Comments on: Note: Mike Pelfrey will get you to Ground Out http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JNGordon http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542845 JNGordon Fri, 08 May 2009 20:01:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542845 And Arod was called out for initiating contact with a fielder trying to knock the ball out of his glove going to first. And Arod was called out for initiating contact with a fielder trying to knock the ball out of his glove going to first.

]]> By: Cactus http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542749 Cactus Fri, 08 May 2009 18:58:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542749 doesn't that argument make fernando martinez look even worse? doesn’t that argument make fernando martinez look even worse?

]]> By: Cactus http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542628 Cactus Fri, 08 May 2009 17:36:19 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542628 Please for the love of all things h oly look at Mike Pelfrey's career g/f ratios and stop repeating this flat out fallacy that he is a groundball pitcher. Please for the love of all things h oly look at Mike Pelfrey’s career g/f ratios and stop repeating this flat out fallacy that he is a groundball pitcher.

]]> By: GregB http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542422 GregB Fri, 08 May 2009 15:15:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542422 "but, seriously, who cares" I do and you should too. A pitcher can't survive without the ability to strike out batters. The more balls put in play, the more that will fall for hits. That, plus there are situations where a pitcher really needs to get an out without a ball in play. Big Pelf needs to start missing some bats. “but, seriously, who cares”

I do and you should too. A pitcher can’t survive without the ability to strike out batters. The more balls put in play, the more that will fall for hits. That, plus there are situations where a pitcher really needs to get an out without a ball in play.

Big Pelf needs to start missing some bats.

]]> By: ravi3 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542361 ravi3 Fri, 08 May 2009 14:55:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542361 Notice the use of "Frequently" Notice the use of “Frequently”

]]> By: ravi3 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542357 ravi3 Fri, 08 May 2009 14:54:19 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542357 Pelfrey never had a true "sinker"....His two-seamer just happens to have tremendous sink on it, and thats what he uses. He was saying that the difference between the two-seamer sinking, as opposed to moving sideways is very slight - when throwing the pitch, if his fingers are on the top and bottom of the ball it acts one way, and if they are on the sides, it acts another. He also was saying that though it is slight, it isn't necessarily an easy thing to fix, and throw consistently. He'll find it eventually, and you'll see the bowling ball again. Pelfrey never had a true “sinker”….His two-seamer just happens to have tremendous sink on it, and thats what he uses. He was saying that the difference between the two-seamer sinking, as opposed to moving sideways is very slight – when throwing the pitch, if his fingers are on the top and bottom of the ball it acts one way, and if they are on the sides, it acts another. He also was saying that though it is slight, it isn’t necessarily an easy thing to fix, and throw consistently. He’ll find it eventually, and you’ll see the bowling ball again.

]]> By: The Slider http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542320 The Slider Fri, 08 May 2009 14:35:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542320 "...his off-speed pitches will return"? Ha. You must be kidding Matt. Mike Pelfrey has no off-speed pitches. Well, maybe I should refine that. He has very poor off-speed pitches that he can use occasionally "for show" when trying to keep hitters off-balance. But that's it. Why doesn't Warthen (or, better yet, JJ Putz) try and teach Pelfrey a splitter? “…his off-speed pitches will return”? Ha. You must be kidding Matt. Mike Pelfrey has no off-speed pitches. Well, maybe I should refine that. He has very poor off-speed pitches that he can use occasionally “for show” when trying to keep hitters off-balance. But that’s it.

Why doesn’t Warthen (or, better yet, JJ Putz) try and teach Pelfrey a splitter?

]]> By: fhc63 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542316 fhc63 Fri, 08 May 2009 14:35:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542316 1in86 your posts have made more sense then I have ever seen on here. I read all the posts daily but rarely respond as most are just negative emmotional reactions that are not thought out. It foolish to even consider getting rid of player that has put up the numbers they have, are under your control at low cost dollars for several more years, that are still 2-3 years from reaching thier baseball prime - 28-32 years old, that are homegrown fan favorites and have done nothing but represent the franchise in a positive way. Top it off they have done nothing win since the arrived. No team goes 162 - 0 with 162 shutouts, never makes an error and whose starting position players all hit .350 with power. Most Met fans are to demanding, to unrealistic, and have way to much short term memorey without any vision of the future. It was great to read a sensible, well thought out post. Hope its not the last I see on here. 1in86 your posts have made more sense then I have ever seen on here. I read all the posts daily but rarely respond as most are just negative emmotional reactions that are not thought out. It foolish to even consider getting rid of player that has put up the numbers they have, are under your control at low cost dollars for several more years, that are still 2-3 years from reaching thier baseball prime – 28-32 years old, that are homegrown fan favorites and have done nothing but represent the franchise in a positive way. Top it off they have done nothing win since the arrived. No team goes 162 – 0 with 162 shutouts, never makes an error and whose starting position players all hit .350 with power. Most Met fans are to demanding, to unrealistic, and have way to much short term memorey without any vision of the future. It was great to read a sensible, well thought out post. Hope its not the last I see on here.

]]> By: udontmesswiththejohan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542269 udontmesswiththejohan Fri, 08 May 2009 14:14:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542269 Gotcha. I think if there is a criticism to be made, then it has more to do with a generational thing than an individual thing. I mean I bet most guys his age, who have had his success, can't bunt a lick. Geez most pitchers acn't even bunt and that is the only thing they should be doing. Gotcha. I think if there is a criticism to be made, then it has more to do with a generational thing than an individual thing. I mean I bet most guys his age, who have had his success, can’t bunt a lick. Geez most pitchers acn’t even bunt and that is the only thing they should be doing.

]]> By: jamie_ http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542262 jamie_ Fri, 08 May 2009 14:11:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/05/08/note-mike-pelfrey-will-get-you-to-ground-out/#comment-542262 and 200 hits a year and great defense? It's a hell of a package. He's got a very real shot of reaching 3,000 hits in his career (always assuming health) and 200 hits a year and great defense? It’s a hell of a package. He’s got a very real shot of reaching 3,000 hits in his career (always assuming health)

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