 pm #

    You have to tip your cap to Johnson so far. How else can you explain 15 hits last night and one so far today?

  97. wrightisawful09
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:26 pm at 6:26 pm #

    Is it that hard to have someone post a game day thread? I mean we know it would be filled with errors anyway, but still, is it that hard?

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:27 pm at 6:27 pm #

      Please change your name

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #

      Yeah, like anyone would take you seriously with a tag like that one….

      • oleosmirf
        Apr 12, 2009, 10:47 pm at 10:47 pm #

        i've been saying it for at least a year now, get rid of Howard Johnson and Wright is back to normal

  98. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #

    Eleven

  99. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:29 pm at 6:29 pm #

    Sit down, Ramirez. 11ks.

  100. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:32 pm at 6:32 pm #

    Just hit a few weak balls around the infield, boys. With that awful defense, it ought to be good for a handful of base runners – lol.

  101. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #

    nice job david

  102. Charlie in Delray
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #

    No – that did not fix it. The problem is that the original post I made was BEFORE I even had a login / profile (the system allows you to do that). I simply replied to "Post a new comment" and entered:

    Name: Charlie in Delray
    EMail: (my email addy)
    * Notify me of follow-up comments via email – CHECKED
    and then hit "Submit Comment".

    So now it seems like this has become something of an "orphan post" that no one "owns" and yet it's going to send me email udates basically forever.

    (BTW this seems like a huge flaw as anyone could do this malicously and random folks would start getting all sorts of emails).

  103. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #

    See? Kept that shoulder in, hit it right up the center. Way to get it done.
    Now let's go now, get something going.

  104. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:36 pm at 6:36 pm #

    marlins d!!!!

  105. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #

    HAHAHA – what did I say? Hit some weak grounders to the infield, get some base runners…

  106. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:37 pm at 6:37 pm #

    I love the Marlin defense

  107. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #

    Crap.

  108. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #

    Dear Lord

  109. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #

    son of a….well that sucked

  110. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:39 pm at 6:39 pm #

    WTF was Beltran swinging at?!!?!??

  111. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:40 pm at 6:40 pm #

    this is absurd. santana should just slap everyone in the face in the dugout

  112. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #

    Doc Gooden. Nice to see him.
    He was my favorite pitcher to watch in the mid 80s.

  113. Rich MacLeod
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:42 pm at 6:42 pm #

    Typical Mets. Hit a double play ball, huge error makes everyone safe, next batter hits into a double play anyways. Call it a ballgame, what an underachieving road trip.

  114. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #

    SLAPPY

  115. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:43 pm at 6:43 pm #

    Oh for the love of…..

  116. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #

    Amazing! Castillo is killing us!

  117. mike
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #

    Johan should be 2-0 after this performance but once again his team lets him down. i feel bad for this guy. it is so hard to be optimistic about this team but you know what. Johnson is just a great pitcher who owns us. that is all im going to blame for today's LOSS…yes i say loss josh is going all 9 innings and we cant hit him whatsoever so. if im wrong im wrong ill be sure to read all the hate comments. but we cant blame anyone but Beltran and josh for this loss….oh ahha don't forget Murphy

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #

      Murphy more than Beltran.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #

      You just have to tip your cap to Johnson.

  118. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:44 pm at 6:44 pm #

    the mets do not deserve this horse on the mound

  119. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:45 pm at 6:45 pm #

    Johan is probably thinking 'what the heck do I have to do to get a win with this team'?
    First the BP cost him what could have been 7 more wins last year – and possibly the CY.
    This second start, it's the defense – which is very unusual for this team.

  120. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:46 pm at 6:46 pm #

    12 strike outs and he is loosing. WTF?

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #

      Yeah, how pathetic is this? Defense costing him this game so far.
      You have to tip your cap to Johnson though…..

  121. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:47 pm at 6:47 pm #

    I realize its only 6 games, but you look at the last 2 seasons and imagine what 1 more win could have meant, and then you look at this game and see that a routine fly ball cost them the game, and its sickening.

  122. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:48 pm at 6:48 pm #

    The fact that we have only 2 hits is also costing us the game

    • Dan
      Apr 12, 2009, 6:51 pm at 6:51 pm #

      alright, but if it was a 0-0 game we wouldn't be assuming a loss.

  123. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #

    Johan is pure unbelievableness.

  124. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:49 pm at 6:49 pm #

    alright metsies! big inning here!

  125. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #

    just let the first two out of the three get on, then we get a PH hr # 500 for the sheff

  126. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:50 pm at 6:50 pm #

    13 K's for Johan… I second the mandate that he pimp slap everyone after the game……

  127. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #

    what an idiot!

  128. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #

    Church is the man! Yes!

  129. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #

    That's the way to start it off, Church.
    LOL – on that guy picking up the ball.

  130. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #

    well…wasn't gonna be a triple anywayz

  131. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:52 pm at 6:52 pm #

    LOL KEITH IS LIKE PINK SLIP

  132. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #

    It would be great to tie this thing up now, but seriously AT LEAST 1!!!!

  133. metsfan42793
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #

    lets go reed

  134. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:54 pm at 6:54 pm #

    You gotta score here…

  135. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #

    where was that bunt when there where 0 outs! i'm not saying castro should have bunted, but if you're going to bunt…

  136. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #

    O.K., almost beat it out. Got the job done now. Let's get this run in.

  137. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #

    Why the hell was Castillo bunting?

  138. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:55 pm at 6:55 pm #

    if reed hits a 2 run bomb now, the jersey order is going to be complete

  139. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #

    1st pitch swinging.

  140. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #

    2 on for Reyes… c'mon Jose, we really need you..

  141. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, lead off double. the entire team should just leave and go back to ny for the opener

  142. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #

    Crap!

  143. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #

    too predictable..too goddamn predictable..this team is so frustrating.

  144. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:57 pm at 6:57 pm #

    Sigh…..

    Just goes to show you that you can come back from TJ surgery and pitch as well, if not better, then you did before.

  145. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:58 pm at 6:58 pm #

    AGAIN THE FIRST F–KIN PITCH, TAKE IT FOR ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  146. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #

    chances mets come back in the 9th……. O

    • Dan
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #

      Yes, but heres one thing you can pencil in…they'll put themselves in a can't miss situation, and miss. At least 1 risp.

  147. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #

    is there anyway to reload this site with this new format and not have to go back and forth every single time?

    • kevin
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #

      I dont understand why they changed the format. It sucks now, before you could just hit refresh!!!

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:09 pm at 7:09 pm #

      Not sure what you mean by back and forth but…
      Refresh does not work well with this new format. After signing in and going to the last page of the thread, use 'Last Activity' sort at the top of the page, rather than refresh. If you keep clicking that, the newest posts will show up on top of that page – even if the post is a reply to an older entry (so don't get confused). You'll see next to reply something like 'active 2 minutes ago' so you know it's the latest.

      you'll still have to come down to the bottom of the page to type a new comment yourself, but using Last Activity still works better than Refresh.

  148. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 6:59 pm at 6:59 pm #

    I'm willing to bet Murphy doesn't loose us many games this year. Too bad Johan is the recipient though.

  149. wrightisawful09
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:00 pm at 7:00 pm #

    Ramon Castro is such a fat waste

  150. The Slider
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:01 pm at 7:01 pm #

    Johnson's been tough today. Very tough. What a shame to waste Santana's performance though.

  151. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #

    holdin my breath there….nice catch though

  152. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:04 pm at 7:04 pm #

    And that one Murph catches?
    I'm sure he's beating himself up worse than anyone else could…..

    • Dan
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #

      It is just an empty feeling..it feels as if the Mets were cheated out of this one.

  153. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:05 pm at 7:05 pm #

    Alright… the Mets will definitely score 3 in the 9th…. believe, and it will happen…

  154. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #

    WHY IS IT NEVER EASY?

  155. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:06 pm at 7:06 pm #

    Any way to refresh this page without loosing the whole end of thread?

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

      Refresh does not work well with this new format. After signing in and going to the last page of the thread, use 'Last Activity' sort at the top of the page, rather than refresh. If you keep clicking that, the newest posts will show up on top of that page – even if the post is a reply to an older entry (so don't get confused). You'll see next to reply something like 'active 2 minutes ago' so you know it's the latest.

      you'll still have to come down to the bottom of the page to type a new comment yourself, but using Last Activity still works better than Refresh.

  156. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #

    love this positive input, but maybe next time, not today

  157. wrightisawful09
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:07 pm at 7:07 pm #

    Way to make up for your game blowing mistake today Murphy. BUM!!!!!!!

    • khmustache
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

      is there anybody on the team you like?

  158. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #

    its going to be like they won the ws. again just like friday night

  159. Metfan412
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #

    Typical vintage Mets,more errors than runs.

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

      What? I don't think poor defense has been their problem in the past few years.

  160. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:08 pm at 7:08 pm #

    well folks, just have to start off on the right foot tomorrow for our big opener. Hopefully they dont stink up the new place right away

    • sellitman
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

      I'll second that.

  161. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

    lol if beltran hits a hr here, come on 2 out rally

  162. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

    beltran please hit a bomb

  163. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

    wow do i hate the mets sometimes…why delgado.

  164. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

    there ya go delgado…ain't dead yet!

  165. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:10 pm at 7:10 pm #

    One last gasp… c'mon Beltran

  166. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    i can feel some sort of pulse

  167. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    The fat lady hasn't sung yet.

  168. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    no shutout…. at least

  169. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    PLEASE TIE GAME

  170. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    BELTRAN!!!

  171. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    jj did i not call this.

  172. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    YES !!!!!!! Thumbs up for both Carlos'.
    Holding my breath here. Get it done now, Church.

  173. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:11 pm at 7:11 pm #

    Lets go Church!!!!!!!

  174. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:12 pm at 7:12 pm #

    church, keep up the hot streak. another nice double would tie this baby up

  175. Metfan412
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #

    I will hold my breath for Castillo,if it comes down to him.

  176. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:13 pm at 7:13 pm #

    i want sheff for castro. i dont wanna hear it.

  177. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #

    AWwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

  178. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #

    no fing way

  179. khmustache
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #

    damn….well nice game by johnson and johan. get em tomorrow

  180. The Slider
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #

    Crap. Game over. I feel for Johan. I also feel for Murphy. Tough loss.

  181. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:15 pm at 7:15 pm #

    i hate the motherfu**ing mets! why! every single time! every time! just lose! just win! no…its always a goddamn circus…welcome to the rollercoaster ride that is the new york mets.

  182. ThunderstruckJJ
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #

    johan > johnson and thats today. how sad is that

    • Metsfan46years
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #

      What a tough game to lose.

  183. Sylar
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:16 pm at 7:16 pm #

    F–k… thanks Murphy, not only did you do nothing of significance with the bat, you cost us the game with your garbage fielding. Manuel, please bench him for 1 game, he deserves it.

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #

      Are you serious? He makes one bad play and you want to bench him? Take it easy, man. It's just one game. Still 156 to go…

      • gipper913
        Apr 12, 2009, 11:42 pm at 11:42 pm #

        Sylar, relax. He isn't getting benched for the home opener. It was an error. It happens. The kid has done nothing but hit from last September through early this season. Everybody has 0 – fers, even Ted Williams.

    • SportsPicks365
      Apr 13, 2009, 1:28 am at 1:28 am #

      Hey Sylar, STFU you whiny pessimist.

  184. kevin
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #

    Murphy lost this game.

    He is a horrible outfielder. Santana doesn't deserve to have this loss on his record!!!

  185. sellitman
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:17 pm at 7:17 pm #

    Well boys….onto Citi Field. Happy Easter & Passover all.

  186. Metsfan46years
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:18 pm at 7:18 pm #

    Rememeber that guy that picked up hurch's double. LOL. He got fired

  187. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #

    We are going to need to sweep the Padres

    • Metsfan46years
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #

      Not the third game. Its Peavy vs Maine.

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #

        Dammit I was hoping Peavy wouldnt pitch.

  188. wrightisawful09
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #

    How about brain dead Manuel not walking the 8th hitter and letting the 2nd run score? Real gangsta!

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #

      And why on earth would you walk the 8th hitter that early when Santana has good stuff? You want the pitcher to lead off the next inning, so don't go blaming this on Manuel. God, the comments after a loss on here are ridiculous.

  189. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:19 pm at 7:19 pm #

    Here's hoping Murphy learns from that non catch and doesn't do that again. Not a natural outfielder – so get two hands on that when at all possible.

    Man, this just sux for Santana…..

  190. Disappointed fan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:20 pm at 7:20 pm #

    these 2 hour sleepwalk games are so frustrating, and they're why we lose at the end of the year. But hey its easter. Everyone gets paid just the same – if they don't care why should I? Happy Easter everyone.

    • ClemKadiddle
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #

      [sarcasm]So you give no credit to the kid on the mound for the Marlins. Never mind that he has brilliant stuff and with the umps wide strike zone had complete command out there. Never mind that at times the Mets hitters looked overmatched. Yeah, the Mets mailed it in today. Yep, whenever the Mets lose it’s because they mail in the game. When they try they always win. So if you could get them to try every game they would go 162-0. [sarcasm]

    • Richie Ashburn
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:31 pm at 7:31 pm #

      Don't give Josh Johnson any credit. He only pitched an awesome game. Don't give him any credit. Just blast your guys.

      • Andrew
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #

        Exactly. This is ridiculous, isn't it? Almost nobody on here can take a loss like a man…

      • NYP_BOS_NYP
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #

        Also, what's this nonsense about "sleepwalk games?" Both teams had plenty of life; this was an old-fashioned pitchers duel, and, for me, it was exciting to watch. I truly don't understand how you can fail to appreciate a game like this. I mean, yeah, it sucks to lose, but I'd rather watch a tight 2-1 game wtih incredible pitching than a 12-0 blowout any day. I feel like anybody who would rather watch the blowout doesn't really like baseball all that much — they don't like the art of the game, they just like to beat the crap out of the other guys. I'd rather watch something close, even if we lose.

      • Dan
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #

        Alright he pitched nasty..idc who you are, you're not going to do anything with a 97mph fb on the outside corner, but with that said, his game apporach changes drastically in a 0-0 game and so does the mindset of the mets. would they still have lost..maybe, but the main reason the mets lost was that fly ball error in left. yes santana should not be walking a a guy with 2 outs and nobody on and that gets on my nerves anyday, but when that ball was botched, so was the mets chance at winning this game. johsnon was that nasty that1 mistake and it was game over, and that 1 mistake did happen.

  191. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:22 pm at 7:22 pm #

    This game just proves why the mets should put murph at 2nd. Clearly a weak LF is a huge liability, and its not like castillo is a great 2b. if u put shef in left now you're talking an incredibly potent offense overnight. I realize defensively weak in some spots, but beltran covers half of lf anyway.

    • Richie Ashburn
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:30 pm at 7:30 pm #

      You been drinking too much today. You think left field is more critical to the defense than 2nd base. And you think a washed up roider who is so bad his manager won't use him to pinch hit with the tying run at the plate is the answer to your problems. Don't drive today please.

      • Dan
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #

        I think Sheffield can provide this team with a better bat than Castillo..I know what a crazy opinion. Sheff is still a prescence in a line-up thats why he got intentionally walked before even recording a hit. Idk if Shef is the answer, but my proposal would def sure up the offense. He's not being used cause he's not really in game shape yet, otherwise you'd see him over jeremy reed. Am i the only person in th world that thinks castillo is a mediocre-at-best fielder. He doesn't get to anything. his knees are one fall away from giving way, and he makes errors as well. Yeah he had 4 hits, but come on the guy is nothing.

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:39 pm at 7:39 pm #

      So instead of dropping a fly ball in direct sunlight once a month, perhaps, you want him to botch two or three double plays a week? Richie is right, you have been drinking.

      • Dan
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #

        Do you not realize that Murphy was a 3b last year in the minors. He played some 2b. he can play baseball he's in shape, he's 24 years old..i think he can handle 2b. And i will take a lesser fielder that can hit over an automatic out, who bats after schnieder (an automatic out), and bats before the pitcher spot (an automatic out)..its tough to manufacture runs when u have auto outs 7-9..why ever throw church a descent pitch if you do'nt have to?

        • Andrew
          Apr 12, 2009, 7:56 pm at 7:56 pm #

          Oh wow, where to start with that comment.

          Yes, I know Murphy played 3B in the minors. I also know he committed 55 errors in 230 games at 3B between 2007 and 2008. He also committed a few errors at 2B in limited play in the AFL.

          Luis Castillo is hitting .375 so far this year. Yep, that's an automatic out. Even before yesterday's 4 for 4 performance, he was hitting the ball pretty hard, just right at people. Give Castillo some time before firing him, will you?

          As for not throwing Church a decent pitch, I guess he's found a way to still hit because he is batting .478 so far in 23 AB this season. Not to mention he has six doubles.

          You really need to find a better argument, Dan. Murphy will be fine in left. Had he committed that error in a game where the Mets scored 8 runs, nobody would be talking about it, would they? Just bad timing, that's all…

          • Dan
            Apr 12, 2009, 8:05 pm at 8:05 pm #

            Listen, castillo just isn;t going to be a good hitter anymore idc what his average is. Even if he can occasionally hit a hr, theres no need to play him anywhere resembling deep, and ifneilders play shallower expecting a slap or bunt, so he;s essentially playing withy half the room a normal player has to hit the ball to. Yes church is been hitting great, but if you were a pitcher and it was a close game with risp, would you ever throw church anything resembling a descent pitch? or would you take your chances with schneidr/castillo?

            • Andrew Wharton
              Apr 12, 2009, 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #

              "castillo just isn;t going to be a good hitter anymore idc what his average is."

              What a brilliant comment. So if he hits .280-.300 this year, you still won't consider him a good hitter? God I hate Mets fans sometimes. Your simply commenting out of anger.

              "if you were a pitcher and it was a close game with risp, would you ever throw church anything resembling a descent pitch?"

              Depends on the situation. If there is an open base, then no, and that's going to be the answer no matter who is hitting behind him. If there is nowhere to put him, then you obviously have to pitch to him. Those are things you can't rearrange your lineup around, and even if it works for you in one situation, it hurts you in another.

              Calm down, take a deep breath, and think LOGICALLY for a change.

              • Dan
                Apr 12, 2009, 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #

                Its 6 games..why does his average matter? thats what i meant. obviosuly if he hits 300 this year for an entire season then yes he's valuable. but thats not going to happen. I'm not concerned with the fielding because reyes and wright are gold glovers (although it would be nice if wright could throw a ball to delgado ona routine play every once ina while), beltran catches everything,a and church is a terrific fielder. So yes, i think the defense is pretty good. Have you watched castillo play the field? its not like hes this amazing 2nd basemen that substituting him for a hitter would demolish the team.

                • Andrew Wharton
                  Apr 12, 2009, 8:31 pm at 8:31 pm #

                  "obviosuly if he hits 300 this year for an entire season then yes he's valuable. but thats not going to happen."

                  And how do you know that? Castillo's approach at the plate so far is a good one, and his swing looks good. Of course he's lost a little range out at second base, but he is still one of the better defensive second basemen in the NL.

                  My biggest concern with Castillo is how he handles the cold weather in NY this month. If he is mostly healthy this season, he should be decent for the Mets. If he isn't, he won't be in NY next season.

                  The problem is you don't exactly have too many other options right now. Sheffield can't play OF yet because he is out of shape and hasn't played defense in what, 2 years? They didn't bring him in to play much defense, but rather to be a RH bat off the bench. If his defense comes around, thats a plus.

                  And like you said, ITS 6 GAMES. There is no reason for anyone to be complaining on this board yet, especially not after that amazing spectacle this afternoon.

        • MetsFan4Decades
          Apr 12, 2009, 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #

          Third and second are not interchangeable positions. Just b/c you can play one, does not mean you can be effective at the other.

  192. Metfan412
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:23 pm at 7:23 pm #

    Lovely game,I know Johnson is Met killer,but damn can mount a serious comeback and show some heart?

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #

      Again, you guys are amazing. The comments on here ripping apart the offense are just amazing. Josh Johnson had the nastiest stuff I've seen in a long time today, so don't think for once this was the offense's fault. Has it ever occurred to anybody that the opposing pitcher actually beat our offense fair and square?

  193. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:25 pm at 7:25 pm #

    I fell HORRIBLE for Santana. It seems as if he just CANT win with this team. Or at least its never easy.

    • Richie Ashburn
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #

      Baloney, that's baseball. You pitch good you can lose, you pitch bad you can win. Do you feel bad for every batter who creams one and still makes out?

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #

        Well baseball is upsetting sometimes.

      • Dan
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #

        I DO feel bad for every pitcher that has a cy young robber from him, and then pitches a gem in his second outing and loses because an outfielder drops a routine fly ball.

  194. johanistheman
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #

    Again this inconsistent offense scores big in one game and craps the bed in the other two games. one word…PATHETIC

    • MetFansSuck
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:35 pm at 7:35 pm #

      its called good pitching genius….. give johnson his due credit. he shut our offense down. it happens, get over it

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:41 pm at 7:41 pm #

      You are pathetic. Did you not see Josh Johnson dealing today? You know nothing about baseball…

  195. bigvito22
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:29 pm at 7:29 pm #

    This one hurt…honestly if I knew going in that Johan was going to lose his first game in 10 months, I would have rather he get shelled. Johan's only good for like 1 or 2 clunkers a year, may as well have made it today.

    If Johan doesn't win a Cy this year, it'll be because of losing games like this

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #

      Yeah because this game really hurt his ERA. Christ people, its six games into the season. Why is everyone freaking out? This was baseball at its best today, and unfortunately the Mets came out on the down end of it. Neither team deserved to lose, but the rules say somebody has to.

      • bigvito22
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:50 pm at 7:50 pm #

        in case you haven't noticed, the W stat is basically what makes or breaks a Cy Young…which is stupid, because it is a team stat, nothing more. I'm not freaking out, but its unfortunate. if it were anyone other than Johan having to take the L today, it wouldn't bother me as much

        • Andrew Wharton
          Apr 12, 2009, 8:21 pm at 8:21 pm #

          Yeah, I realize the wins are important, but he has all season to compile more wins. It's just unfortunate he was matched with somebody who had better stuff than he had today.

  196. Metfan412
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:33 pm at 7:33 pm #

    What other team in any division in baseball has terrible records against every other team in their division?Look at the Mets,they have a hard time beating the Marlins,they never beat the Braves,the Phillies are a challenge.The only team they have a good record against is the Nats.Look back at last year the Phils buried the Braves and the Marlins.That is why we won't make it again this year.We can't handle our own division.

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:43 pm at 7:43 pm #

      Six games in and already jumping ship. Good day to you, sir…

  197. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:36 pm at 7:36 pm #

    Johan was f king masterful and he gets the loss. F king bullshit.

  198. MetFansSuck
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:37 pm at 7:37 pm #

    wow, what a bunch of frontrunners. typical mets fans. only love the team when they do well, throw them under the bus anytime they lose. Newsflash, they will lose many more games to come. Johan wont have a perfect record. Quit whining anf throwing our players under the bus like goons.

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #

      I WOULD STFU YOU PHILLY TROLL I WOULD NOT TALK AT ALL CONSIDERING THERE ARE FANS BRAWLING IN THE F KING STANDS AT YOUR OWN WS CEREMONY GET LOST YOU MAGGOT.

      • Andrew Wharton
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:03 pm at 8:03 pm #

        Actually, he's right. There are so many fair-weather fans on here it isn't even funny.

  199. 911nafstem
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:40 pm at 7:40 pm #

    Well, that game sucked…..

    • Andrew
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:58 pm at 7:58 pm #

      Actually, that was an awesome game. If you are truly a fan of the sport, you should learn to appreciate watching two guys shove like that. I wish I had Tivo'd it…just too bad the good guys lost.

      • NYP_BOS_NYP
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:12 pm at 8:12 pm #

        Exactly. The game did not suck. The outcome? OK, the outcome sucked. For us. But the game was excellent.

        • 911nafstem
          Apr 12, 2009, 9:32 pm at 9:32 pm #

          Well, clearly I meant the outcome sucked. Jeez, can you make any comment on this board without someone on their high horse coming to judge you?

  200. Lenny
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:42 pm at 7:42 pm #

    what a frustrating game… it looks like the mets achilles so far this year has been their defense and their ability (or lack their of) to hit with RISP… unfortunate because i truly thought johan pitched a better game… didnt give up an earned run yet still gets the loss, funny how baseball works sometimes… johnson on the other hand is an absolute stud, he has owned the mets and it looks like he's going to have some more opportunities to do so over the course of his career… follow me on twitter for mets comments and thoughts… my name is ELrow

  201. Andrew
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #

    Why do we "need" to sweep the Padres again? Is it already September?

    • gipper913
      Apr 12, 2009, 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #

      THEY ALL COUNT THE SAME! Jeeebus, I agree with you getting on the negative nellies, but I have NEVER bought that "it is still early" argument. Look, one more win in April last year, and September would have turned out a lot happier.

  202. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:45 pm at 7:45 pm #

    That's a ludicrous solution. Murphy is no second baseman. And his poor defense in that position will be way more obvious than what happened today out in LF.
    Sheff hasn't played the outfield in like what? 2 1/2 years? I'll take Murphy over him out there daily anyday.

    • Dan
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #

      Then why did they sign sheffield? they expect him to play the of…you can just put church in lf if they needed to, i'm sur ehe'd be thrilled to play every day. there is no way murphy is that bad a second basemen, no way. Castillo is not a good fielder either! he can''t get to anything! his range is a joke. I'm not even concerned with the fielding. my bigges tmets concerned is this blackhole 7-9 wher epotential runs come to never be seen again.

      • MetsFan4Decades
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #

        That's a very good question – why they signed Sheffield. Cheap, has some power, blah, blah. As a bat off the bench, I have no problem with it being him rather than Marlon. As a platoon or replacement for our corner outfielders? I never liked that idea.
        You have to be concerned with the fielding. Poor defense can lose just as many games almost as poor offense. Just ask the Marlins…
        Murphy right now would not be an improvement over Castillo defensively at second base. It's that simple. He played second in winter ball and didn't fare very well.

  203. SantanaClaus
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:46 pm at 7:46 pm #

    I wish they could have given Murphy the loss it was his fault and like Murphy but give credit when credit is due. But i look on the positive side Josh Johnson is on my fantasy team. 33 points hell yea! No one should b disapointed about this loss it was a very well played game on both sides we just got the short side.

    • MetFansSuck
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #

      exactly. it was a great game to watch. Johan is just awesome. No doubt he will win cy young this year. 13k…..just amazing. we will get them next time

    • Metskins
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:10 pm at 8:10 pm #

      Santana is on mine. Pretty good week, all in all. Over 42 points!

  204. johanistheman
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:47 pm at 7:47 pm #

    excuses,excuses… johnson pitched a great game but if the hitters had any patience, they couldve scratched a couple more runs in this game.

    • Metskins
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #

      What are you talking about? The guy was pitching something like 75% strikes!! He was POUNDING the strike zone. Plus, the ump's wide strike zone didn't help either.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #

      The Mets hitters were patient early on, but found themselves constantly behind in the count 0-2 and 1-2. That pretty much eliminates the purpose of taking pitches.

  205. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:49 pm at 7:49 pm #

    You can't take this came away from Johnson. He pitched a gem, just like Johan.
    Kudos to Murphy on the post game show. He's giving no excuses at all. Said it was just laziness. Not that he didn't catch it well coming off the bat or lost it in the sun or some such other excuse, just 'it was lazy.'

  206. Metskins
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:51 pm at 7:51 pm #

    Seriously, this is the official blog of the Mets. Matt and Co should be able to get a pre and post game post in for EVERY GAME. If I'm not mistaken, this is Matt's full time job. Why are they so tardy on the weekends?

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #

      I would give the holiday as the excuse but truthfully, Sundays has always been hit or miss with getting a pregame thread up. Don't know what the reason is for that b/c you don't see it on any other team's blog sites.

      • Metskins
        Apr 12, 2009, 7:57 pm at 7:57 pm #

        Well, honestly I forgot about the holiday so I guess you get a little bit of slack for that. But the lack of coverage on the weekends seems to be the rule rather than the exception. A few years ago, it wasn't that big of a deal but this blog is big time now so I guess I expect a little more.

        • MetsFan4Decades
          Apr 12, 2009, 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #

          Yeah, I can understand today. Hopefully, this will be the exception, not the rule.

    • Andrew Wharton
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #

      Pregame/Postgame analysis 162 games at ddmetsfanblog.com if you are looking for something to read. I don't think I'd get on Matt too hard today though, considering its Easter Sunday.

      • Metskins
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:09 pm at 8:09 pm #

        You're probably right. I totally forgot it was Easter.

      • MetsFan4Decades
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:36 pm at 8:36 pm #

        I agree. And thanks for the analysis site.

        • Metskins
          Apr 12, 2009, 8:47 pm at 8:47 pm #

          Yeah I just checked out that site. Pretty cool.

  207. Lenny
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:53 pm at 7:53 pm #

    like keith said durring the game, players that go on to have long careers lose a game for their team at least once… it was unfortunate, it was ugly, but at the same time we coudlnt get the bats going… johnson has had the mets number for a while now… follow me on twitter, my name is ELrow

  208. Metskins
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #

    Oh really? Go back and check the records from last year. The only team that had a winning record against us was the Braves.

  209. Metskins
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:59 pm at 7:59 pm #

    I agree. Johnson was throwing 96 in the 9th. He was awesome. You just have to tip your cap to him and move on. The one that irks me more than this loss was the one Friday. That is going to stick in my craw.

  210. MetFansSuck
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:04 pm at 8:04 pm #

    i aint no philthie fan u front running tool…..u whine the most when we lose. STFU and grow a pair

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #

      Dude really, your the one that needs to grow a pair. "MetsFansSuck" and you say you arent a philly. WTF are you then? A nationals fan? Then I REALLY would not be talking. No one on this blog is a front runner. Some people may make stupid remarks, like you. Your a troll. Get lost. I whine the most.. STFU this is obviously the first time youve ever been on this blog. I rarely whine. I feel bad for Johan. That is not whining. pick on someone like jay sanchez whos homophobic or fxcarden who suggest we get rid of murph because of one play. JUST LEAVE

  211. Metskins
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #

    I'm starting to wonder if this team really appreciates Ryan Church enough. The guy is a good player, and could be great if he stays healthy. In hindsight, ever questioning the Miledge trade was idiotic on my part.

  212. grandslamsingle
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm #

    i'd be willing to bet that daniel murphy will be out in left field, super early, tracking down high fly balls tomorrow at citi. not too worried about the kid, he's a solid player, and seems to have a sound work ethic. i'd hate to see his development (yes, he's still working stuff out), hindered by sheffield.

    • Metskins
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:23 pm at 8:23 pm #

      I just can't see the Mets taking him out of the lineup for Sheff. Right now I can't see Gary being anything less than a right handed batter off the bench. This will of course make him whine and complain, but to expect anything more than the occasional start in right would be foolish.

      • grandslamsingle
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #

        i don't see jerry giving sheffield too much playing time either. however, stranger things have happened, we are talking mets here.

      • MetsFan4Decades
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:34 pm at 8:34 pm #

        Exactly. completely agree.

    • oleosmirf
      Apr 12, 2009, 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #

      its going to take a while before he becomes a decent fielder

  213. Andrew Wharton
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:17 pm at 8:17 pm #

    "Castillo is not a good fielder either! he can''t get to anything! his range is a joke. I'm not even concerned with the fielding."

    Ok, that's enough. How old are you?

  214. fxcarden
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:24 pm at 8:24 pm #

    Unless something drastic happens with Murphy defense ability wise, the will have to either:

    a) put himin the infield ( 1B next year, maybe ? )
    b) trade him as part of a blockbuster package for a stud starter like Halladay
    c) resign themselves to the fact that LF is not just another flawed position for them.

    Basically…..I want the Mets to win more than I like Murphy. The more flawed positions you have, the less likely you are to win, especially in the post season.

    I just want to see how long it will take the boo birds to show up if Murphy keeps playing the outfield so poorly, and then goes into a hitting slump (high probability of that, since he is only a kid).

    • fxcarden
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:25 pm at 8:25 pm #

      Geez, sorry for the poor composition. I am using my brother in law's garnage computer. I meant LF is just another flawed position unless he improves.

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:28 pm at 8:28 pm #

      I think its way too early suggest to move Murphy out of LF. One bad play means nothing. It was a mistake. Murphy seems like a kid who learns from his mistakes. If he were to continue playing like he did today, then yea, a decision will have to be made.

      • Lenny
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #

        lets not get carried away… if this play came durring a 10-3 game where oliver perez was pitching nobody would be talking about it… was it unforunate and ugly? yes… but i dont think anyone should start talking about moving murphy because of one play… the kid has incredible instincts and an even better work ethic… he'll be fine, relax… follow me on twitter, my name is ELrow

        • fxcarden
          Apr 12, 2009, 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #

          Guys……I said "unless he drastically improves". Hopefully he is capable of drastically improving. Right now my 3 year old nephew is a better outfielder than he is.

    • Metskins
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:44 pm at 8:44 pm #

      This is the dumbest post I've seen today. Seriously, STFU. The kid has been stellar for the first week of the season, he just made an error. It's NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. David Wright made an error yesterday. It happens, it just that this one cost the Mets. What drastic thing needs to happen? He hasn't been bad all in all for the first week.

      • Richie Ashburn
        Apr 12, 2009, 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #

        Lets see, it was the Met organization that left Murphy in the infield until he was brought up, and lets see it was the Met organization that sent him to Arizona this Fall to play, guess what, the infield, so it is the Met organzation that has a problem not Murphy. If this organization wasn't pathetic Murphy would have been moved off of third base long ago. Murphy has improved a lot in ashort time despite this organization doing its best to prevent his improvement.

  215. Doug
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:33 pm at 8:33 pm #

    Can all you babies honestly shut up…its so dumb how you idiots act. "Johan shouldnt have a loss right now he pitched masterful fking bs." Honestly grow up…johan wasnt going 35-0 and the mets offense wasnt gunna score 6 runs a game every game, and then tomorrow night when they smack the padres all around citi field all you same tools who run your mouth about how bad this team is will be lickin the players nuts, shut up and grow up…its not even worth coming on here anymore…ever since matt joined up with SNY all the tool front runners are on this and have killed this site.

    • MetFansSuck
      Apr 12, 2009, 8:39 pm at 8:39 pm #

      bingo. too many damn front runners. We have some crappy fans here. To bad its early in the season and we will have to deal with this whining nonsense all season….

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 12, 2009, 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #

        Please if you have posted on MetsBlog before, tell me what your old name was and your typical posts… because if you havent commented before Id like to see you post something senseable, not just bashing other Mets fans, because that makes you very unpoular around here.

        • Richie Ashburn
          Apr 12, 2009, 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #

          The post was great and right on. your post was pathetic, and if he's unpopular, wow, he won't win the matt cerrone/SNY met buttttt kisssing award like you are trying to do.

          • MetsFan4Decades
            Apr 12, 2009, 10:17 pm at 10:17 pm #

            I don't even know what you and Doug are even talking about – lol. What the hell does Matt teaming up SNY have to do with some of the opinons people post on this site? That somehow they're responsible for front runner fans posting on this site?
            Wow, just wow….

          • ProudMetsFan
            Apr 13, 2009, 11:26 am at 11:26 am #

            Im sorry, but I am not being pathetic in any way whatsoever. You are the pathetic one. It is obvious that you, Doug, and MetsFansSuck are the same person, and you are an annoying troll. I am not kissing Matt's ass in any way or form. But you are being an A$$HOLE because all you do is bitch and moan about other fans' behavior, when they are doing nothing wrong. I just dont think you should have the right to accuse people of their opinion when you have yet to state yours. Be an adult, stop being a jerk, and actually say something smart.

  216. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:46 pm at 8:46 pm #

    Well My Lord, everyone seems to be in an arguement. Look I am just upset. This was an incredible game, and both pitchers get major props. I just dont like these type of losses, especially when Johan pitches so well. And what's up with all the people bashing other people, calling them front runners and sh*t. If you have posted on here before the Intensedebate, then please use your old name, like I and may others did. Because I seriously would not talk if youve never even posted on here. If you want to talk about front runners talk to the guy you see on the street whos wearing a Phillies hat and complains about them losing despite the fact that he probably doesnt even know a single guy on the team.

    • Hit The Weights
      Apr 13, 2009, 12:44 am at 12:44 am #

      Unfortunately my old name Hit The Weights Zeile doesn't fit in this new format for whatever reason so I had to changed it to simply Hit The Weights. And for the record I hate this format.

      • ProudMetsFan
        Apr 13, 2009, 11:25 am at 11:25 am #

        No problem, Zeile.

  217. Hernandez_1B
    Apr 12, 2009, 8:54 pm at 8:54 pm #

    Going into today, everyone knew this was going to be a pitchers duel and runs were gonna be hard to come by. It sucks that they lost and that Santana took the loss even though he did out pitch Johnson. It's only game 5, if it was game 160, then we can all panic. 3-3 to open the year on the road is not bad considering the rotation still needs to work on some things

    • fxcarden
      Apr 12, 2009, 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #

      Is 81-81 good, too ?

      I just want everyone to remember Johan's words in ST. We can't leave any wins behind…..

      • Hernandez_1B
        Apr 12, 2009, 9:27 pm at 9:27 pm #

        I understand where you are coming from but it is a lot easier to get over a loss like this in April than in Sept.

        • Hit The Weights
          Apr 13, 2009, 12:57 am at 12:57 am #

          except when we miss the playoffs in september by 1 game and we start recounting games like THIS and say "if only". And after these last two years I know that while early, they all count the same in the end.

      • Richie Ashburn
        Apr 12, 2009, 10:02 pm at 10:02 pm #

        Guess what… The same applies to every team. We made an error and it cost one run. Then the ace let up and gave up an RBI to the # 8 man. so he deserved to lose. He bears down to the # 8 man its 1-1. The other team gets credit. They're playing for the same prize. They got a break and Mets had two cahances after Marlin errors and got ZERO. Marlins deserved this one.

  218. Gland
    Apr 12, 2009, 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #

    It's disappointing that such an awesome pitching duel was actually decided by a stupid error in LF.

    It's also disappointing that this blog continually drops the ball on posts. No pre-game, no post-game, nothing? Lame.

  219. mannyforthemets
    Apr 12, 2009, 9:07 pm at 9:07 pm #

    manny woulda caught the ball AND knocked in 2 runs

    • ProudMetsFan
      Apr 12, 2009, 9:13 pm at 9:13 pm #

      Your funny.

      • fxcarden
        Apr 12, 2009, 9:16 pm at 9:16 pm #

        He is also right.

        • MetFansSuck
          Apr 12, 2009, 9:43 pm at 9:43 pm #

          thats funny cuz manny aint doin too well right now. Murph is batting much better than him……

    • MetsFan4Decades
      Apr 12, 2009, 9:18 pm at 9:18 pm #

      Get over it.

  220. citifield2009
    Apr 12, 2009, 9:15 pm at 9:15 pm #

    156 games to go, and we're not going to win all of them. The sad thing about a pitchers duel is that someone who's having a good day is still going to lose. When Johan Santana is 20-5 at the end of the year, nobody is going to be complaining. We have a lot to look forward to this year. I can't wait to get to Citi Field tomorrow.

    • fxcarden
      Apr 12, 2009, 9:24 pm at 9:24 pm #

      You're right that we won't win every game, but why is everyone so high on Murphy. He hasn't proven a thing yet other than maybe he can be a good hitter. Every ball he gets to in the OF is an adventure. It's almost like they want to force the issue with him. My point in earlier posts is that the Mets can't afford to be experimenting too much. If the rest of the lineup was solid, then yes you could, but with Castillo being a huge question, the catcher position being weak, and a suspect rotation except for Johan, they can't wait too long before they address his defensive skills.

      That being said, today was an awesome game, and too bad we had to lose on a stupid error. If we had a capable left fielder ( defensively ), maybe the game ends different.

      Now…..everyone enjoy Easter, and I'll see you all (virtually) at Citi Field tomorrow.

    • Hernandez_1B
      Apr 12, 2009, 9:29 pm at 9:29 pm #

      I agree. A few people in here need to take a step back off the ledge. By the end of the month we will have a good idea on where this team is heading

      • 911nafstem
        Apr 12, 2009, 9:35 pm at 9:35 pm #

        I don't think anyone is on the ledge, it's just frustrating to lose a game on an error (especially one pitched by your ace). That's all. While I agree people need to calm down after losses, I also think people need to realize that some fans use this site to blow off steam after a loss. It doesn't mean they should be scolded. There are a lot of policemen on this site (not you in particular) and they're getting just as tiresome as the pessimists.

        • Hernandez_1B
          Apr 12, 2009, 9:58 pm at 9:58 pm #

          I hear what you are saying. I was just a frustrated as everyone else. But it is interesting to read everyones reaction after every game. Either everyone is ready to pop the cork on the champagne or jump off the nearest bridge…lol

          • oleosmirf
            Apr 12, 2009, 10:38 pm at 10:38 pm #

            well when Murphy hits a single to LF he has the best approach of any young hitter ever and when he makes an error he's overrated.

            thats how it goes…

  221. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:20 pm at 5:20 pm #

    No pregame very weird… I hate being a pessimist but thats a pretty big sign of decline.

  222. ProudMetsFan
    Apr 12, 2009, 5:29 pm at 5:29 pm #

    wow really there are only like four people here

    • The Slider
      Apr 12, 2009, 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #

      I know. Weird … especially with Santana pitching. I thought a lot more people would have come out just to see him.

  223. This format sucks
    Apr 12, 2009, 9:55 pm at 9:55 pm #

    I agree there are too many policemen on this blog After the way they played the end of last yr and 07 it left a real bad taste and the way the started off this year is like the way they ended so its ok for some fans to get down on the Mets it does not make them less of a Met fan then others

    • fxcarden
      Apr 12, 2009, 9:57 pm at 9:57 pm #

      Well said…….

      • Hernandez_1B
        Apr 12, 2009, 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #

        the bottom line is everyone has a right to their own opinion whether you agree with it or not. Thats why reading this blog is always entertaining

    • Gland
      Apr 12, 2009, 10:32 pm at 10:32 pm #

      I don't know if it's "policemen", I think some fans don't find it enjoyable to constantly complain about the team. Personally, even though I can get extremely frustrated and angry from not only game to game but play to play, I still try to stay positive. So even though I'm annoyed that an awsome performance by Johan was wasted by Murphy's ass of a play, I don't necessarily want to read a bunch of comments about "no heart" or "this team sucks". I prefer to just stay positive and hope they win tomorrow.

      That's not to say anyone is right or wrong, but the more negative comments and sky is falling attititude, the less I feel like reading the comments. That, plus the lack of updates and the terrible format makes me not even want to come to this blog sometimes.

  224. MetsFan4Decades
    Apr 12, 2009, 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #

    The voice of reason – thank you. This loss was hard, especially for Johan, but you have to tip your cap to Johnson. Both pitched a gem, someone had to lose and it was us. We could have avoided it if not for the error, but it happened.
    We might be lamenting this loss going down the stretch but it happened, have to get over it and come out strong tomorrow.
    And I am jealous -lol. Enjoy the game tomorrow.

  225. Richie Ashburn
    Apr 12, 2009, 10:03 pm at 10:03 pm #

    No post from Cerrone means there today was an off day. What the heck you all screaming about a loss. No game today per metsblog no post.

  226. oleosmirf
    Apr 12, 2009, 10:41 pm at 10:41 pm #

    Murphy is NOT a star player…trading him makes no senese though i agree

  227. Frank
    Apr 12, 2009, 10:48 pm at 10:48 pm #

    Does MetsBlog go to sleep on the weekends?

  228. Tom
    Apr 12, 2009, 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm #

    I guess they took the day off. I wasn't home, so I don't care that much. I listened to most of the game, and yeah Santana was amazing and Johnson was great too, but that's no excuse to lose the game. Of all people who made a crucial error, I'm suprised it was the fuctional Daniel Murphy, but we should understand this will happen time to time out of his natural position. He's still learning and this will only motivate him to do better.

  229. Tom
    Apr 12, 2009, 11:09 pm at 11:09 pm #

    I don't like the ''Johnson is good'' excuse. Or ''Bonifacio is fast.'' You know what, look at what's going on in Philly. Yeah, their starting pitching has been terrible, like 30 ER in 30 IP, but they're hitting at the end of games. They're confident. Our 8th and 9th inning, with JJ and Frankie will be as solid as there's, although there's more question marks about the middle. Even though our offense has been more productive to this point though, their offense has been the main reason why they're .500. There's no reason why we can't sweep the Padres. I understand start the year out on the road isn't always easy, but there's no excuse not to lose, especially without facing Peavy.

    • fxcarden
      Apr 12, 2009, 11:20 pm at 11:20 pm #

      That's right. No excuses, including "poor Murphy is playing out of position". This is a PRO team. We shouldn't have people playing "out of position" with this payroll.

      Again, nothing against Murphy the person or the player. Just frustrated with the Mets in general. We would probably be 5 -1 right now if it wasn't for freakin' Perez and today's game.

      Can't let your ace pitch a gem and not win the game. That's fine for Peavey and the Padres with a small payroll, but not for the team with the highest payroll in the league, and a new stadium to boot.

  230. NYP_BOS_NYP
    Apr 12, 2009, 7:44 pm at 7:44 pm #

    Sh*t happens. This was a well pitched game on both sides, and I enjoyed watching it. Johnson had nasty stuff and deserved the win. Johan deserved it too, but only one pitcher and one team gets to win. Those are the rules.

    And Santana, by the way, hasn't lost a game since last June, if I remember that statistic, so I'm sure he's fine.

  231. Dan
    Apr 12, 2009, 11:58 pm at 11:58 pm #

    How can a mets fan be a front runner?I am lost here..is this yankeesblog? Obviously mets fans are going to be nervous did u not watch the last 2 seasons? I did and the fact that i and every1 who posts here still roots for the metsies is as far away from a frontrunner as you can get.

  232. Freddie
    Apr 13, 2009, 12:07 am at 12:07 am #

    Many sites are able to figure out how to post automatic threads if they're not going to be able to do it manually.

    You'd think they'd have one person available to post, even on Easter. The players play, plenty of people work holidays in sports.

    • Gland
      Apr 13, 2009, 1:03 am at 1:03 am #

      100% in agreement. Besides the fact that plenty of people were working today out in the real world, even other blogs were being updated! This blog is very bad about coverage.

  233. Duey
    Apr 13, 2009, 12:18 am at 12:18 am #

    I know it's Sunday/the weekend and not much is done on this site during this time, but is it too much to ask to just have a simple open thread for each game? I find it kinda ludicrous how I have to refer to last night's recap to find out what people are buzzin' about today's game… Especially seeing as if this is affiliated with SNY. Just sayin'… I can't be the only one thinking this…

    Of course, appreciate everything, as usual. :)

    • fxcarden
      Apr 13, 2009, 12:38 am at 12:38 am #

      Matt needs a backup. I vote for Joe Benigno.

      • QnsNative718
        Apr 13, 2009, 12:44 am at 12:44 am #

        Agree. Very dissapointing.

  234. RichieHebner
    Apr 13, 2009, 12:34 am at 12:34 am #

    Well, it is a major religious holiday weekend, but still Metsblog does have a staff, perhaps someone could've done a quick pre-game at least.

  235. QnsNative718
    Apr 13, 2009, 12:42 am at 12:42 am #

    No game day thread, and no post game thread? Very dissapointing, Metsblog. I support this site 100% but this type of negligence is unacceptable. Oh, and I nearly cried when the Mets lost this game by 1 and that error in left was the deciding factor. Well, I guess we knew what we were getting with Murphy playing left. Hopefully this will teach him a lesson and he'll approach the game even more hungry.

  236. KL15
    Apr 13, 2009, 12:45 am at 12:45 am #

    You're not going to go 162-0. I get that. But this is NOT going to get the job done, PERIOD!! This is the same problem as the end of last year and when I started complaining about Howard Johnson all I heard was "he's not the problem," "he's not at bat," "these guys are profrssionals." Well ladies and gentlemen these are professionals and when NO ONE can come up with a big hit that is a coaching problem. If it was a player or two thats a personal issue. But when no one can that is a coaching issue. I like Jerry Manuel, but it's time to question some guys manhood. I know it's game 6 of the season and they haven't played at home yet. I was willing to let the first game of this series go. But I beginning to think everyone else is right and I'm wrong, this could become a disease quickly and it's time for it to stop. Get more time in the cage tomorrow if you need to, sit guys down if you need to, send someone back to Buffalo if you need to, but do SOMETHING. Once is an accident and twice is a trend and I'm beginning to get worried that this is a trend Thanks for listening.

    • Hit The Weights
      Apr 13, 2009, 1:03 am at 1:03 am #

      oh but didnt you see Omar got Krod and Putz which not only fixed our bullpen but it also somehow fixed our starting rotation, offense, and situational hitting.

    • fxcarden
      Apr 13, 2009, 1:04 am at 1:04 am #

      KL, I don't disagree with you but I give them a pass on the hitting today, because Josh Johnson was pitching unbelievable. Once in a while, you're gonna run into someone like that. I do see your point about not letting it get out of hand, which I agree 10000000 % is what happened last two years.

      …….enough with the babying the players……..crack the whip.

  237. Gland
    Apr 13, 2009, 12:56 am at 12:56 am #

    What are the odds that Matt and crew even acknowledge that there were no posts today? Or are they just going to carry on and ignore the complaints of many posters?

  238. D.J. Short
    Apr 13, 2009, 1:00 am at 1:00 am #

    hamme uuuuuuuuuuuu

  239. Hit The Weights
    Apr 13, 2009, 1:01 am at 1:01 am #

    I cant wait till the Mets (minus Johan bc hes owned them in his last 2 starts) to finally get mad at the Marlins for always sticking it to us….

  240. fxcarden
    Apr 13, 2009, 1:06 am at 1:06 am #

    and when thet get mad, what will happen ?.

    I hope you are not thinking bean ball war. There is no need for that. The Marlins get up to play us, just like (sometimes) we get up to play the Yankees.

    • Hit The Weights
      Apr 13, 2009, 1:21 am at 1:21 am #

      no, in fact i dont want a bean war bc i know everyone on our team is a freakin pansy. i wish they would get angry and get even. I wish they would beat them the way they beat us. I just hate knowing my team isnt heartless, theyre ball-less.

  241. number15
    Apr 13, 2009, 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #

    thanks for the input, hj. you have a point and you're right; his throws are always spot on and he's one of the greatest defensive infielders any of us will ever see. his numbers with risp are also phenomenal so far. my bad. sorry for being such a joke

    • hjhjhjhjhj
      Apr 13, 2009, 2:18 pm at 2:18 pm #

      i just said your comment is a joke….it obvious that you dont pay attention to the sport at all by your lack of knowledge….sometimes people win awards because THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BETTTER and not because they are or have to be the best of all time at something. which is apparently what a player has to be for you to appreciate them..sorry that they guy is only a lifetime 300hitter with RISP…ya he sucks…like i said change your name to I hate DW….

      • number15
        Apr 13, 2009, 2:35 pm at 2:35 pm #

        the only team i watch everyday is the mets, so i'm not going to spout out names of other players who should have won the award. but i have a very hard time believing he's been the best defensive 3rd baseman in the league for the last 2 years. and for the record, i do not hate david wright, nor do i think he su-cks. i do think he is a bit overrated and i'm a little down on him at the moment, but i acknowledge he's an important part of the team and i know that he will have ups and downs.

        • hjhjhjhjhj
          Apr 13, 2009, 2:44 pm at 2:44 pm #

          i would say that the in 07 he was probably the 3rd or 4th best, but last year he did have the best season of any 3b in the NL defensively…the problem is that people think he is the same as when he first came up, but he has built himself into a fine 3b (albeit with the occasional bad throw)…his hands are outstanding and he has great range…no one is better at the bar handed play moving forward with the slow roller or bunt…and i guess we ll just have to disagree because im not sure how he is overrrated…most people put him in the top three or 4 at his position (personally in think he is second best behing A ROD when healthy)….so i ask you…name other 3b that are bettter right now in their careers…and FYI i believe that chipper has had a great career,….right now he is not better than DW..IMO

  242. hjhjhjhjhj
    Apr 13, 2009, 2:05 pm at 2:05 pm #

    not attacking here but would love to see what he would have to do as a 3b to NOT be overrated? please explain…and dont give me "he needs to throw the ball better"….