The Yankees (42-32) and Mets (37-36) close out the Subway Series tonight at Citi Field.
Ryan Church was a late scratch from the lineup due to illness.
Instead, it will be Fernando Tatis in right field in the fifth spot in the lineup.
Daniel Murphy will lead off tonight, followed by Alex Cora, David Wright, Gary Sheffield in left field, Tatis, Fernando Martinez, Brian Schneider behind the plate, and Luis Castillo.
Livan Hernandez (5-2, 4.05 ERA) will start tonight for the Mets. Although the Mets have lost four of his past five starts, Hernandez has allowed just four earned runs in the last two of those outings. In his last ten outings, he is 4-1 with a 3.17 ERA, averaging over 6 innings in each of those outings.
Chien-Ming Wang (0-6, 11.20 ERA) will start tonight for the Yankees. Wang is making just his eighth start of the year in 11 appearances, and has not lasted more than five innings in any of his starts. He has allowed 51 hits and 39 earned runs in 31 1/3 innings this season.
Update, 6:35 pm:
Oliver Perez pitched five innings and allowed no runs on two hits, and struck out six for the Brooklyn Cyclones today.
He walked just one batter.
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Looks like the good Ollie showed up for this game,…………..next game he’ll go 5 innings, walk six and K the pitcher! And could someone please tell Jerry that Tatis has no business in the 5 hole! UGH…another game another lineup.
well church was in the 5 slot…and i thought about it too after church got scratched because he was nauseous..i think i spelled that right…who else can u bat 5th tho? maybe murphy but hes leading off…so it was either tatis or fmart and fmart is struggling worse then tatis is
How about Evans?Or even (God help me) Schneider who has actually shown atleast some power, somebody, anybody except for Fernando GBDP Tatis! UGH!
i smell another loss with that lineup
How the **** is Tatis starting over Evans?
and with a ground ball pitcher on the mound!
well tatis is in RF so a ground ball pitcher wouldnt effect him much so im not too annoyed…but yea…evans should play over tatis…
like he even needs a ground ball pitcher to hit into a DP?
oh wow i thought he ment defensivley…yea i didnt think of that…im expecting 5-4-3 to hit into two DPs today
TAtis doesn’t have near the range for RF at Citi!
Jerry would have sat Joe D during the streak
Very encouraging work from Ollie. I think Brooklyn may have found the ace they were looking for. Too early to start printing “2009 NY-Penn League Champions” t-shirts?
Jon Miller (I think it was Jon Miller) didn’t just pronounce OPS “ops,” did he?
Yes he did. I’m shocked I always thought of Jon Miller as a Sabermetrics kind of guy
Wow, doesn’t that always happen….
the player who committed two non-error errors in the top of the inning leads off the bottom of the inning!
3 games out and counting
Wow Mr. DP didn’t hit a grounder to short…I guess that’s progress. I’m sure Nick Evans could have done that
I know that Tatis is a likeable player, but I have to admit …. I am starting to hate him.
He is not a rookie trying to find his way like FMART….. he is just a burger who has been on the grill too long.
Is anyone else embarrassed this weekend how this team is set up and how they are playing?????
If we’re counting on Nick Evans as a 5 hole hitter, this team is in very deep trouble.
Wonder if the Wilpons even give a sh*t about what this team looks like right now. Probably not – looks like the game is sold out so they are satisfied I’m sure.
They’re missing 3 of their 4 top offensive cogs. You can’t import enough talent to make up what they’re missing at this point. Do you think any team that lost what the Mets have would be able to compete over the long haul? For instance, the Phillies. Put Victorino and Howard on the DL along with Ibanez. Make Stairs the everyday 1B and Bruntlett the everyday CF along with Mayberry in LF and Rollins back at SS everyday. A batting order of Rollins, Bruntlett, Utley, Stairs, Feliz, Werth, Mayberry, Ruiz and the Pitcher most days. How well do you think the Phillies offense would function on a day to day basis? Keep in mind that Rollins is hitting .211, Mayberry .216 and Bruntlett under .200. Utley wouldn’t get pitched to much in that lineup. That’s the equivalent of what the Mets are facing right now.
Thanks – I am well aware of there injuries and I’m sick of making excuses for this franchise for the past three years! Every team has injuries, and I understand we have had more than every other team but our team has been severly injured for about a month now AND NOT ONE MOVE HAS BEEN MADE!!!!!! It is no excuse anymore. It is embarrassing. Period.
And the Phillies are in first place with the worst pithing staff in baseball. Kd Bart STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS FRANCHISE. THAT IS ALL WE EVER DO!
Not one move has been made, because there are no moves to make! We don’t have the trade chips to import anyone who is going to make up for the loss of Delgado, Reyes, Beltran, Maine, Pagan, Perez, I think I got them all! lol ANd we certainly don’t the chips or the salary room to aqquire more than one player! What part of that do people not get. If OMar tried to force a trade right now he would have to give up half the farm, and then what do you get? what you get is a player who may or may not be great, but will get pitched around every time he comes up in the order! W e have too many holes to fill and not enough sellers, trade chips, roster space, payroll space the list goes on and on! It’s not like Omar can call up Outfielders R US and order two Sluggers to go! This is what we have to deal with untill we get at the very least Beltran back, otherwise making a trade is moot!
I understand your point but that is the b*llsh*t that Omar and the Mets front office want you to believe. The Braves and Cardinals just made a deal to get better. I didnt want either of those guys but I’m sure there are deals to be made. You really dont think that a big bat in the lineup now will help the team until Beltran, Reyes and Delgado get back??? Or would you prefer Murphy hitting .245 at first or Tatis hitting under .200 in left field???
It is hard for season ticket holders like myself, who spent a lot of money this year on tickets to keep quiet when we see the level of talent that the Mets put out everyday.
I think ALL Met fans have the right to be PISSEd off considering how the last two seasons have gone.
Hey I’m not happy about it either, but I understand why the moves aren’t being made! I’ll take your trades for example: The Braves needed a CF (We didn’t need a CF at the time.) They gave up 3 players for a guy who is hitting .259, k’d 46 times, and an OBP of .340 does that sound like the kind of player that can truly help the Mets? I mean he’s got a little bit of speed, and some pop, but not 30-40 HR’s pop. Is he really worth three players? ……Mark Derosa is almost the exact same kind of player but with more positions and more grit ( BY THE way MCLOUTH WAS pulled again tonight for a Hamstring). Slightly higher .270 BA, 63 K’s and a .342 OBP. Cardinals gave up one of their top pitching prospects and a ptbnl. Again alot for what amounts to a rental (he’s a free agent after ‘09) and again I ask you could Mark Derosa really help this club and at what cost! Are u prepared to give up JOn NIece and someone else for a rental role player that is not going to have the slightest impact on the team in ‘09 and beyond? I’m not, OMar is right to only make trades that make sense beyond 2009, especially with limited trade chips. Yes trades can be made, but it has to be the right trade for a player that can truly help the Mets in ‘09 and beyond!
I completely agree with you which is why I said, I wouldn’t want either of those guys but my point was that trades could be made. I’ve said in other posts that I only trade prospects for long term players. Ie. Holiday and maybe Dunn.
I’m just extremely frustrated especially when I see Daniel Murphy costing us two outs in the first inning vs. The Yankees and we fall down 3-0, than I have to see Argenis Reyes drop a bunt to Arod (supposed to bunt the ball to first freaken base!) and getting Castillo forced out at second.
I’ve had enough of this. It is down right embarrassing.
And not for nothin how unathletic is Daniel Murphy??? I could teach a monkey to play left field. It is the easiest position on the field. He is decent at first but is about to cost us this game cause of his first inning defense. The guy has gotta be kidding me. Him and his .235 batting average are getting old. Time to trade him or send him to the minors. Enough of the “golden child.” I love how upper manangement over rates our prospects.
Please remind me what Nick Evans has done wrong to not start tonight????
Sorry just pissed off tonight…Hate losing to the Yankees. You could imagine how I felt when Luis Castillo dropped the fly ball.
No need for that, I don’t apologize for hating losing either.
Keep running Tatis out there, Jerry. No pint using Nick Evans after he drove in 4 runs in 2 days. Much better to have the Human DP Machine out there so you try and get him going.
Absolutely unbelievable. Murphy leading off is another stroke of genius. Is the man dropping a tab of acid before he fills out these lineup cards?
Hey Perez had a good outing in Single A ball. Relief is on the way.
Umm…Perez doesn’t hit does he?
and there is NO guarantee that any of the DL’d guys are coming back especially not soon
My god, their hitting is just brutally AWFUL. Someone has got to hit SOMETHING. It’s so painful to watch.
I live in Philadelphia and I went to the game yesterday. I left my place at like 1, went to my parents’ place in the burbs, then continued on to New York with my dad, went to the game, came back (train both ways), went back to my parents’ house, then drove back into the city, arriving at about 2 am.
13 hours.
One hit.
I understand your point but that is the BS that Omar and the Mets front office want you to believe. The Braves and Cardinals just made a deal to get better. I didnt want either of those guys but I’m sure there are deals to be made. You really dont think that a big bat in the lineup now will help the team until Beltran, Reyes and Delgado get back??? Or would you prefer Murphy hitting .245 at first or Tatis hitting under .200 in left field???
It is hard for season ticket holders like myself, who spent a lot of money this year on tickets to keep quiet when we see the level of talent that the Mets put out everyday.
I think ALL Met fans have the right to be PISSEd off considering how the last two seasons have gone.
Nate McLouth has not really improved the Brave offense. I live down here in Atlanta and the Brave offense is atrocious.
Who said I wanted Nate McClout or Mark DeRosa???? I didn’t want either. My point is that Omar tells us trades arent available and then I see the Cardinals and Braves make moves.
absolutely, trades are always available to be made you have to go out and get them done. guys are adam dunn, matt holliday, etc are not untouchables they can be had and if not can omar go after someone else I mean can he think outside the box or does he just look at mlbtraderumors and try to figure out what he should do next.
Lorenzo23, as far as I can see the whole thing begins and ends with the farm system. Omar doesn’t, and will never, be able to build a farm system even though he said that was his goal at his press conference when he got the job as GM. If Omar had worked on the farm system half as hard as he has trading away talent and getting next to nothing in return, the Mets may have a few more chips to make deals with. In MLB today, you have to grow your own talent and trade what you don’t need. And not since Frank Cashen have the Mets had a GM that understood how to build a fam system. I would move on to Jerry Manuel his imcompetence and the rest of his staff but I don’t think you have the time.
KL15 couldn’t have said it better myself.
Oh yea.. Bring Back Bobby V!!!!
baffling move letting Fernando Martinez hit against Coke and then PHing for Schneider.
If you PH for Martinez with Evans, sure the Yanks would put Hughes in to pitch, but then you get Schnieder up against Hughes instead of Santos.
All the matchups end up in the Yankees favor there.
Basics, how is this overlooked?
Nate W, that was another Jerry gem. I just can’t even stand looking at his face anymore–much less listen to his BS. The act is tired and theadbare.
Oh and by the way…Livan could have laid down a better bunt than Reyes did to try and advance Castillo.
Right on Chiefman….
i really do not want to see Rivera get his 500th at Citifeld.
hope you had your eyes closed
Too many bad major league hitters.
This offense is pathetic. I can live with being outshined by sabathia and CC but Wang. C’mon. Terrible approach and nice job David. What were you like 0-11 in the series. Way to be clutch.
I meant AJ.
Sorry, as good as KROD is … he can NOT be walking Rivera.
Un-FREAKING-believable. And what did he throw 40 pitches?
Some one please contact me when this team fields a major league team.
I think I need a few days off from this team. I have to say this weekend, I’ve earned on. I’ll fill the time with studying and things that are less painful than watching the Mets, like stapling myself.
can we return our tickets? i was under the impression i was purchasing them to see major league baseball.
At this point I expect the offense to be completely inept, and I dont expect anyone not named Johan to dominate the opposition, but these guys are getting paid a ton of money can they at least make routine plays and not walk the opposing pitcher especially when its a reliever pushing 40 with 2 prior career at bats! this team is a complete disgrace the only thing that could make it worse would be if our GM were sitting back while guys we could use were being traded to other teams in our league…oh wait.
ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSING!
Going to sleep… The Mets ruined another weekend…what else is new.
Dont worry Freddie Coupon the stadium was sold out I’m sure your sleeping ok…
The bad part about all of this is that there is no relief in sight.
It’s amazing that we can be 10 games UNDER .500 by the ASB.
I have a funny feeling that the door is closed and the window is sliding shut.
Omar needs to do something if they want to be relevent this year, or just tell us (again), in plain english this time, that help isn’t coming this year.
I feel sick watching this team, this is worse then 1987, it’s starting to feel like 1977.
Is Steve Henderson available?
Steve Somers had the best one liner about that “You can take the Mets out of Shea, but you can’t take the Shea out of the Mets.” This is going to be a long rest of the season.
Stupid line.
The issue is the length of the DL.
I am tired of people thinking this is a 2007/2008 issue, and more tired of Mets fans thinking this. If you do think this, or think that Somers line is intelligent, then I have to quetsion if YOU have been watching the Mets this season.
Right. Because this team plays solid fundamental baseball that hasn’t cost them multiple games this year.
-The entire team 1 hands catches all the time.
-They don’t run plays out.
-They don’t communicate simple pop ups.
-Razor Shines is a joke of a 3B coach who never stopped a runner until a month ago after being burned so many times previously.
-Murphy is TERRIBLE and has been all year. He can barely hit, and his hitting doesn’t make up for his atrocious defense at LF or 1B.
-Tatis can’t hit anymore, yet hits in the 5 hole. WTF?!?!?
-Cora has been exposed as not being able to be an everyday player.
-Perez: Million dollar arm, 10 cent brain.
And that’s just off the top of my head.
Correct. 2009 is not the same as 2007/2008. The latter was mostly due to bad performance. The former is mostly due to injuries to your most important personnel. Put it this way, between 2006-2008, Reyes, Beltran, Wright and Delgado all appeared in at least 139 games in a season. Last year, they all appeared in at least 159. This season, Reyes and Delgado probably won’t reach 100 and Beltran, if lucky, might reach 125-130.
After what moves, if any, that are going to be made are made. I guess that would be after July 31st. I would run out of pink slips I’d be handing them out so fast. I’m so tired of this “wait till the off season” stuff. Send a message for God’s sake. I hate losing, I especially hate losing with stupidity. Which is all I can say Jerry Manuel has brought to this team. The Chicago White Sox fire this POS and they win the World Series. Hello, Fred Wilpon, are you watching? I know you want to make money. I don’t begrudge you that. But unless you show your fans that you care about putting a professional product on the field, it won’t matter, no one will pay the money to cheer on a loser.
if there are no trades to be made then why aren’t we sellers? Even with the guys on the DL this team is NOT a Championship team, get ready for next year by trading anything and everything that can get you to that point. I mean where is the starting pitching to begin with? Pelfrey, Maine and Perez suck plain and simple and they’re our 2-4 starters. If Maine gets healthy trade him, along with schneider
Who on the Mets current roster that you would be willing to unload would command a high price in the trade market? No one is going to give you much of anything for Murphy, Evans, Tatis, Cora, etc.
No team in the Mets current injury situation would survive over the long haul. Imagine the Yanks with A-Rod, Jeter and Tex all on the DL at once or the Phillies with Ibanez, Howard and Victorino all on the DL? There are too many holes to fill. I’m not willing to mortgage the future in order to get a rent a player who won’t really make much of a difference at this point and Derosa and Dunn fit that category.
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I have been a big Daniel Murphy fan, but I am really down on him lately. He rarely gets a good swing, is late on most fastballs and is being hammered with the inside stuff. He never seems to drive the ball any more. His baserunning has always been shaky and we all know about his defense in LF. Then tonight he played defense in that first inning like a total buffoon…one major mental error on the vapprlock and ill-advised late throw to third and one physical error that should have been charged on that DP ball.
For first time I’m beginning to qestion whether he’s really a major league talent.
What a crap depressing weekend on all counts. A ton of onjured players, a bushelful of errors and dumbass plays in the field, and three days of limp at bats and poor execution when it came to moving up what few runnewrs we had.
And toi top it off we have a seond rate manager who ignores facts and figures because he likes to go with his gut, insists on starting a washed up Tatis when he should be DFA’s and who makes lineup and game strategy decisions that are sometimes baffling to the point of disbelief.
Having said all that, I have been a Met fan since 1962 and will never walk away. It just hurts to see us so ravaged by injury, bedeviled by stupid mistakes and errors and led by a guy who can’t manage a bullpen, can’t consistently fill out an intelligent lineup card and regularly makes poor decisions.
maybe if the team keeps tanking but sheffield continues to hit we can sell him to an AL team for something. I mean we really dont have much to sell to begin with but i mean his salary is so low and if hes a DH im sure someone in the AL could use him.
Jerry Manuel is horrendous. That is all I have to say.
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