Update, 4:58 pm:
In a post to Twitter, SI.com’s Jon Heyman says Delgado is feeling better.
Also, Heyman says the soonest the Mets would promote Fernando Martinez is June.
Original Post:
Mets GM Omar Minaya talked with reporters on a conference call earlier today and said an MRI revealed J.J. Putz has inflammation in the back of his elbow.
…from what i can gather, putz made a visit to the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan earlier today, but will meet the team in San Francisco later today…
On his blog for the New York Post, Bart Hubbuch reports Putz will be out for at least the first two games of this series, though he does not need surgery.
…earlier today i wrote, ‘I’m starting to get a feeling there could be something wrong with Putz,’ but i just assumed it was a dead-arm phase… damn…
According to Minaya, it is a bone spur that Putz has become accustom to playing with, and this will be no different.
Minaya also said the team will wait until Saturday or Sunday to decide whether Carlos Delgado will be put on the disabled list, as the team waits to see how he adjusts to treatment and medication for a bone spur and impingement in his hip.
…so, the Mets are playing one down in the bullpen and one down on the bench… i mean, why not repeatedly play with one arm tired behind your back… ugh… always with the roster complications, these Mets…
By the way, since first injuring his hip 15 days ago, Delgado has only started in seven games, while batting .426.
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Put Delgado on the DL and end this madness.
I guess the Mets are going to wait 2 weeks until they make a decision on Delgado. Ridiculous. He should have been DL’d a week ago. Now Putz and Del are out and we are playing 23 against 25 on a tough road trip. DL both of these guys and lets get some replacements up.
by sat or sunday we could have a replacement for delgado already….why prolong this if he is not goign to even play?
Well i guess that would explain putz performance of late…at least parnell has done well enough that he can be cautiously trusted with the 8th….
So we basically have 23 players for the series, until they realize one should go on the DL.
when is redding eligable to come back?(somehow i think sat or sunday lol j/k)
What are you guys talking about? Delgado is going to pinch hit tonight and delay the 15 day for another 2 weeks.
Boy I never would want to visit the Met doctors
I swear, Minaya must have glossed over the section of “roster management” in his “How to be a GM” handbook. He really is a total buffoon when it comes to this.
I guarantee you there will be a situation where delgado will pinch hit on thsi west coast trip and the clock will start all over again.
Putz got a bone spur because he doesn’t like NY.
Delgado is faking a hip injury because he’s not allowed to be the “on field” leader.
sarcasm
“O you have 12 gunshot wounds. Alright stay home for the next couple of days and w’ll see you in 3 days.” “O still losing blood? okay, take the next 2 days off.”
Atleast there’s an explanation on why Putz isn’t striking anyone out and is walking a lot of guys.
Rest him, get him better, Parnell can probably handle the 8th for now
this is a real drag. I should be feeling good about the last 12 games, instead I’m deflated by yesterday’s game, putz today, the delgado nondecision, roster shenannigans, the phillies tying the game…
doctor, this patient needs a 7-3 road trip, stat
Playing two down? Hey, at least Jerry doesn’t overmanage and burn through pinch hitters and pitchers early in games.
Heyman says on his Twitter, June is the earliest F-Mart will be up
The Mets need to call up people with options, so they can quickly be sent back down. That rules out Figgy. Does anyone know if Pagan has options?
Also, can someone please check Shawn Green for a convenient excuse for a trip to the DL?
Let’s keep things in perspective – they’re not really 1 man down in the pen because they called up Figgy, quite possibly because they knew they might need an extra arm in the pen (even without Putz’s injury, they played extra innings yesterday and used, I think, everyone in the pen except Perez, who at this point isn’t getting in a game unless we’re down by 10 runs).
Re Delgado, I understand not wanting to shelve Delgado for 2 weeks unless they know they have to. As long as they don’t do something really dumb like pinch-hitting him, the DL stint can be retroactive. Not having the bench flexibility isn’t the biggest deal; keep in mind that out of the 8 non-pitcher positions on the diamond, 3 guys simply don’t get replaced (Beltran, Wright, and Reyes), and one guy shouldn’t, at least while he’s hitting like this (Tatis). We’re talking about the absence of one first baseman/outfielder/pinch hitter. Not huge, especially when you consider that the replacement will come from the mind-boggling awful Buffalo roster. I don’t think we’re going to lose any games because of the lack of Mike Lamb or Ramon Martinez.
hey, but the dodgers win! a ray of sunshine…
@ dsb
He has not played in several days….what makes you think they are not going to have too….
Fish and Phils both lose today!
How ’bout that Phillies bullpen! Although Broxton didn’t exactly have a successful day either. Good to see other teams’ bullpens blowup!
If JJ is not out long and does not need surgery, this could be GOOD news.
It could mean the bone spur and way too much work from the WBC to the amount he is pitching now are the reasons for the decline in velocity. This could mean he will be back to throwing 97 mph blazers by later in the summer…..
Why can’t Omar manage a roster. He must love making life difficult for his managers.
well this would be a nice day to capitolize
Mil beat FL 5-3
LA beat Phi 5-3
@ Asod
Manuel has got to do a ozzi and call omar out lol
Was Putz given a physical before the trade?
LOL BROCK. always the optimist
don’t stop +1
In the doctor’s office of public opinion, he got a sparkling bill of health . . . but you’ve got to wonder — Mike Carp? (Whom I still want to play in Japan for the Carp. . . )
“Nobody f*cks with Chest and Brock.” Love the optimism , buddy.
not the best news coming off back-to-back extra inning games, 1 of which our starter didn’t make it out of the 5th inning.
Putz has been getting worked hard lately. SO a few days off was a wise idea anyway. If some antiinfamitories (or a cortisone shot) and a couple of days reast can get him back to normal, then keep him on the roster.
Delgado, I just don’t see it. It has been what, 5/6 days already? So they are willing to wait another 3 days, meaning at most they save a week?
(20) agreed. But, Im sure that wont make ESPN’s opening highlights. This morning I nearly threw my cherrios at the TV when I heard “The Mets have a meltdown.” Are you serious? They had a horrible outting from a callup and battled back into the 12th. Far from a “major meltdown”.
@15 Is F-Mart a Boras client? If not, Heyman has no idea what he is talking about.
Dave Cameron wrote on 4/29:
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/putz-looks-hurts
He could tell from the stats and the TV screen that Putz was hurt, so either the Mets let him play hurt (entirely possible) or they missed it….
what are the words that get you stuck in comment moderation? aside from things like a-ssignment, or a-ssume
Well, at least the Philly Phucs lost today… that’s a good news
Guys this is off topic. Matt and co. i hope you can answer this….Why does it feel like everytime we fly to the west coast we don’t get that first day off to adjust. I know we played a day game but I still think an off day is warranted when flying for 4 – 5 hours and having a 3 hr swing.
Anyone else agree? I also don’t know if the east coast teams had to deal w/ this either. It just seems very unfair to the east coast teams.
I’m getting ready top drive up to SF!! My only live baseball of the year.
Well, for brighter news ….
both the Philies and Marlins already lost today.
stache, makes sense to not bring F-Mart up b4 June because they’ll get an extra year from him in the bigs. Most ML ready players get the call up in June unless they’re really needed b4 hand.
I’m still waiting for Matt Wieters on my fantasy team. Good thing Molina is raking off the waiver wire.
They should DL Putz and Delgado and hope they go 500 or better on this trip…..
#37. I just wish they can play at 4PM West Coast time, so I don’t have to stay up till 1AM to watching the game
LOL! As my formative Met years were the late 70s and early 80s, I generally see things as not being that bad!
So thanks there Case Street and Chest Rockwell!
well, cpuld be cuz they are 3 hours behind and played a day game yesterday
call up WILLYYYYY MOOOOOOOO PENA, put Murphy at first, and call up Kunz while DLing delgado and putz… i know eddie hurt himself but he should be fine very soon. as for putz… even if he is NOT hurt give the guy 2 weeks to rest he has been so overworked i would rather see himn take 2 weeks off and be healthy then to see him pitch hurt. i am a huge willlllyyyyyyy mooooo fan and would love to see him up.
All you people on here who cry regularly because “we don’t score for poor Johan” and “poor Johan must hate that he was traded here,” “Johan deserved a win tonight.” etc. etc Take a look around the league today!!! Quite a few terrific preformances that came up with a ND:
Billingsley
Hamels
Verlander
King Felix
Despite Camel Hole’s 7IP 1ER 9K effort, Lidge gave up a run in the 9th and Durbin gave up 2 runs in the 10th.
Aside from Ibanez, all the Philly Phuc hitters are hitting under .300. So much for their ‘gritty’ offense! Rollins is batting .200 and Vicki batting .259.
Please DO NOT rush Delgado back. Let him heal as much as possible. There is plenty of season left. I’d rather have his bat when we need it down the stretch.
@downndirty
I glad to see Lidge has come down to earth.
King Johan
Listen, the only way to get these guys back to where they’re supposed to be is with rest. Delgado’s not getting surgery. He’s going to have deal with the pain. From time to time though, he’s going to need more days off to keep him healthy. Luckily, the Mets have a right-handed guy who’s hitting the ball great who can field the position probably slightly better than Delgado.
#46, Check out the Run Support category.
As for JJ, I’m a little more worried. I knew there had to be something wrong, but this injury has definitely been caused or become worse due to his workload. Even if he were with the team the first two games, he has no business being in those two games. Right now, the Mets have two weak relievers, Ken Takahashi and Sean Green. Hopefully, when we’re going down the stretch, that’s Tim Redding and Billy Wagner.
jromer, that’s an interesting idea but w/ Tatis playing full time and the plethora of OFers, I think they’ll call up a INFer like R. Martinez.
#47 – All the grit of their 9th inning comeback went for naught because of their bullpen. Where have I heard thae before?
mets are a game and a half up in the division and it’s still panic time. can management ever get their act together and give us a deep bench?
mets lost 2 out of 3 games to the braves. had the mets gotten derek lowe they could have very possibly swept.
lil pelf – While I agree that’s in the past now. Can’t change it.
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts…
The Mets won the one game vs. Atlanta on a blown call at third. Were it not for that, THEY would have been swept.
LilPelf:
Erm, what?
fxcarden – True but all three games swung on 1 or 2 plays. Mets coulda swept too.
The only thing worse than Willy Mo Pena’s hitting (.253 .307 .447 ) is his fielding (-.9.7 UZR/150 and -19.0 UZR/150 in RF)
don’t remind me lil Pelf. I wanted anyone but Ollie back. I was even campainging for Randy Wolf over Ollie. Hopefully somehow Ollie gets his act together, but I think we got hosed.
Case, I was just going for a quip against heyman. I agree on June also to avoid super two status.
PAPDOG67 – Should be a lemon law for FAs.
blains2000 – You aint kidding. I had a bad feeling Ollie was just looking to get paid. He doesn’t seem to care about anything, even baseball…….again, I hope I’m wrong.
The Stache – You’re are correct, it’s why guys like Price and Weiters are not up yet. They both will be June 1st or soon there after.
lil pelf says:
“mets lost 2 out of 3 games to the braves. had the mets gotten derek lowe they could have very possibly swept.”
Ah, right on target as always! I am sure Lowe would have pitched the first AND third games in the series for us, and probably would have thrown a long bullpen session during game 2….
This is why I haven’t liked the amount of appearances Putz has had so far this season. I just didn’t think it was wise to pitch a guy, coming off an injury-riddled season, double digit appearances right off the bat in April. I also didn’t think it was wise on the part of Putz to participate in the WBC. There’s no way this guy goes the whole year w/out a trip to the DL.
How could Matt possibly think this is a good format for the message board?
Darth, outstanding question, and I think about 99% of us are wondering the very same thing.
He obviously has his reasons, but damn, it would be nice to know what they may be….
Matt conversation is the whole reason this site is successful.. Why would you take that away from us.. Having any sort of detailed conversation is now almost impossible. This sux
Format be damned,
On a brighter note, both the Phillies and Marlins lost.
Quick Question, In baseball – reference dot com, how does Johan have 85% QS percentage?
Hey Brock;
I respect your point of view.
Do you really think Perez was a better signing than Lowe?
I mean, step back and look at these 2 guys.
In your heart of hearts, maybe we could have saved on some of the “only” 2 M and 3 M signings and gone for the proven commidity?
I’m asking; no need to get all defensive and hostile; please just answer the question.
This is a dictatorship!
steady,
there’s no guarantee that Lowe would’ve agreed to the same deal w/ the Mets. We might have had to go higher.
Plus, Lowe was the Mets #1 choice but price and years got too high.
It’s not like he’s a spring chicken. I don’t think you can blame them, especially w/ the talent that will be hitting the FA market in the next few years.
Common Sense Logic: Braves beat Mets with Lowe in game 1, not so if they don’t have him possibly. In game 3, Mets lose to garbage Braves starter because they start Neise. If Lowe starts instead, we easily win game. A possible sweep if we shelled out the extra cash that the owners make from Shake Shack alone over the course of a game.
lil pelf:
What if whomever would have pitched in Lowe’s spot pitched well that day?
Mathew,
Do something about this format………… OK Matt you leave me no further recourse but to appeal to the powers that be.
Mrs. Cerrone,
Will you please tell your husband to go back to the original reply format.
Thank you.
wanny2: matched up evenly with johan? doubt it
lil pelf, Johan pitched against Lowe.
The Best Pitcher in Baseball
Hasn’t everyone pitched well against Johan?
just a thought:
the perez / lowe comparison has to be made in at least two more years.
today obviously, lowe was a better deal but lets give omar the benefit of the doudt for at least a year.
my bet is that perez comes back as good ollie and we “fans” find another link to gripe about.
Because I wasn’t aware Johan was undefeated this season.
steady—first off, have I ever been hostile to you? And my above comment was a joke regarding the idea that with Lowe, we win 3 instead of 1 in the Brave series this week.
At the time, I thought that Lowe was a really good pitcher who would be very good for the Mets, but the contract he got was, in my opinion, too high for a pitcher his age. At the time, with what Ollie has shown himself capable of, and being a 27 year old lefty who has real good stuff, I thought that his signing was fine. I was for it; I was not nearly as happy as when we got KRod or JJ, but I wanted Ollie back. I thought that considering his youth, accomplishments and potential, and the difference in the contracts, and what was available other than Lowe at the time, that Ollie was an OK signing, even if we did overpay somewhat.
$24 million is a lot of money, and I think that is the gross difference in the contracts. We would all love the Mets to spend like the Yanks, but considering the economy and the Madoff thing, $24 mil is a lot to the Wilpons right now. Saving a couple of $2 mil signings, in addition to potentially dramatically weakening the bench, doesn’t come close to making up that $24 mil, no matter how many times people say we could have had Lowe if we didn’t sign Cora and Dessens, etc. That’s just not reality.
Today, yes, it is easy to slam the signing, as we have no idea if we will ever see the 2007 Ollie again. But still, at the time I understood and supported it.
Was it a “better” signing? I don’t think I ever said that, but again, all things considered, age, dollars, etc, I supported the move.
does anyone else feels that this road trip can make or break this season
“A possible sweep if we shelled out the extra cash that the owners make from Shake Shack alone over the course of a game.”
I am very sure the Wilpons make MORE than 24 million dollars every game from the Shake Shack.
Damn, if we had two Shake Shacks, we could have had MANNYMANNYMANNY
too!
I don’t want Delgado to feel better. I want him to feel great. So he can compete w/ Beltran for the MVP. Battle of the Carlos’!
“the perez / lowe comparison has to be made in at least two more years.”
Now THAT is sensible, reasonable, and fair.
Screw you guys, I’m going home!
its too early for any series to be make or break.
as long as we win the ones that we have to win (when we’re up after 7 and when we have risp and the game on the line)
It’s OK! We can put Ollie in the pen to help out!
Hah hahahahahaha
This team is so inconsistant, they’re inconsistantly inconsistant.
Today’s Mets Blog features Balls and a Putz.
To whomever said that Shake Shack is making $24 million per game, you obviously have absolutely no knowledge of the restaurant business what so ever.
I’d be highly surprised if they even made a $24 million profit from the single shake shack over the whole season.
I don’t think we have to wait two years to evaluate the Lowe v. Perez debate. The Mets have an aopportunity to win this year and they had to sign a guy that would help them do that. It is a now team. If they signed Lowe and he helped them win a world series this year, no one would give a crap what Lowe did afterward.
I think it is fair to compare the two at the end of the season. And right now, Ollie has a lot of catching up to.
Blogs with balls, my arse. This blog is a shill for SNY and the commentary waffles daily in accordance with the emotions of the fans in order to increase its page views.
For once, I’d like to see one of the commentaries on this site say something unpopular to the thousands of ledge dwellers who show up after a loss to criticize minutiae.
ensiferum–
Hmm, you don’t think so? Even if their profit margin is just a restaurant standard 5%, they would just have to sell about $480,000,000 worth of shakes and burgers per game…..that would mean that each fan would only have to spend about $12,000 per game.
I think that is achievable, don’t you?
That is what a Happy Meal costs at the Citi, no?
Yes Wanny, but a Gritty Meal is even more….
Well then maybe Wright can go to the shack before every at-bat with a runner in scoring position if that’s true.
I was afraid there would be grit (and gristle) in the food. That’s why in my two visits to the park I haven’t even left my seat (and because the Promenade section is so damn uncomfortable I am not even able to straighten myself out to get up).
In fairness, the second time I went I had field level seats which had almost as much room as first class airplane seats.
Wanny, are you reading everything on here? There is a lot of positive energy on here, since Matt has always, even before his association with SNY been that way. BUT, he does spell out quite often, as does other members of his staff, flaws in the Mets. If you look just today, you see how he has pointed out mental and physical errors and quite questionable managerial decisions.
cver – I’m not suggesting that the site doesn’t point out the negative. I’m suggesting that the site writes only what is the popular opinion among the fans.
for example, the posts about david wright’s “clutchness” after a bad game, which matt knows riles the fans up. perhaps mets fans would benefit from honest, factual assessment rather than a post derived solely to rile up page views.
Yeah, I do think that Matt does try to do what Wanny suggests….I mean, I love this site, and respect Matt greatly, but the bottom line is that when you have “Presented by Verizon” or “Presented by Geico” at the top of your site, you need to focus on traffic, and keeping it high and steady…..
I mean this as a question, not as criticism.
If Matt is constantly updating this site, and his job is this blog, how come he never participates in the chat?
Just asking, don’t get your panties in a bunch.
Matt does sometimes participate in the comments, but not at all regularly, and usually only to defend himself from criticism…..he does not come on here and debate and discuss with us, not in the time I have been here…..
I called Putz to the DL during yesterdays game….
I now wish I was wrong
He hasn’t seemed right for the last 2 weeks. In th first 10 games he was lights out. After that his velocity was down and his pitches were flat.
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