Comments on: Listen: Jerry Manuel on WFAN

By: Mets5rocks

Mets5rocks — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:50:40 +0000

Both of those guys have been bounced in at out of that lineup so much there heads have got to be spinning! Let them get consistent several games in a row at bats and then see where they are offensively.They can’t possibly get into a rythum and get their timing if they only play every three days. Neither F-mart or Murphy are hurting the team defensively, especially Murphy. As long as the team is keeping pace there is no reason not to let them play, not to mention as stated above that there is no one else in the minors that is even close to where F-mart and Murphy are. If there was someone who was better in the minors they would be playing with the big club. With that said as long as the team is holding their own there is no sense in getting a rental player that will cost scores of prospects only to be lost to free agency.

By: BullpenHelp

BullpenHelp — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:14:10 +0000

Whoa!

Leave that logic at home!

It doesn’t matter how right you are… as long as this team stays above .500, we’ll close our eyes and pretend nothing is wrong.

You’re right, this team is winning in spite of significantly below average production from Murphy and Martinez, in two positions that generally provide lots of offense. The winning isn’t likely to last if that doesn’t change.

By: ravi3

ravi3 — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:12:53 +0000

Think about it- a player can learn far more in the majors than the minors. If F-Mart and Murph can get consistent playing time, with the team winning, then it’s the ideal situation. Obviously if they appear to be overmatched and don’t show signs of adjustment/improvement, then it’s a different story. I don’t think the time has come for them to go down just yet. Another thing to consider- who else in the Met system can you reasonably expect to produce? Personally I’ve got nothng aside from Wily Mo Peña, and that is a bit of a stretch.

By: WSeda22

WSeda22 — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:42:04 +0000

Martinez is unproductive because he is still not ready for The Show. While one can also make an argument that Murphy is not ready as well, he has shown more than Martinez has. Murphy came onto the scene last year and did really well, worked hard this year and did really well out of the gate. He fell into a slump and automatically he gets reassigned to bench duty. I dislike Manuel’s handling of him, especially after stating he was our starter in ST. Manuel should let Murphy play everyday for a month, and if the kid cannot get his act together then he should be sent down to work on his stuff. Martinez on the other hand, needs a lot of work and I don’t see much value in keeping him once interleague games are over.

By: thedude

thedude — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:36:51 +0000

I’m confused.

So if the team is winning and in contention, keep two completely unproductive players in the lineup rather than letting them work things out in AAA?

But if the team starts losing, falls out of the race and can afford to let players develop at the major league level, we’ll send them down?

The team is winning in spite of Martinez/Murphy, not because of them. So why not let them work on things/develop without the pressure of being in big leagues?

By: WSeda22

WSeda22 — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:36:02 +0000

How can anyone expect Murphy (who is a rookie after all) to “provide the level of production” the team needs if Jerry, as the manager, is not playing him consistently? The kid goes into a slump and instead of being able to work out of it, Jerry benches him. God forbid the kid goes 3-for-5 tonight with 5 RBI’s or he’ll have to get benched to cool off. If anyone wants to get better at something, they need to practice at it. Somehow that logic doesn’t apply to Murphy according to Jerry’s decisions. Newsflash Jerry: Your veteran Tatis is having a hard time being consistent as well. Why is he playing more than Murphy however?