Comments on: Note: The Next 16 Games http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: KickedintheMetsiclesAgain http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575466 KickedintheMetsiclesAgain Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:00:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575466 My expectation is that we are going to sink like a rock in the standings. If that occurs, I do NOT want Omar to finally make an acquisition at a point in time where one man will not fill the hole. The time to acquire was ages ago. When the Mets are 7-8 down and sliding further, I would like the Mets to make the right move and be a seller. My expectation is that we are going to sink like a rock in the standings.

If that occurs, I do NOT want Omar to finally make an acquisition at a point in time where one man will not fill the hole.

The time to acquire was ages ago.

When the Mets are 7-8 down and sliding further, I would like the Mets to make the right move and be a seller.

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575408 Mets5rocks Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:55:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575408 Even if the Nationals were to free up more payroll (although I don't know where, I believe Dunn would be their highest paid player in 2010) the price would still go down on Dunn I believe, because the Nats problem is not offense, it's their god awefull pitching and I'm sure they would like to free up as must cash for offseason aquisitions in the pitching dept. as possible. ANd as far as what you consider "replaceable parts", sure they are replaceable, but that gives you two opitons; A) wait atleast 2 years for our other pitching prospects to be ready for the bigs or B) you then have to use money that could be used to sign a big bat in the offseason to replace those pitchers! Now keep in mind that Carlos Delgado is going to be a free agent, so clearly as this season has painfully shown we have to replace his bat! It is not an option, it must be done! Now if you wait, keep your pitchers, and therefore don't create more offseason holes you have that extra payroll to go out and land a Matt Holliday type player in the offseason. I'm not saying don't make a move, I'm saying make the move when it makes the most sense for '09 and beyond! Without overpaying in the hopes of just saving the '09 season! Even if the Nationals were to free up more payroll (although I don’t know where, I believe Dunn would be their highest paid player in 2010) the price would still go down on Dunn I believe, because the Nats problem is not offense, it’s their god awefull pitching and I’m sure they would like to free up as must cash for offseason aquisitions in the pitching dept. as possible.

ANd as far as what you consider “replaceable parts”, sure they are replaceable, but that gives you two opitons; A) wait atleast 2 years for our other pitching prospects to be ready for the bigs or B) you then have to use money that could be used to sign a big bat in the offseason to replace those pitchers! Now keep in mind that Carlos Delgado is going to be a free agent, so clearly as this season has painfully shown we have to replace his bat! It is not an option, it must be done! Now if you wait, keep your pitchers, and therefore don’t create more offseason holes you have that extra payroll to go out and land a Matt Holliday type player in the offseason. I’m not saying don’t make a move, I’m saying make the move when it makes the most sense for ’09 and beyond! Without overpaying in the hopes of just saving the ’09 season!

]]> By: Razor Shines http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575402 Razor Shines Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:43:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575402 I just don't see how you can dump on a season less than halfway in, only a couple games off pace, because a few key players are hurt. I understand the treading water until the all-star game and seeing where you are theory more than this quitter's mindset. I just don’t see how you can dump on a season less than halfway in, only a couple games off pace, because a few key players are hurt. I understand the treading water until the all-star game and seeing where you are theory more than this quitter’s mindset.

]]> By: Razor Shines http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575401 Razor Shines Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:40:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575401 You just said two posts up the Nats would do that deal. So THAT is who would do a deal and THAT is who we would give. Jon Niese and Bobby Parnell are blue chip prospects because that is what you have been told. Just like any prospect we know nothing about. No one said boo when Heath Bell was traded because the shine was gone after blowing some games for us. The fact is that Jon Niese is replaceable and Bobby Parenll is replaceable, yet there is not an Adam Dunn anywhere to be found on this team. It just takes opening up the wallet. And that's what it comes down to. These injuries can cost you in one of two ways: the pocketbook, or wins. The Wilpons are choosing wins and hiding behind the excuses, to save a buck in 2012. You just said two posts up the Nats would do that deal. So THAT is who would do a deal and THAT is who we would give. Jon Niese and Bobby Parnell are blue chip prospects because that is what you have been told. Just like any prospect we know nothing about. No one said boo when Heath Bell was traded because the shine was gone after blowing some games for us. The fact is that Jon Niese is replaceable and Bobby Parenll is replaceable, yet there is not an Adam Dunn anywhere to be found on this team. It just takes opening up the wallet.

And that’s what it comes down to. These injuries can cost you in one of two ways: the pocketbook, or wins. The Wilpons are choosing wins and hiding behind the excuses, to save a buck in 2012.

]]> By: Razor Shines http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575400 Razor Shines Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:37:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575400 Not for nothing, but with Dunn signed thru 2010, couldn't his price go up by the deadline if the Nats manage to free money elsewhere first? What is the sense in waiting? And do you really think it's worth the next 25 games without Dunn just in hopes of salvaging -- let's face it -- replaceable parts? Not for nothing, but with Dunn signed thru 2010, couldn’t his price go up by the deadline if the Nats manage to free money elsewhere first? What is the sense in waiting? And do you really think it’s worth the next 25 games without Dunn just in hopes of salvaging — let’s face it — replaceable parts?

]]> By: Blue_n_Orange http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575399 Blue_n_Orange Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:35:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575399 Here's something i came across at mlbtraderumors: "Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail gets the sense that the Jays are ready to move Vernon Wells and/or Alex Rios for just about anything to free up enough money to keep Roy Halladay after next year. " Now Alex Rios definitely fits the bill as that Nady-type young hitter who needs to be moved for payroll reasons. What an addition that guy could be for us, and if the asking price is right it could end up being a real steal for the Mets. He's an athletic young outfielder who be great at CitiField. Here’s something i came across at mlbtraderumors:

“Jeff Blair of the Globe and Mail gets the sense that the Jays are ready to move Vernon Wells and/or Alex Rios for just about anything to free up enough money to keep Roy Halladay after next year. ”

Now Alex Rios definitely fits the bill as that Nady-type young hitter who needs to be moved for payroll reasons. What an addition that guy could be for us, and if the asking price is right it could end up being a real steal for the Mets. He’s an athletic young outfielder who be great at CitiField.

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575383 Mets5rocks Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:51:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575383 Who would you have him trade for???? Too many teams are still in it and there really isn't anyone available that isn't a rental or wouldn't cost half the farm! Who would you have him trade for???? Too many teams are still in it and there really isn’t anyone available that isn’t a rental or wouldn’t cost half the farm!

]]> By: KickedintheMetsiclesAgain http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575379 KickedintheMetsiclesAgain Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:39:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575379 Listen, I am no less a Mets fan than I have been for the last 36 years. I just dont want to watch the crap they are rolling out there this year. All I ask is that Omar not ruin the team by trading away good stuff. All I ask is that Omar set us up for next year. Trade away chips that will make us better. Realize that this is a loss year. Calvary is not just over the hill. They are far across the continent. I am okay with shutting it down. Put my emotions away for the rest of the year so they too can come back in 2010 strong as ever. All I ask is that you respect me as a fan. Acknowledge it is over and do the right thing. Dont wheel out the same pitiful lineups and call this a MLB caliber team. it is not. Listen, I am no less a Mets fan than I have been for the last 36 years.

I just dont want to watch the crap they are rolling out there this year.

All I ask is that Omar not ruin the team by trading away good stuff.

All I ask is that Omar set us up for next year. Trade away chips that will make us better.

Realize that this is a loss year. Calvary is not just over the hill. They are far across the continent.

I am okay with shutting it down. Put my emotions away for the rest of the year so they too can come back in 2010 strong as ever.

All I ask is that you respect me as a fan. Acknowledge it is over and do the right thing. Dont wheel out the same pitiful lineups and call this a MLB caliber team. it is not.

]]> By: markzila http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575375 markzila Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:27:15 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575375 great pic matt. you always find some gems! great pic matt. you always find some gems!

]]> By: Hit The Weights Zeile http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575373 Hit The Weights Zeile Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:25:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/06/29/note-the-next-16-games/#comment-575373 Im sick of this nonsense of us not having enough chips. That is TOTAL BS! didnt we not have enough chips to get johan santana? ask seattle how our crappy chips have worked out for them in the putz deal, not to mention every year we see guys like jason bay get traded for a song and dance. Omar simply is incapable of making an impactful mid-season trade, I hope he proves me wrong bc his next big deadline move will be his first. Im sick of this nonsense of us not having enough chips. That is TOTAL BS! didnt we not have enough chips to get johan santana? ask seattle how our crappy chips have worked out for them in the putz deal, not to mention every year we see guys like jason bay get traded for a song and dance. Omar simply is incapable of making an impactful mid-season trade, I hope he proves me wrong bc his next big deadline move will be his first.

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