News: Figueroa DFA’d

April 19, 2009 at 19:18 pm · 161 comments

by Matthew Cerrone

The Mets designated Nelson Figueroa for assignment following today’s loss to the Brewers.

The Mets purchased the contract of Casey Fossum from Triple-A Buffalo, who will take Figueroa’s spot on the roster.

so, let me get this straight, essentially, the Mets just traded figueroa and Darren O’Day for fossum… i mean, there really wasn’t a more efficient way to bring on a spot starter for the afternoon… seriously, any time roster management comes to in play, i panic, because, while i believe Omar Minaya does a good job with major acquisitions, i feel he fumbles the ball a lot on these little moves…

…i feel bad for nelson, actually, who i wish could find a permanent job on a rosterhopefully he ends up back in the system

{ 161 comments }

me johnson April 19, 2009 at 11:25 pm

at least the food at citi field is top notch

john April 19, 2009 at 11:33 pm

Perfectly said. That's all this about anyway…

CannonBoy13 April 20, 2009 at 1:26 am

Now if the lines weren't so darn long to get the food it would be awesome.

havery April 20, 2009 at 12:01 pm

I would rather eat day old stale french fries and watch an exciting and winning team.

Grotesmask April 19, 2009 at 11:26 pm

I like Figgy, too.

He's got some decent stuff. Kept in this game. Talk about nice guys finishing last…

Casey Fossum…just one in a long line of jokes. Oh, boy!

AHighBlackMan April 19, 2009 at 11:38 pm

hahaha that's true nice guys always finish last

steve April 19, 2009 at 11:27 pm

fossum has been pitching well in the minors and adds another lefty to the pen. figueroa is worthless anyway.

MosesMagnum April 20, 2009 at 12:54 am

Worthless huh? So what are the Mets as an offense? Since they can't seem to capitalize on RISP with less than 2 outs. Yes it's early, but this has been a problem with them the last 2 years

Snowman April 19, 2009 at 11:29 pm

Do the Angels have to take O'day back or is there a chance we'll see him again?

TheDirtySanchez April 19, 2009 at 11:42 pm

they dont have to take him back. If they dont want him he will be opted to the minors i believe

MosesMagnum April 20, 2009 at 12:51 am

I wouldn't be surprised if they kept him. Apparently their bullpen has 8+ ERA

BxMetsDude April 19, 2009 at 11:33 pm

Tough day for Figgy. I guess Fossum will get erased when Redding comes back?

Angelo April 20, 2009 at 1:56 am

" I guess Fossum will get erased when Redding comes back? "

Who?

Sylar April 19, 2009 at 11:35 pm

WTFH???

So Figgy pitches a very good game… and he gets rewarded by being cut for a garbage lefty.

Some of the moves the Mets make defy all reasonable logic…

bkfitz April 20, 2009 at 12:30 am

Figuerora pitched decently. He did not pitch "a very good game."

TheDirtySanchez April 19, 2009 at 11:37 pm

well…i was wondering how thye will handle the figgy situation and pelf "not" being injured and stuff….at least it gives jerry another lefty.

fxcarden April 19, 2009 at 11:44 pm

Well…..now when we choke in September for the third straight year we can just roll over and play Fossum ?.

Get it ?.

AHighBlackMan April 19, 2009 at 11:45 pm

talk about being shafted though

TheDirtySanchez April 19, 2009 at 11:49 pm

he knew it would be a spot start…hes a big boy, he can handle it

DominicanBoy08 April 20, 2009 at 12:00 am

I am getting a little nervous about the marlins, I know its only april but still…

darknova April 20, 2009 at 12:17 am

Well, Lindstrom is likely to get injured again sometime, and there's a lot of kids there that could very easily fall off the ledge at some point. It'll be interesting to watch. Washington got out to a similar start a few years back, I think in 2005. They were in first around the All-Star break, but faded quickly. These Marlins look dangerous for sure, so we need to be really careful. I hope they don't bury the division.

Hernandez_1B April 20, 2009 at 12:24 am

The Marlins do look dangerous but lets keep in mind that they faced the Nats 6 times already and won all six. Not exactly a quality opponent

TheDirtySanchez April 20, 2009 at 12:37 am

next month they got the cubs/diamonbacks/phillis/mets/colorado…..lets wait until next month before you buy into the hype

CannonBoy13 April 20, 2009 at 1:32 am

Lets be carefull what we say. The Mets play the Nats next weekend and it would not suprise me at all if they won 2 out of the 3 games.

darknova April 20, 2009 at 11:28 am

Yeah, that's something I'm worried about. Considering that this team looks like a AA squad against scrub pitchers, Daniel Cabrera could look like Cy Young against us.
Here's hoping that facing the Nats is what the offense needs to get clicking. I get to hit Citi Field for the first time Saturday for the middle game of the Nats series, so let's get those bats heated up, guys!

hbkrvdbew April 20, 2009 at 4:23 am

They seem to have that magic to them like the mets had in '06 and the phils have had the last couple years where they are just never out of the game. Plus it has been 6 years since their last title. 1997, 2003, 2009? Might this be a trend?

TRS86 April 20, 2009 at 11:45 am

Many were saying the same thing last year. I continued to point out the fact that the Marlins played the EASIEST schedule in the MLB the first half of last season and it would catch up with them in the 2nd half and of course it did. Just be patient.

zen April 20, 2009 at 12:02 am

In the last 5 years, Fossum's lowest era was 4.92. The other years were often in the 6 or 7 range. We're talking about the last guy in the pen, but this is a mess.

Hernandez_1B April 20, 2009 at 12:27 am

How is it a mess? Whether it was O'Day, Fossum or Figgy, they were gone once Redding is ready. Also, can someone please tell me who you would rather get rid of in the pen if it's not one of those guys. Fossum is also the 2nd lefty that everyone has been complaining about that we didn't have

zen April 20, 2009 at 12:36 am

Fossum is terrible. Who cares if he's lefty. Might as well bring in Orosco.

MetsFan4Decades April 20, 2009 at 12:08 am

So Figgy does his best, keeps them in the game and the only reason he really took the loss was b/c they couldn't get a hit with RISP. And then just like that, he's DFA'd. He probably wasn't going to ever break the rotation but was an option to go to as a spot starter. Can't ever have enough starters. As I don't think either Garcia or Redding is close to ready, what happens if Pelfry isn't ready for his next start?

darknova April 20, 2009 at 12:13 am

Exactly. This is baffling. I know everyone wants another lefty in the pen, but Fossum? Wow. We're being left with Niese as the option if Pelfrey misses another start. Kinda worrisome if you ask me.

BxMetsdude April 20, 2009 at 12:17 am

I'm guessing Neise would have to get the start, although its not looking good for him right now in Buffalo. 12 ER given up in 12.1 innings pitched.

darknova April 20, 2009 at 12:20 am

I thought this is why we were trying to stack our backup starters, so Niese could spend a good portion of the year in AAA developing. This move really seems questionable.

MetsFan4Decades April 20, 2009 at 12:22 am

Yikes. And that's my point exactly. Can't have enough depth as far as starters go. This move I don't get a all. Hopefully, Figgy winds up back in the organization but with so many starting rotations with injuries who knows if that will happen?

MickeyLolich April 20, 2009 at 12:30 am

I'm sure the Nats would not mind having Figs.

Brian April 20, 2009 at 12:38 am

can someone please explain something to me?
does this mean figgy needs to clear waivers or something? he was in the minors so he must have cleared waivers in spring training. doesn't that mean that they can send him back down without having to do it again?

I'm not clear on the rule, but I think this happened in another situation last year.

TheDirtySanchez April 20, 2009 at 12:40 am

i think he needs to clear waivers to go back to AAA

gipper913 April 20, 2009 at 12:42 am

Why wouldn't somebody pick him up???? I mean, the guy can pitch as a fifth starter on many teams and is a good long man / rotation depth guy.

BrianMetsFan April 20, 2009 at 12:43 am

I'm not sure that is true but if it is, I blame Omar. if that is true, they should have brought up a starter with options.
I'm still not sure he needs to clear waivers though.

BxMetsdude April 20, 2009 at 12:43 am

Even though he was in the minors, I'm pretty sure he was on the 40 man roster and protected from any rule 5 or anything like that previously. Since he has been DFA'd he been dropped from the 40 man and now has to clear waivers to get placed back into our minor league system.

Thats my understanding anyway.

MetsFan4Decades April 20, 2009 at 11:49 am

I checked the roster on mets.com when they said Pelf would miss a start. Figgy was NOT on the 40 man roster, according to them. Niese, Knight, Kunz, Muniz and Robertson were – but not Figgy. Interesting that Gee isn't on the 40 man either.

TRS86 April 20, 2009 at 11:54 am

Again, does no one remember how many times Figgy has cleared waivers?

BrianMetsFan April 20, 2009 at 12:13 am

reality check here.
this does not mean figgy is released, does it? it seems to imply that he now has to clear waivers. is that true? I didn't assume this to be the case.

looks at reality. stokes isn't pitching much and he can go multiple innings. parnell can go multiple innings. they need a short guy and preferably a lefty. I looked up the minor league stats this morning and fossum ahs been great thus far.

and if they need a starter before redding or garcia are ready, they have niese.

fxcarden April 20, 2009 at 12:20 am

Garcia, Redding, Niese………..boy are we loaded with talent or what ?.

Brian April 20, 2009 at 12:24 am

yeah, niese and redding are horrible options for spot starters.
what do you expect? if they are talented players, they wouldn;t be in the minors to begin with.
we are talking about spot starters here.

MickeyLolich April 20, 2009 at 12:29 am

I see your point…….problem is……….if someone goes down for say, 4 to 6 weeks….you know…..15 day DL….take it slow….some rehab….the spot starter is more of a visible weakness.

Brian April 20, 2009 at 12:32 am

so you want figgy as that 4 to 6 week solution?
remember what happened last year?
look. I like figgy too but he is a spot starter and in reality is not a better option than our other spot starter options.
there's really no way around it.

MosesMagnum April 20, 2009 at 12:45 am

So if that Happens, you rather go with Niese who can't get AAA hitters out? Now what if Maine has issues? Figgy isn't Pelfrey but he's a better option than Redding. Their must be something up that we don't know about.

DaveCfromNJ April 20, 2009 at 12:17 am

I'm getting tired of pitchers taking the blame for inability to score with RISP. Why didn't Jose steal home after that triple? Talk talk talk talk talk. we should have signed manny

Hernandez_1B April 20, 2009 at 12:24 am

Still with the Manny? Get over it.

zen April 20, 2009 at 12:29 am

He's right about Manny. This team needed a bat. We've been seeing the same problem since 2006 ended. They have very good players, but lack that extra spark offensively. They get their runs and stats un bunches.

They also need a #2 starter. I really like the guys on the staff, but Ollie should not have been re-signed. They should have either traded for a #2 or signed Sabathia.

At least Omar fixed the pen.

TheDirtySanchez April 20, 2009 at 12:38 am

i think they need a starter more than a bat….

CannonBoy13 April 20, 2009 at 1:30 am

You are 100% correct. This lineup just does not have that extra spark in it. They need sombody who can get the job done on a consistent basis. Something this team does not have.

TheDirtySanchez April 20, 2009 at 12:38 am

agreed

MosesMagnum April 20, 2009 at 12:59 am

I thought about Manny too. He pulled a Murphy and dropped a ball, but then hit 2 home runs to make up for it.

BxMetsdude April 20, 2009 at 1:04 am

Manny would have solved this problem easily. Its ridiculous, we all knew this would be a problem.

CaseStreet April 20, 2009 at 2:03 am

I thought you guys were joking at first. Manny and his $25M contract aren't the answer. He's only had 7 RBI's compared to Wright's 4 RBI's. Plus, if we had Manny there's no way we could talk about mid-season trades.

The teams problems so far have been SPing. Delgado and Beltran are doing well w/ RBIs. I do believe dropping Wright to 5th could help take some of the pressure off.

BxMetsdude April 20, 2009 at 12:24 am

Yea it doesn't really make much sense. I was wondering how they were gonna clear out space for Redding when he was ready to go. Looks like Fossum might be the stand in until he is ready.

darknova April 20, 2009 at 12:28 am

What is the timetable on Redding right now? I haven't heard anything about him in a while.

BxMetsdude April 20, 2009 at 12:35 am

He's scheduled to have a rehab assignment with Port St. Lucie on April 20. Not sure when he'll be MLB ready though.

Metsfan1 April 20, 2009 at 12:37 am

What I don't understand is the Mets do not want to put Pelfrey on the disabled list which may cause him to miss a whopping 3 starts. He already missed one. So by letting Pelfrey dictate the personnel on the roster, the Mets are forced to let go of Darren O'Day. They then bring someone up who does a decent job to let him go after the game. Why not just DL Pelfrey, save the pen and keep Figureoa up until Pelfrey is ready. Now we lose a starter and reliever. Great.

bkfitz April 20, 2009 at 12:53 am

Tendonitis is not a DL injury. Putting him on the DL is dumb.

Figuerora won't be picked up by anyone else. And really, if we lost him it's not the end of the world.

methead April 20, 2009 at 1:48 am

Samething happen to Nelson last year and he cleared waivers. Seriously, who cares????? I think people on this site were like "Nelson to start? why ???" LOL now look at us?

TheDirtySanchez April 20, 2009 at 12:39 am

should have signed ohman….but your right. With the way manuel manages, would be nice to have another lefty

MrMet05 April 20, 2009 at 12:41 am

i dont mind figgy getting reassigned. i mean hes got alot of heart on the mound but thats the nature of the game. what can ya do? we really need another lefty in the pen and while fossum probably isnt it, he can maybe get some lefties out for the time being so felicianos arm doesnt fall off by june. last year he was the classic case of being overworked. the glaring problem of this team is hitting w risp. its so obvious. we just dont get it done w runners on. i still would like to see wright and beltran swapped in the order. i feel like wright will have a lil less pressure on him in that 5 hole. i feel like he thinks hes gotta be "THE MAN" batting 3rd.
also, beltran is more of a fastball line drive hitter. thats better used in the 3 hole. wright i feel is a better rbi man than beltran over the long haul and is MORE suited for the 5spot than beltran is. and even if im wrong, its worth a shot mixing it up cause right now wright just isnt getting it done in the 3hole. he keeps pulling off and getting beat on the outside corner fastball. maybe a switch will mix things up. worth a shot

BxMetsdude April 20, 2009 at 12:54 am

I totally agree with you with flip flopping Wright and Beltran. Only thing is, with Wright struggling right now, teams can pitch around Delgado more. Beltran is protecting Delgado well right now. I think Jerry watched them rake in the WBC in this same lineup order and decided to carry it over when they got back, and it has worked.

MrMet05 April 20, 2009 at 1:01 am

but maybe if wright sees delgado getting pitched around that would motivate him even more ya know? wrights problem is simple. he needs to start taking the ball to right field again. he stopped doing that starting the 2nd half of 07. while hes still put up good numbers as a pull hitter i feel hes traded his .325-.330 potential for maybe an extra 5-10hrs. hojo just has to get him going back to right field and tell him listen, u are gonna hit 25 hrs this year…but u are gonna knock in 130runs and bat .330. wright is capable of that. wright isnt a .303 hitter like last year. hes a .330 hitter. hes getting beat on that outside fastball. all of 06 and half of 07 that was NEVER the case. hed drive right thru it and go to right field gap. i dunno what changed. but its killing me seeing him pulling off like that. hes better than that.

BxMetsdude April 20, 2009 at 1:13 am

You're right, he hasn't been going opposite field as much as before. The pull hitting is leading to all these strikeouts we're seeing from him. You think they'll try to let him work through it before moving him down? I wanted Beltran in the 3 hole from the start to be honest.

Its weird, Wright seems like a totally different player with RISP. He can get on leading off pretty well but it looks like he's trying to do too much as soon as you get a man on second.

MrMet05 April 20, 2009 at 1:31 am

u remember those classic wright at bats? down 0-2…and then his at bat started. hed foul pitches off, work the count back to 2-2, 3-2. he lost that of late. and i think its tied to that 3 hole. i feel if he gets dropped down alot of pressure would be taken off him cause beltran and delgado would already have had chances to knock the runs in. and if he gets hot u could always switch him back to the 3 if u want. sometimes a minor change like swapping 2 guys in the order is all the lineup needs to get going. and going from 3 to 5 isnt a demotion. 3-4-5 are all the PRIME rbi spots in the order ya know? i can see them giving him another week or so to fight thru it but i think if hes still struggling to get them in, well see a swap of some sorts. i think the move just makes sense anyway. i never seen beltran as a number 5 hitter. hes more of a line drive get on base, run the bases kinda player. also, i like what we see from omir santos so far. looks quick and confident behind the dish and puts good swings on the ball…schneider can take his time coming back as far as im concerned lol

7train April 20, 2009 at 1:38 am

maybe the change they need is a new hitting coach… it seems as though everyone has the same problem with risp.. so maybe they just need a different approach.

MrMet05 April 20, 2009 at 1:41 am

i agree with you on that as well. hojo was a pull happy .250 hitter for the most part lol. and wright got very left field oriented once he came aboard for rick down. but i dont think hojo will ever get fired so long as wright is on the team. they are like best friends.

7train April 20, 2009 at 1:56 am

ever think maybe HOJO's the problem??

MrMet05 April 20, 2009 at 2:04 am

i have though that, yes

gipper913 April 20, 2009 at 12:43 am

This just doesn't make sense.

grandslamsingle April 20, 2009 at 12:54 am

man, that budweiser ad is enormous, biggest one in the park. how much do you think that costs?

steve April 20, 2009 at 1:07 am

figueroa offers nothing extra that any other AAAA caliber player couldnt do.

voice of reason April 20, 2009 at 1:16 am

If I'm not mistaken Figgy cleared waivers 2-3 times last year. For a team to take him he'd have to be placed on the major league roster and what team will do that? GM's have a gentleman's agreement that they won't take a veteran dfa'd player unless it's a long term fix…. Nelson Figueroa is not a long term fix for anyone and will clear waivers yet again.

Furioso April 20, 2009 at 3:10 am

Says who? Look at a team like Angels who needed Darren Oliver to make a start because of pitching issues.

voice of reason April 20, 2009 at 10:57 am

Figueroa is better then Darren Oliver…..really? We'll see about that.

JerryKoosman April 20, 2009 at 1:21 am

Hi. In the last 12 games, I have 8 times.
It is April 19.

I predict my arm will fall off by June.

Signed,
Pedro Feliciano

CP Munk April 20, 2009 at 1:22 am

they may as well have had Stokes start today…they could have at least kept O'Day

JerryKoosman April 20, 2009 at 1:23 am

Hi. In the last 12 games, I have pitched 8 times.

Which means I am on track to pitch in 120 games this year.
My arm will fall off by June.
This approach did not work the past two years.

Pedro Feliciano

#1 Joe McEwing Fan April 20, 2009 at 1:46 am

I just saw that Philip Humber was designated for assignment, could that be a move that the Mets make after likely losing both Figueroa and O'Day. Claim Humber off of waivers and assign him to Triple-A Buffalo. Why not give the kid a shot back where it started? And let's not criticize every move that Omar makes, Johan for Gomez straight up, since Guerra, Humber and Mulvey have not even sniffed the majors in over a year now.

7train April 20, 2009 at 1:51 am

ummm……NO!!!

JoeGoNets April 20, 2009 at 1:46 am

I don't understand why they couldn't have had Parnell or Stokes start a game. They have 12 pitchers, for pete's sake. I know that it would mess with the precious relief carousel but give me a break.

Give me back the days when the Mets had Lockwood, Apodaca, and a couple of scrubs in the pen. This Tony Larussa 1 inning/1 batter nonsense is just that, nonsense.

7train April 20, 2009 at 1:49 am

ummm

Bucknersankles April 20, 2009 at 2:01 am

HEY FRED,
BETCHA MANRAM AND LOWE ARE LOOKING REAL GOOD NOW HUH.

Bucknersankles April 20, 2009 at 2:06 am

NOT TO WORRY PEOPLE, LOOK AT THE BRIGHT SIDE ……………………… WE GOT THE JACKIE ROBINSON ROTUNDA ……………….. YEA !

MrMet05 April 20, 2009 at 2:07 am

thats why im ok w this move cause if fossum could AT LEAST get some lefties out feliciano wouldnt have to get up n down every day.

Hit The Weights April 20, 2009 at 2:38 am

Pedro is a LOOGY and until he is treated as such he will continue to be overworked and gas out in july.

CaseStreet April 20, 2009 at 2:08 am

You peeps are amazing. A few days ago many were crying cuz Figgy was gonna be called up. Now ur crying cuz he got DFA'd?

This is the last bullpen spot we're talking about, right? Is there no room for adjustment? Wouldn't Redding or Garcia push that person out anyway?

And for those that feel bad for Figgy, why? If he gets picked up on waivers, we'll get prospects in return and he'll be on a major league roster. If he doesn't then he'll be back in Buffalo and could be called up again in the future. So again, why feel bad?

rockincoffee April 20, 2009 at 3:11 am

prospects in return?huh?we get no prospect in return.only prospect we get is the prospect of him signing with us again to a minor league deal.

Bucknersankles April 20, 2009 at 2:13 am

HEY WE MAY NOT HAVE MANRAM ( WHO IS POISED FOR ANOTHER DYNAMIC SEASON ) AND WE MAY NOT HAVE LOWE ( WHO WOULD HAVE ADDED REAL STABILITY TO OUR "ROTATION" ) BUT WE HAVE ………………………… DRUM ROLL PLEASE ……………………….. THE JACKIE ROBINSON ROTUNDA ……………… YEA !

dave27a April 20, 2009 at 2:18 am

Redding will claim this spot soon anyway. Try keeping the big picture in mind…

Vic April 20, 2009 at 2:42 am

Yea ur right……….how far along is he?

7train April 20, 2009 at 3:02 am

and the hits just keep on coming

elborii April 20, 2009 at 2:19 am

im sorry to say that if thise team cant keep a lead man were not getting nowhere i mean we have a great bp now the prob is the starters and no1 is batting

thrilledge 4 prez April 20, 2009 at 2:23 am

did i just fart?

Vic April 20, 2009 at 2:38 am

I agree why did they not just give the ball to Stokes on the spot start and keep O'Day………….oh well I guess it's good that Fossum brings a second lefty to the pen and they have that Taskashi something er rather in the minors and Ron Villone now too

Poor Figgy did well too. Wonder if anyone will take him or if he just ends up back at AAA Buffalo

elborii April 20, 2009 at 2:38 am

thise is rediculouse already im fed up with the offense

elborii April 20, 2009 at 2:42 am

question do yall think were going to make it at thise rate?

DWrightblows April 20, 2009 at 2:45 am

We can't put Sheffield in the lineup. I know Manuel wants to give him some ab's but it kills the team. Church is so much better.

gipper913 April 20, 2009 at 5:48 am

Certainly not against a righty who has owned him!!!

DWrightblows April 20, 2009 at 2:48 am

David Wright is just like A-ROD. He always has huge stats every year but can't get any big hits. Please trade him for Lincecum.

iop34 April 20, 2009 at 5:51 am

yeah youre right. having tim lincecum pitching every five days is going to do wonders for the mets run output…

jrome April 20, 2009 at 9:30 am

naturally jerry with bat lincecum 3rd on the days he's pitching and absolutely rake in the clutch

elborii April 20, 2009 at 2:55 am

so0o every1 ollie wins tuesday?

rockincoffee April 20, 2009 at 3:09 am

totally agree..always gets runs to get close ..never the go ahead or the most important runs…its a double play..its a sytikeout…its a soft looper to the second baseman,ugh.

blains2000 April 20, 2009 at 4:03 am

Not like he ever hits a game tying 3 R hr with 2 outs. Oh that's right, he did. Nevermind.

KL15 April 20, 2009 at 3:09 am

I understand your concern, but for some reason I think the Marlins will come crashing back to Earth as fast as their meteoric rise.

zen April 20, 2009 at 3:14 am

Why?

4/19: Attendance: 36,124 (62.9% full)
4/18: Attendance: 36,312 (63.3% full)
4/17: Attendance: 36,436 (63.5% full)

4/16: Attendance: 35,985 (62.7% full)
4/15: Attendance: 35,581 (62% full)
4/13: Attendance: 41,007 (71.4% full)

zen April 20, 2009 at 3:23 am

Last year for the first 6 games at Shea the lowest attendance was 48,755.

HokieMet April 20, 2009 at 3:35 am

Your percentages appear to be off. CitiField seats 42,000, those percentages are for a stadium that seats 54,000.

zen April 20, 2009 at 3:52 am

Percentages are from ESPN and are off.

That's not the important part anyway. Why aren't fans going to the new stadium? Is it the cost? The team? Curious.

MosesMagnum April 20, 2009 at 4:11 am

I'm gonna say that fans are just not happy with the fact that we choked 2 years straight..they didn't bring in a bat or quality starter, then they raised prices…AGAIN. If we got off to a hot start attendance might be better, but as of now this team is under performing for a third year in a row.

gipper913 April 20, 2009 at 5:57 am

Zen, until they start selling SRO tix, the capacity IS 41,007, as mentioned by Gary Cohen on the broadcast and in numerous articles after the opener. Do a Google search.

So, actually:

4/19: Attendance: 36,124 (88.1% full)
4/18: Attendance: 36,312 (88.6% full)
4/17: Attendance: 36,436 (88.9% full)

4/16: Attendance: 35,985 (87.8% full)
4/15: Attendance: 35,581 (86.8% full)
4/13: Attendance: 41,007 (100.0% full)

Those are excellent numbers for early April games against non-division opponents. I'd hazard a guess that those are better than the first homestand at Shea over the last few years (85.5 lowest last year at Shea opening homestand using your figure) and DEFINITELY a better percentage of those actually through the turnstiles (not that they publish those numbers anymore). There were tons of (even mid-Summer) games at Shea with near sellout "attendance" figures (i.e. seats sold) but closer to a 2/3rds or less full stadium as far as fannies in the seats.

PeterB April 20, 2009 at 2:36 pm

The answer is simple. Tickets cost way too much. The only seats available are those on the lower level in the infield….at least $250 and up. Who the hell is going to pay this ridiculous price?

zen April 20, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Gipper.

Mets fans have been waiting decades for a new ballpark and they can't fill a 41,00o seat ballpark during the first few games in NYC? Something is happening here. Either the cost or the attittude toward the team.

I admitted that the % was off. It was taken from ESPN. Still the avg for last year's first 6 was about 50,000. Is this the right way to go? And I love the new ballpark. Beautiful.

BringBackDaveT April 20, 2009 at 3:17 am

As much as I like Omar as a GM he does a horrid job managing the roster. The 3 catcher thing last year along made no sense since Castro never pinch hit. O'Day should have stayed and they should have just used Stokes as a spot starter today. With Johan going yesterday and an off day on Monday, the pen would have been fine.

shamWOWmets April 20, 2009 at 3:21 am

The guy gave up 3 runs in 6 innings of work, in one start. That's much better than Maine, Ollie, and Pelfrey. He can be good out of the pen, given those 3 are still unstable.

mittal87 April 20, 2009 at 3:28 am

Eh, overreact much? You can nitpick this all you want, yes we are potentially losing 2 players (I doubt Figueroa gets picked up though, we was on waivers last year also and did not get picked up). However I did not exactly see any ideas on what the proper roster management technique would have been here…

You can place Pelfrey on the DL, but then 10 days later Figueroa has to be DFA'd anyways. We can keep O'day this way, but Pelfrey loses 2 more starts, I don't think the mets management wanted that.

You can send down Parnell and bring him up 10 days later for Figueroa, however the fact that the roster moves were made the way they were made tells me that mets management prefers to have a lefty in that final bullpen slot. Oh yea, and Figueroa is still DFA'd 10 days later using this technique.

Besides, the player that was going to get cut once Redding is activated is O'Day. For all intents and purposes, we were probably going to lose him anyways. We can also keep Figeroa up as the last man in the bullpen, but once again the fact that we did not tells me the mets prefer to have a lefty in that final slot.

playoffs???!!! April 20, 2009 at 3:29 am

when will people realize that this team has won only one division title in the last 20 years and not to expect anything from such a profit minded ownership. when you realize that only 35 thousand fans going to games to start the season is better for the wilpons that if 48 thousand were going like last year, you realize quickly it aint about the fans or winning at all. just making money paying players who put up enough numbers to be decent but not enough to win anything. especially not when theres a good team in our division on any given year. game over.

bkfitz April 19, 2009 at 11:33 pm

Matt,

If the Mets wanted to keep O'Day, they'd have to keep him on the roster all year. That is going to limit their moves in the future. Letting him go allows for more changes to be made.

Adding Fossum gives Jerry another lefty. If you hadn't noticed, Feliciano is up and throwing in the pen just about every game. While he may not come into a game, warming up every game is going to wear him out a bit.

The only move we should be questioning today is why Jerry put in 2 righties against a righty.

Sylar April 19, 2009 at 11:37 pm

Another lefty….

Fossum is terrible, and if the Mets never intended to keep O'Day, then they should have just signed Will Ohman

bkfitz April 20, 2009 at 12:29 am

Fossum has done well in AAA.

Ohman is overrated. Before last year, he sucked. There was a reason why they called him Will "Oh, man"

ifti99 April 20, 2009 at 3:33 am

I cant believe people here are concerned over Figeroa. The guy has a career major league record of 10-21 with a 4.63 ERA and hes gonna be 35 next month. Sounds real promising.

He pitched ok tonight but honestly, he has very little value.

HokieMet April 20, 2009 at 3:35 am

sorry, 57,000

playoffs???!!! April 20, 2009 at 3:47 am

35,000 fans as opposed to the usual 50,000 and there's no excitement because really how excited can you get over luis castillo being our best hitter right now. and you go to a game, teams wearing black jerseys and black hats, entire stadium is green and dark gray which tributes to the brooklyn dodgers everywhere. the mets fan just want reasonably priced tickets and food, blue and orange evrywhere, and a manny ramirez to be excited about seeing. and we get none of that.

CaseStreet April 20, 2009 at 4:05 am

I'll go with combination of economy and impression that they are priced out of the ballpark. It seems that in both years there are 6K seats available. I wonder if scalpers have many tix locked up.

thrilledge 4 prez April 20, 2009 at 4:07 am

ur a H.O.M.O. get a life

blains2000 April 20, 2009 at 4:12 am

Hmmm…your name is based on a guy who just got sent down to AAA. But okay. Anyway they said NEVER. I gave an example. But people have selective memories.

Not sure why the supposed fans of this team spend all of their time hating on their players. Why not find and root for a team where you know you actually like the players? It will be more fun trust me.

darknova April 20, 2009 at 11:25 am

I called that homerun clutch a few days ago on here and got jumped on. Apparently something can only be clutch if we wind up winning the game. Don't let the haters get you down, blains2000.

fongulalou April 20, 2009 at 4:07 am

Write your comment here…

CaseStreet April 20, 2009 at 4:09 am

After designating a player for assignment, the club must make one of the following contractual moves:

* Place the player on waivers (which can only be done within the first 7 days of the 10-day period)
* Trade the player
* Release the player

mr_met April 20, 2009 at 8:27 am

because we're not heartless like you? he pitched well today, and he gets no reward but gets sent down.sheff hits a solo home run (which turned out to be his 500th) and got rewarded by starting. something's not right.

mr_met April 20, 2009 at 8:31 am

i meant he got dfa'd.

jrome April 20, 2009 at 9:31 am

am i mistaken in thinking that Sheff had an alright outing last night?

fongulalou April 20, 2009 at 4:17 am

3 reactions: RE: Omar is a fumbler, Ya Think!?!?
In addition to being World Class chokers, Can we ever just sweep a series?
Ever?—To all the "we need a 2nd Lefty in the Pen"advocates,SayHello to
Casey Fossum. He has No Idea what hes gotten himself into.
Oh, But don't worry, We've got Omar at the wheel!

Jpitt April 20, 2009 at 4:34 am

Figgy pitched great, looked much better than pelfrey has, why on earth would they give up a smart pitcher like that. That makes no sense, less sense than not bunting with Tatis with runners on first and second. Sometimes these people really make you wonder. I would take Figgy anyday as a 5th starter or bullpen guy.

Hitmaker37 April 20, 2009 at 5:59 am

jared???????

Steviefan84 April 20, 2009 at 5:05 am

Mets should of been happy with the way Figueroa pitched. Anytime you can get 6 innings of 3 run ball from a 5th starter type reliever I think he deserves to stay. Of course since the offense came up short it doesn't look as good as if they scored say 4 or 5 runs. Maybe Mets catch some major and have Fossum pitch well for them.

Steviefan84 April 20, 2009 at 5:06 am

Mets should of been happy with the way Figueroa pitched. Anytime you can get 6 innings of 3 run ball from a 5th starter type reliever I think he deserves to stay. Of course since the offense came up short it doesn't look as good as if they scored say 4 or 5 runs. Maybe Mets catch some magic and have Fossum pitch well for them.

run7run April 20, 2009 at 1:18 am

i agree, matt. omar bumbles these moves. how he lost flores to washington i'll never know.

CaseStreet April 20, 2009 at 2:14 am

Omar admitted that was one of his biggest regrets.

wnymetsfan April 20, 2009 at 2:31 am

Omar did admit he regrets that as one of his bigger mistakes but to be honest Flores was a class A catcher at the time. Typically you do not need to protect class A guys becaue few teams can essentially keep the plpayer on their roster. Hopefully Thole can continue to rake and can fill C at CitiField for a long time.

cape mets April 20, 2009 at 5:21 am

Some good news is that the Phillies starters have the worst E.R.A in all of baseball.

Tom April 20, 2009 at 5:52 am

I kind of saw the O'Day thing coming, but quicker than expected. He wasn't terrible, but was the weakest of our reliever's. From what I was taking it, Omar is confident Pelfrey will make his next start. Otherwise, he wouldn't have risked losing Figueroa. After this start, and that WBC, there's no reason to believe why he couldn't have contributed. I understand there's no place for him in the rotation right now though. Omar probably didn't want to have two long relievers. I don't like this move. I guess Fossum is worth a shot. If it doesn't work with him, Takahashi will probably get a shot too.

Tom April 20, 2009 at 5:54 am

I just don't think Jerry Manuel and Omar Minaya are on the same page though. Clearly, this was Omar's move. Jerry's emphasizes how he does his best to reward player's for success. We can see how he's done so with Sheffield, Castillo and Santos just over the last few days. So this is Figueroa's reward? My guess is this was the plan all along, unless he threw like a shut out. He was good and did give it his all successfully working out of lots of jams. Maybe they'd look at it differently if he actually got adequate run support off a struggling pitcher, but it's not wise to take good pitching performances for granted.

Metfan412 April 20, 2009 at 3:36 am

I hope he clears waivers,and comes back to AAA.I just look back at Tim Redding and his contract.Think about this,Tim Redding signs his biggest contract,ready to come to the Mets with his first chance to win with a quality team.So what does he do,he shows up to spring training overweight and with a tired arm.Way to show how much this team and chance means to you.

Tony April 20, 2009 at 10:29 am

Let me get this straight. You "think" Omar fumbles the ball? He's a disaster as a general manager. He has made so many screwups, it's disgusting.

ghost April 20, 2009 at 11:06 am

How dare you criticize the Jerry? Perfect decision playing a 40 year has been into the line up. you want him to make the GM look good don't you? Wgen will the boo birds at city ever get to turn and cheer for Church's 500th HR. NEVER.

ghost April 20, 2009 at 11:08 am

Attendance not 100%??? funny, Mewt fans would criticze other teams' fans for not selling out a new park. Can't even sell out a new park with a small market capacity.

TRS86 April 20, 2009 at 11:51 am

I can't believe how short sighted Matt seems to be sometimes. Come on Matt. Do you not remember that Figgy has been DFa'd about 5 times and no one has clamied him? Or the fact that he WANTS to stay with the Mets so does not have to sign with anyone else? He will be back at AAA. As for O'day, I think he could have been useful but lets not kid ourselves he would have been gone at some point during the season and most likely when Redding comes back. Might as well bring up someone else to give some junk innings in his stead.
These moves are not going to make a difference at all. Do you think that someone all of a sudden would want Figgy after 5 other chances? Maybe but hardly likely.

TRS86 April 20, 2009 at 11:55 am

Ok, this is about the most confusing blog format ever. I like change but ……

iamatwork April 20, 2009 at 12:35 pm

The Brewers have 1 regular who hits lefty (Fielder) – why would you call up a lefty to face them? Bad bad bad.

Agees_Catch April 20, 2009 at 12:38 pm

The guy who really killed us yesterday was Delgado. Baseloaded, 1 out and a sac fly ties it. But how do you kill a guy who was 3rd in the NL in RBI at the time?

Make it so #1. Humber would slot in nicely at AAA and could find his mojo

Anthony April 20, 2009 at 12:40 pm

stokes should have been the spot starter

clendenon22mvp April 20, 2009 at 12:42 pm

well boys, what did i say about the offense?

PeterB April 20, 2009 at 2:34 pm

I had a bigger issue with Razor Shines not sending Beltran when Sheffield doubled off the wall with two outs. You have to take the chance on getting that runner to the plate late in the game. Particularly, since this team can't buy a two out rbi…ever.

James Bond April 20, 2009 at 5:03 pm

If we had Manny this would never happen.

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