Comments on: Buzz: Matt Holliday and Carlos Lee http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/ Wed, 17 Mar 2010 06:07:18 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565360 Patrick Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:09:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565360 no moving Luis right now, he is the closest thing the Mets have to a leadoff hitter no moving Luis right now, he is the closest thing the Mets have to a leadoff hitter

]]> By: keithsmoustache http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565291 keithsmoustache Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:29:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565291 Holliday would be a .240 hitter in Citi Field. He can barely hit in Oakland. I really hope someone in Queens looks at his "splits" page on baseball reference before pulling the trigger on a deal. Holliday would be a .240 hitter in Citi Field. He can barely hit in Oakland. I really hope someone in Queens looks at his “splits” page on baseball reference before pulling the trigger on a deal.

]]> By: MainStMets23 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565103 MainStMets23 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:30:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565103 i dont see any scenario in which the metsies acquire holliday in a trade...perhaps they sign him as a FA in Dec(further diminishing their draft picks) but even that would be a stretch based on how he has played outside of coors id jump at the chance to get carlos lee, he is servicable in the OF and his bat more than makes up for any lack of defense he might not have....lets call him Manny Ramirez Light( the uber producing LF, that is not linked to PEDs). He hits a ton and always seems to come up big when they need him, if you play him in left, beltran in center and leave f mart up to play right our outfield defense would be just fine lee also replaces the booming bat this team is missing w the injury to delgado i dont see any scenario in which the metsies acquire holliday in a trade…perhaps they sign him as a FA in Dec(further diminishing their draft picks) but even that would be a stretch based on how he has played outside of coors

id jump at the chance to get carlos lee, he is servicable in the OF and his bat more than makes up for any lack of defense he might not have….lets call him Manny Ramirez Light( the uber producing LF, that is not linked to PEDs). He hits a ton and always seems to come up big when they need him, if you play him in left, beltran in center and leave f mart up to play right our outfield defense would be just fine

lee also replaces the booming bat this team is missing w the injury to delgado

]]> By: KL15 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565089 KL15 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:01:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565089 Aquiring Carlos Lee is looking real good right now to me. Not only for what he may be able to help this season, but down the road. I say this for two reasons. Number one, he's not a free agent at the end of the season so he may be able to help for a few years to come. Number two, I think the Mets should always make an effort to get younger. I've stated a few times, with no amphetamines and no steroids baseball is a young mans game. Aquiring Carlos Lee is looking real good right now to me. Not only for what he may be able to help this season, but down the road. I say this for two reasons. Number one, he’s not a free agent at the end of the season so he may be able to help for a few years to come. Number two, I think the Mets should always make an effort to get younger. I’ve stated a few times, with no amphetamines and no steroids baseball is a young mans game.

]]> By: markzila http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565042 markzila Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:23:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565042 i like to add lee, personally. delgado comes off the books this year, so does wagner. thats his $$$ right there. we could then move murphy to 1B in the offseason and do whatever with the other corner OF spot with what we've got. and if we could move castillo, i wouldnt be against it either. i like to add lee, personally.

delgado comes off the books this year, so does wagner. thats his $$$ right there.

we could then move murphy to 1B in the offseason and do whatever with the other corner OF spot with what we’ve got.

and if we could move castillo, i wouldnt be against it either.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565041 Patrick Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:23:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565041 mixing metaphors, Doc is Halladay, the other is Matt mixing metaphors, Doc is Halladay, the other is Matt

]]> By: Patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565039 Patrick Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:21:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565039 I think it is high time everyone take a deep breath on a 17 year old who has taken a big leap back to earth this year. I think it is high time everyone take a deep breath on a 17 year old who has taken a big leap back to earth this year.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565036 Patrick Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:18:31 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565036 Basing it on body size is iffy at best, the whole notion that small frames can't handle big league innings is entirely bogus and contrived. Roy Oswalt is listed at 6'0", he wishes he was really that tall. David Cone was listed at 6'1", I stood next to him in 1987 I was in my early teens and just topping 6'2", I was easily nearing half a foot taller than David Cone. Ron Guidry, Tim Hudson, Pedro Martinez, Johan Santana, it can go on an on, these guys are not exceptions to some rule they are just as likely to be as good as someone 6'2" or 6'4" etal. Pitchers who can throw strikes, minimize their pitchers and change speeds deceptively and effectively can pitch innings. Those who cannot, they end up getting hit out of the league or hurt. Basing it on body size is iffy at best, the whole notion that small frames can’t handle big league innings is entirely bogus and contrived.

Roy Oswalt is listed at 6′0″, he wishes he was really that tall. David Cone was listed at 6′1″, I stood next to him in 1987 I was in my early teens and just topping 6′2″, I was easily nearing half a foot taller than David Cone. Ron Guidry, Tim Hudson, Pedro Martinez, Johan Santana, it can go on an on, these guys are not exceptions to some rule they are just as likely to be as good as someone 6′2″ or 6′4″ etal.

Pitchers who can throw strikes, minimize their pitchers and change speeds deceptively and effectively can pitch innings. Those who cannot, they end up getting hit out of the league or hurt.

]]> By: slambam13 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565035 slambam13 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:11:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565035 Lee is verrrrry enticing. He's a hitting machine, and very similar to Gary sheffield but without all the health issues and age. Especially if he wont garner as many prospects, hopefully the mets will jump on the opportunity. Lee is verrrrry enticing. He’s a hitting machine, and very similar to Gary sheffield but without all the health issues and age. Especially if he wont garner as many prospects, hopefully the mets will jump on the opportunity.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565033 Patrick Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:08:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/04/buzz-matt-holliday-and-carlos-lee/#comment-565033 He moves FAR better than you know, there is nothing about him that signals DH, and Sheffield did not begin DHing until he went to Detroit at age 37. You are over dramatizing a possibility beause at the moment a lot of what the Mets touch seems to turn to poop, but a lot of those touches were risky from the get go. Alou, Pedro, Wagner, these were guys who already has injury histories, dead arms , dl stints and in Wagners case early career surgery. He moves FAR better than you know, there is nothing about him that signals DH, and Sheffield did not begin DHing until he went to Detroit at age 37.

You are over dramatizing a possibility beause at the moment a lot of what the Mets touch seems to turn to poop, but a lot of those touches were risky from the get go. Alou, Pedro, Wagner, these were guys who already has injury histories, dead arms , dl stints and in Wagners case early career surgery.

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