News: Perez DL’d, Niese To Start Friday

May 6, 2009 at 22:22 pm · 101 comments

by Mike Nichols

Oliver Perez will be placed on the 15-day disabled list with patella tendinitis, according to Omar Minaya, who talked with reporters following the game.

“I felt like I could continue to pitch, but I want to get healthy and I want to feel better,” Perez told reporters following tonight’s game.  “It’s a good decision, because I want to be healthy all season long and try to help my team.”

Taking Perez’s spot on the 25-man roster will be Jonathan Niese, who will make his first start of 2009 on Friday.

Niese is 0-2 with a 6.55 ERA in five starts for Triple-A Buffalo this season.

{ 101 comments }

Dirtysanchez May 6, 2009 at 10:23 pm

Shocker…..

The Stache May 7, 2009 at 12:34 am

not to call absolute bs but I was at the game today early enough today to catch warmups and bp. Ollie was throwing fine not grimacing and was snagging flyballs in center. Some knee injury

gogomets May 7, 2009 at 7:54 am

bravo sierra

Ricardus May 7, 2009 at 9:57 am

Yeah!!! So we should let him pitch…

The Stache May 7, 2009 at 2:17 pm

Still a Mickey Mouse Franchise way of doing things. That’s the point.

The Slider May 7, 2009 at 12:52 am

Does this organization have any clue what it’s doing? I mean, that question must now be asked and answered.

Xavier22 May 7, 2009 at 9:35 am

You can ask all you want, but they ain’t never gonna ‘fess up to the obvious. The front office doesn’t have a pair of balls among the whole lot of ‘em.

We Were Throwbacks May 6, 2009 at 10:24 pm

YES!

PelfreyCyYoung09 May 6, 2009 at 11:02 pm

LOL! I was scared that i was gonna be the only one to react that way. Patella Tendinitis? wtf? *wiki time*

We Were Throwbacks May 6, 2009 at 10:25 pm

This is huge

Super King May 6, 2009 at 10:25 pm

Come on Niese, earn that spot

gipperPDX May 6, 2009 at 10:27 pm

No shock here. Still, I would like to have seen Tkahashi get the start – love what he gave us the other day, and isn’t Niese stinking it up in the minors? Figgy instead? Oh well….anybody is better than Ollie.

MetsFan4Decades May 6, 2009 at 10:29 pm

Bad April for Niese but went 6 innings, 1 run in his last start.

gipperPDX May 6, 2009 at 10:33 pm

Good to know. Plus, I guess Takahashi’s arm isn;t stretched out.

PS: how can a fan for decades have the BLACK logo as an avatar???? Mets fans are true to the orange and blue!

MetsFan4Decades May 6, 2009 at 10:40 pm

hahaha – ’cause I like the black. Always did. Probably a female thing (yes, I’m female).
It’s tiny, but it’s got the orange and blue….

MetsFan4Decades May 6, 2009 at 10:42 pm

I’ve got both the blue and the black warm up jackets. I know most guys on this site always complain when they take the field with those black jerseys…..

Tommy2cat May 6, 2009 at 11:55 pm

I like McNuggets, Yo…
I like McNuggets, Yo…

MetsFan4Decades May 6, 2009 at 10:27 pm

O.K.
If Ollie is on the DL, I don’t mind seeing what Niese has got Friday against the Pirates.

Hope that is not a phantom injury. If he’s got some knee problems, then maybe that is the reason he’s been so God awful this year and his velocity is down some. Get him healthy, see if that makes a difference.

npanzeca May 6, 2009 at 10:30 pm

I agree, lets get him healthy, give Niese a shot and see what happens.

2009_believe May 6, 2009 at 10:28 pm

IF this is a real injury then at least it explains why he sucked so much

Wilford May 6, 2009 at 10:29 pm

I’d prefer Figgy but at least the cancer is gone for a few weeks.

npanzeca May 6, 2009 at 10:30 pm

Ollie has struggled but hes hardly a cancer.

My Favorite Baseball Squadron May 6, 2009 at 10:33 pm

To steal a phrase from the stubbed finger lady for the smokers quitline commercials…”maimed, yes I’m maimed from watching Oliver Perez”.

GravediggerHebner May 6, 2009 at 10:47 pm

Every season the Mets have one commercial that forces me to change the channel quickly each time it comes on. This season it’s ‘finger lady’ replacing ‘breathing hole guy.’

Nealosaurus May 6, 2009 at 11:11 pm

For the last 3 freakin’ years, for me anyway, it was those horrible, HORRIBLE Guiseppe Franco commercials with Gary Busey for ProCede. I swear there was one on every break… “Men, stop hiding your problem and do somethin about it!”

JarvisJanesAddiction May 7, 2009 at 7:41 am

Have Guissepe Franco replace Ollie. I hear he’s a lefty, has a nasty “cutter”, and no one can hit a Pro-Cede covered ball!

The Stache May 7, 2009 at 9:06 am

I can’t believe they actually the anti-smoking ad on the jumbovision at the game last night….it was the one where a guy in a medical gown kept getting told he has a 1000 different diseases. Is that really necessary?

Tidewater May 6, 2009 at 11:01 pm

LMFAO!!!!!

Nealosaurus May 6, 2009 at 11:16 pm

Every once in a while, if you were lucky, the producers at SNY would mess up and you would be treated to it not once but TWICE in a break! Wow!

Tommy2cat May 6, 2009 at 11:56 pm

I like McNuggets, Yo…
I like McNuggets, Yo…

Gland May 6, 2009 at 10:30 pm

Hmm. Niese hasn’t been pitching well in AAA. But I didn’t really want Kawakami to start either. I’m not ready to annoint him after a a few good innings in one game.

npanzeca May 6, 2009 at 10:31 pm

But he did pitch well the last time out. 1 run in 6IP

Gland May 6, 2009 at 10:33 pm

Nice, ok thanks that’s a little better then. Some signs of improvement

MetFanInCali May 7, 2009 at 1:39 am

Kawakami pitches for the Braves, but we knew what you meant.

My Favorite Baseball Squadron May 6, 2009 at 10:30 pm

The only thing that surprises me about this decision is that they didn’t wait until the trip out west and then do it at 3 AM EST after an Ollie win.

docgoodens8ball May 6, 2009 at 10:32 pm

^
hahahahaha!!!!

MetFanInCali May 7, 2009 at 1:41 am

Great idea, and one of the best names on here. Apu rules.

docgoodens8ball May 6, 2009 at 10:31 pm

Is anybody really stunned by this news?

npanzeca May 6, 2009 at 10:32 pm

Guess there was some truth about the knee problem.

Dirtysanchez May 6, 2009 at 10:32 pm

well….hasnt niese been bad in AAA?

npanzeca May 6, 2009 at 10:34 pm

Pitched well last outing.

njmatt May 6, 2009 at 10:37 pm

Hahahaha! Patella tendonitis??

What a wimp (I want to use harsher words). Just get a cho-pat.

http://www.cho-pat.com/

Seriously, why would you give a guy who goes on the DL for runner’s knee a 3 year contract?

njmatt May 6, 2009 at 10:38 pm

I’m sorry tendinitis…quick type job.

Seriously, I think anyone who does moderate amounts of exercise nurses some form of patella tendinitis.

dkallert May 6, 2009 at 10:39 pm

I wonder if Ollie know’s which knee is “hurt”

The Slider May 7, 2009 at 12:53 am

LOL

The Slider May 7, 2009 at 12:57 am

I was laughing so hard I forgot to add that Ollie already answered that question. When he was asked at a recent press conference which knee it was, he had to look down at his knees to see which one the bandage was on before he correctly answered “the right” (which is, of course, not his push-off leg, which is more significant).

therealsince86 May 6, 2009 at 10:42 pm

Actually surprised that Elmer Fud D. did not get the call. Niese does make sense in the fact that he has options. At least it’s the Pirates.

GravediggerHebner May 6, 2009 at 10:46 pm

I haven’t seen the Bucs yet this year but don’t they have a significant number of LH hitters in their lineup? I think Morgan, McLouth, LaRoche and Doumit are LH, could be wrong. Bottom line as you said, it IS the Pirates.

rosejeyes May 7, 2009 at 12:11 am

doumit is injured for the next cpl weeks

njmatt May 6, 2009 at 10:44 pm

Also, one more addition, if it was bad enough that he couldn’t pitch or do any exercise, you wouldn’t have seen him walking around the last few days without a limp. Patella tendinitis HURTS when it’s bad enough to keep you sitting. Otherwise it’s manageable.

Personally I’m glad, never wanted to resign the guy in the first place. Hopefully Niese steps up and claims Ollie’s spot.

therealsince86 May 6, 2009 at 10:55 pm

Your glad? You never want to see him again? I did not want him either but I hope he comes back and makes Omar look like a friggin genius myself.

MetsFan4Decades May 6, 2009 at 10:57 pm

+1

njmatt May 6, 2009 at 11:34 pm

Love it when people misconstrue what you say and put words in your mouth.

I’m fairly sure you don’t see the words: “I never want to see him again” in my post, but thanks for trying!

What I’m glad about is that they aren’t keeping him around while he struggles. In the past 5+ years, the Mets would generally let a guy who struggles have 8-10 more starts before they even consider a change.

Look, I was against signing him, but as I always tell people: I would love nothing more than to eat my words.

Once again, thanks for trying, but you fail.

therealsince86 May 7, 2009 at 7:52 am

If Niese steps up and takes his spot, WE ALL will fail.

nyj0126 May 6, 2009 at 10:46 pm

Placing Ollie on the DL doesn’t shock me, but calling up Niese, considering he’s not doing well does. I wouldn’t have minded seeing Takahashi get a turn. Or Dillon Gee. Or Figgy again.

mouserdz May 6, 2009 at 10:47 pm

It’s obvious the Perez is not hurt. Is there a reason why the mets need to lie and put him on the DL? Why not just send him to the minors.

therealsince86 May 6, 2009 at 10:53 pm

Hopefully he IS hurt. But yes there is a reason. He can turn down the demotion. This way he can always say that it was a DL. Looks a whole lot better on Boras’s resume.

wnymetsfan May 7, 2009 at 8:52 am

Also as a vet I believe they can only keep him down there for 30 days. By placing him on the DL he can work on the side, then go to St Lucie to work on things and pitch in simulated games before making rehab starts in the minors. This actually gives him more time in the minors to work stuff out.

njmatt May 6, 2009 at 10:53 pm

I think it was last night or the night before, Gary (or a beat writer) had a really good point…do the Mets really want to let Perez out of their sights again?

Last time they did was the WBC.

When the Pirates sent him down before trading him to the Mets he didn’t put in his work in the minors and apparently just talked about how much money he was making. Well, he’s making more now.

I was all for sending him to the minors, let him fix his issues and I don’t have to hear about him, but I wonder if it really IS the best move.

therealsince86 May 6, 2009 at 10:54 pm

That report is pure hearsay.

GravediggerHebner May 6, 2009 at 10:55 pm

It’s a valid point, but this time he’ll be with Met organization coaches following Met organization plans every step of the way, unlike the WBC.

ericloz May 6, 2009 at 11:51 pm

They had to get the FBI to remove Rick Peterson out of the Witness Protection Program and wait for the plastic surgery to heal before bringing him in under an assumed name to fix Ollie again.

wnymetsfan May 7, 2009 at 8:54 am

Maybe Rick can borrow Bobby V’s moustache disquise

losmets57 May 6, 2009 at 10:54 pm

Test.

QnsNative718 May 6, 2009 at 10:55 pm

test

MainStMets May 6, 2009 at 10:56 pm

heres a big shock, this one reeks as bad as wang’s weak hips lol

lets go niese, hope this works out well for him

could OP become the met version of carl pavano lol

therealsince86 May 6, 2009 at 10:57 pm

Ok Krunk just said it hurts him to say that Johan is an athlete because he is a pitcher. I wonder …… insert punchline here.

therealsince86 May 6, 2009 at 11:00 pm

And Steve Phillips is an idiot.

GravediggerHebner May 6, 2009 at 11:00 pm

Kruk was a good hitter, but most every stock car driver is a better athlete than he was.

therealsince86 May 6, 2009 at 11:01 pm

Now days for sure. Have you seen those stock car drivers lately? They evidently have started to give a damn.

GravediggerHebner May 6, 2009 at 11:06 pm

Yeah, they get more endorsement money if they aren’t fat slobs. Plus, handling the G-forces from driving almost 200mph for 4 hours straight requires a certain amount of strength and endurance.

Nealosaurus May 6, 2009 at 11:14 pm

As much as F1 has stunk lately, those Nascar drivers still have nothin’ on their F1 counterparts. Just a side note…

Dirtysanchez May 6, 2009 at 11:23 pm

as much as kruck is an idiot i give him credit on one exchange with another idiot in steve phillips. The topic was run support for johan. Steve said it is a “subconscious” effort on behalf of the hitters as they are stitting in the dugout watching johan do his thing. Kruck said that is impossible as they are either all in the dugout or when johan is pitching they are on the field. Steve continued to fight his point but kruk just made him look more stupid by the second….

grotesmask May 6, 2009 at 11:28 pm

Didn’t Mo Vaughn have a patella problem?

ericloz May 6, 2009 at 11:53 pm

That was a “Paella” problem not Patella problem.

It was part of his see-food diet

catlos delado May 6, 2009 at 11:46 pm

hope this is the real cause as to why ollie’s been so terrible. get healty, and come back and pitch well for us again (with more jekyll and far less hyde…).

The_Voice May 7, 2009 at 12:00 am

***** THE VOICE *****
LOG VER: 4.0-A

=== Conspiracy Theory??? ===

Ok so Oliver Perez is sent to the dl
last night due to an MRI revealing
he has Patellar tendinitis which long
story short means he has inflamation
of the Tendon.

I am sure many are happy just to see
Oliver Perez go away for a while
(out of sight out of mind)
to coin a phrase.

Many feel this is just a phantom Injury.
To allow him to get his mechanics straight.
I myself am leaning that way.
It definitely seemed to conveniently
come out of nowhere.

On the surface this does explain a lot
his lack of velocity most of all.

But you have to ask what if it’s a legit
injury?

If it is, doesn’t that open up more questions?

For example,
Perez was quoted as saying he 1st felt
discomfort back in Spring Training.

If that’s true when did the Mets 1st know?

If he felt it back in Spring was the WBC to blame?

Did his lack of preparation have anything to do with it?

Did the Mets know and chose to keep pitching him
regardless? I find it hard to believe they would risk
further injury of their newly signed pitcher.

Did Perez hide his discomfort and therefore
it took till now for Mets to finally do an MRI?

Hopefully some of these questions will be answered.

In the end though like that Linkin Park song
“it doesn’t really matter”.

Just get better Ollie.

stickguy May 7, 2009 at 12:05 am

If he is sore, then it isn’t a phantom injury.

The question maybe is whether it is severe enough to require the DL, not whether he has an injury.

Guys play hurt al the time, but if Ollie is having performance issues, it makes sense to put him on the DL to treat the problem, even though he could theoretically pitch with it.

zen May 7, 2009 at 12:10 am

Nice win tonight.

Good idea to give Niese a start against the Pirates line-up in Citi Field (dimensions)

Anthony-n-VA May 7, 2009 at 12:17 am

he is pitching well, just been unlucky and bad defense behind him.

thekid024 May 7, 2009 at 12:51 am

Not sure why the farce about moving him to the bullpen. They should have done this to begin with. His velocity is down so I would think there probably is something wrong, a move to the bullpen wasn’t going to help that.

Caligula May 7, 2009 at 12:55 am

I think Ollie’s pitching mechanics are pretty rough on him. This isn’t a surprise to me. Get used to this. I wish it wasn’t this way.

Johan Santana, Tim Lincecum both have the best mechanics in baseball..

Jake Peavy can be problematic like ollie..

But at least he isn’t Kerry Wood or Chris Carpenter. They’re days are numbered in baseball.

Believe it or not, Oliver Perez’s cousin down Tennessee has MAJOR potential.

wnymetsfan May 7, 2009 at 8:57 am

Lincecum and best mechanics should not be used together. He has one of the more violent deliveries and is an arm issue waiting to happen.

cousinrk May 7, 2009 at 12:55 am

I don’t see what’s the big deal, they took a few days to think about it and made the right decision. Let it go

The Slider May 7, 2009 at 1:11 am

I don’t think so. I think the “right decision” would have been to send Ollie down to AAA to catch up for the time he blew during the WBC.

To me, it’s either one of two things with Ollie: either he’s really injured in which case there should have been no talk about the bullpen or AAA; or he’s out of shape/his mechanic are f’ed up, in which case he should just agree to go down, work hard and get himself back in shape for the rest of the season.

The Slider May 7, 2009 at 1:07 am

I can’t seem to make sense of this whole thing – and there may be a very good reason for that: the Mets organization/management has no idea what it’s doing. I suspect that this was the big “compromise” that Boras reached with Omar. Boras told Omar that Ollie would refuse to go down the minors, which – initially caused Omar to put him in the BP. But doing that made little sense because (1) Ollie was allegedly injured (if the injury was the cause of his woes, then going to the BP is not the answer; and (2) Ollie would be a disaster coming out of the pen and there was no way Jerry was going to trust him in the later innings in a close game.

Hence, Ollie to the DL. But like I’ve said recently, I blame the Mets for this whole mess by allowing Ollie to play in the WBC un-monitored. The Mets should have made that a condition in their contract with Ollie or simply told him “No, you can’t play. Be hear in February ready to work hard and get ready to earn your contract.”

reillys5 May 7, 2009 at 2:00 am

i think when omar said petella tendinitis he meant “pretentinitis”

deelee May 7, 2009 at 2:58 am

Nelson Figueroa anyone? Oh wait, oops.

ostar May 7, 2009 at 3:25 am

I think you guys are missing the point here. If they sent Oliver to the bullpen and gave Takahashi the spot start, Ollie would know it was just that – a spot start. He could lounge around for 10 days or so, fully knowing he would be thrown back into the rotation, because Takahashi is clearly not the long term answer here. Similarily, if they sent him down the the minors, and gave the spot start to Gee or Figgy, it’d be a one-shot deal. However, since they DL’ed him and gave his starts to Niese, there is now a ton of pressure on Oliver. Niese is their golden child, not a 35 year old spot starter. The rotation spot is there for the taking. It now pushes Oliver to bust his butt, get into shape, put extra time in during practice, and reclaim his spot – or else he may not get it back.

darknova May 7, 2009 at 6:34 am

Agreed. I just hope Ollie actually processes what this means for him and can feel the pressure to push himself to get back to a good spot for the team.

I’m definitely hesitant to call up Niese this early in the season, I’d like to see him get some more seasoning in Buffalo. That being said, I’d love to see him grab that rotation spot and give Ollie a run for his money.

BeltranMVPlease May 7, 2009 at 6:33 am

THANK YOU!

Putting him in the BP was sickening

darknova May 7, 2009 at 6:37 am

Someone joked yesterday that, given the number of pitches Putz-Rod threw on Wednesday, they could use Ollie as a closer for last night. I nearly went into a seizure, it actually broke my brain to hear that comment! :)

He belonged on the DL or extended ST from the start of this debacle.

BeltranMVPlease May 7, 2009 at 7:03 am

Agree 100%. Putting him in the BP gave him the chance to blow games 3-5 times a week, instead of just 1-2

therealsince86 May 7, 2009 at 7:51 am

Why are we making such a big deal about IF there is an ijury or not. I hope to hell there is. If not then it’s not like the Mets were the first or will be the last to make one up.

darknova May 7, 2009 at 8:05 am

I don’t really care what Ollie’s problem is, I just want him away from the team for a while to work on it. If it’s an actual injury: get healthy and focus on coming back strong. If it’s all mental: get your act together OIlie!

The Stache May 7, 2009 at 9:12 am

Because the Mets ALWAYS handle major issues the stupidest way possible. If you want to DL because of knee problems, maybe he shouldn’t be doing running drills, warming up, having no problems landing on a throw, and snagging flyballs in center.

therealsince86 May 7, 2009 at 7:57 am

Something else to think about. The ONLY pitchers that were pitching well at AAA last week were the old men let by Fossum, Elmer and Figgy IN THAT ORDER. Niese was NOT pitching well. Thus the best option is to leave Takawhatever alone and give him the start. Now Niese seems to have turned the corner a little in his last start and gives them someone that they do not have to make a 40 man change for and has options. Thus Ollie goes down. Does not seem that hard to understand.

Dirtysanchez May 7, 2009 at 8:33 am

im sure the decision was based on the fact niese has options and they can send him down as soon as ollie gets off the DL w/o an emotional blog about it ;p

Constnza81V2.0 May 7, 2009 at 8:53 am

I’m sure the 5 strong innings thrown by Redding last night have a lot to do with this. With Perez on the DL and Niese in the rotation, the Mets can send Niese down without incident once Redding gets another tune-up start.

UnLeashTheReyes May 7, 2009 at 9:10 am

Why not just start figgy? The guy has been pretty good. It’s the Pirates..you know figgy will give you a solid start. i can trust tha figgy will give us around 5-6 innings 2-4 runs, and i’ll take that. why risk it with neise and have him get shelled. he’s not exactly on fire.

Tommy2cat May 6, 2009 at 11:59 pm

Tonya Harding & the baby’s father is looking for work, Yo.

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