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Yesterday, in a win against the Nationals, Livan Hernandez pitched seven scoreless innings, while striking out four batters.
“He’s been huge,” Manuel said of Hernandez, following yesterday’s game. “Obviously, we need good pitching, and that was outstanding pitching today.”
Hernandez is 5–1 with a 3.88 ERA in 11 starts this season, during which the Mets are 7–4.
He has thrown six ‘quality starts,’ i.e., at least six innings pitched while allowing three runs or less.
…three things, 1) it looks like he pitches without a game plan, and simply adjusts to each hitter as the hitter adjusts to him, sometimes in the middle of the at bat, 2) he has no issue working inside the strike zone, it’s like he’s fearless, or just really confident in what he’s doing, and 3) he is striking out batters at essentially double the rate he had been over the last few years, and i think this is a result of making half of his starts against the young, free-swinging Marlins, Pirates and Nationals…
Hernandez told reporters he was feeling sick before the game, and all through the previous night, when he got very little sleep, adding, “But, I don’t care… I like to pitch no matter what.”
…i wonder if he, too, ate a funky batch of fried food and buffalo wings…
But wait, this isn’t to Omar’s credit, right? I mean, he only gets blamed for the bad moves. Perez? Omar’s fault. Delgado? Omar’s fault. The economy? Omar’s fault. Global warming? Omar’s fault.
Livan Hernandez? Pure luck.
LOL…please give credit where credit is due, Mets fans
Livan is the perfect # 4 or 5 pitcher. He just goes out and tosses 6+ inninge per start, better than anyone on the team not named Santana.
That being said, Pelfrey & Maine are not pitching like the 2-3 starters they are supposed to be. Moving one of them and a prospect for an upgrade would make a lot of sense, because Livan has earned his spot in the rotation and replacing him would not give us value in return.
My sense is that selling Pelfry or Maine now is selling low. More Maine than Pelf. Yet the logic of turning a young controllable mostly good results pitcher into a better pitcher at more cost but with more consistency is likely a good option.
Halladay is one excellent option but he is likely not being floated. Peavy is another but he will likely not come to a big city like NY. I think Oswalt is past his best and I would not trade Pelfrey straight up for him considering what the next 3 years of Oswalt are likely to be and what the next 3 years of Oswalt are likely to be.
Im for adjusting the rotation with deals but dont see this as the major need of the team right now.
They need a legitimate bat to put somewhere.
Time to trade Murphy, Church and Neise for Carlos Lee and let the outfield be Beltran, Fmart and Lee for this year
From April 25 through June 4 (7 GS), Pelfrey WAS a #2 starter: 3-1, 2.96 ERA, Mets 6-1 in those starts
From April 27 to May 31 (7 GS), Maine was just even better than Pelfrey: 5-1, 2.36 ERA, Mets 5-1 in those starts
Each guy had one bad outing, and all of a sudden they are horrible? Even worse, you want to trade them?
This site is full of horrible wannabe GMs…
Pelfrey and Maine had both been pitching very good for the better part of a month plus time, they each terrible outings this week and we are going to bury them? Come on, talk about a knee jerk reaction.
Hernandez has been very good, healthy and down weight. He has also pitched well against the Braves in Atlanta and against the Dodgers in LA.
I think you are half right. I think a 2 or 3 starter on a playoff caliber team should be able to go 7 innings. Pelfrey has done it 4 times, Livan 3, Santana 6, Maine 0. Maine is not a 2
I can’t get too worried about who lasts how long in the playoffs yet. Having seen Maine already pitch in October he is the least of my worries right now, other than being healthy.
If the Mets could get a big time starter to pair with Santana yes I would do it, but the chances are slim that a team is going to give that up. And really for it to make a difference for the Mets we are talking about getting a 1 to co-ace with Santana ala the Diamondbacks with Schilling and Johnson. Santana and generic decent 7 inning guy is not going to make the Mets a big contender. Santana and (Peavy, Oswalt, Lee, etal maybe)
It’s funny how Livan Hernandez, who is a little bit overweight, is always in perfect health and never goes on the DL and can throw 140 pitches with ease. Yet his brother, who was always in top physical muscular condition, couldn’t stay on the field to save his life.
It might just be me… but doesn’t it feel like Livan only pitches well against teams like the Nats, Fish, Bucs, and Giants?
Against real competition like the Phils I am afraid he will get shelled.
Last time I checked, a win against the Nats or Bucs counts the same as a win against the Phils.
Not only that, but those are the kind of teams that have killed the Mets the past few years. Man it would have been nice if he had pitched in the last Pirate series.