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In a loss to the Brewers last night, Mets RHP Fernando Nieve allowed three runs in three innings, while allowing 11 hits, including a home run, and striking out just one.
“His stuff was not as quality as it has been, and they put some good swings on it,” Jerry Manuel told reporters following last night’s loss. “Hopefully the next time around he can get it together. He definitely deserves another shot at it.”
…nieve just didn’t have the same zip on and command of his fastball, and so he was pitching soft, looked to be overthrowing, he was behind in the count a lot and got hit pretty hard and often… frankly, he could have easily let up more runs, but Daniel Murphy made a nice pick up on a hot ground ball to first, which he quickly turned for an inning-ending double play…
…by the way, last night i asked: “Why does everyone at SNY keep calling him, ‘a journeyman pitcher,’ when he was with the Astros organization for his entire career before coming to the Mets?”
WTF 2103 sent an e-mail pointing out:
“Journeyman does not literally mean: a man who goes on journeys. A journeyman is an athlete (or worker, but especially athlete) who is reliable but not outstanding. Hence, Nieve is a journeyman.”
…fascinating… i had no idea… i did think it meant to jump from team to team… like he’s on a journey… thanks for the e-mail…
For more on journeyman, click here.
Speaking of taking a journey, will a power hitter be journeying to our cleanup spot now that we’re under .500?
Come on Omar get it Dunn!
I think Daniel Murphy could be a good piece to offer the Nationals, since Johnson is taking a free agent journey at the end of the season and there will be an opening at 1B. If he isn’t enough, I’m not terribly enamored with Parnell or Neise, but then again, neither may the Nationals. Do you think they might throw in LMilz?
I’d stick with Neive at least through the All Star break. He didn’t make me forget the first three starts, yet
Another definition:
When learning a trade (carpentry, plumbing, etc) the novice is called an apprentice. After a period of time, when their skill level has improved through experience, they are then known as a journeyman.
well this team needs to get another bat…i swear if the 3-4-5 dont each 4 for 5 this team has no chance…and sheff is only gunna last so long, hes better suited as a pinch hitter anyway…dunn is slowly becoming the guy i want…i wasnt in favor but he instantly helps..and if u put him in LF u dont need to worry about defense that much cause u would still have beltran and church
Anyone think the problem with Nieve was that he was pressing?
They say he was overthrowing. Perhaps the debacle against the Yankees got the better of him.
Next start for Nieve is against the Phillies. Tall order.
If he can beat the Yankees, Rays, And the Cards, Philly should not be an issue for him as the are inferior to all three of those teams especially without Ibanez in the lineup. I think he was just pressing after the weekend slaugter the mets endured. Time will tell though.
Typically, however, journeyman refers to a player who is good enough to stay in/near the major leagues, but usually winds up playing for several different teams. Elmer Dessens would be the definition of a journeyman pitcher.
Hmm … in all my years of sports fandom, I have never heard anyone reference an athlete as a “journeyman” unless they were both a veteran player and someone who had played for multiple organizations.
Journeyman in sports usually implies a certain type of player that is willing to change from team to team on any given year, along the lines of a veteran mercenary playing virtually anywhere for either the love of the game or the right paycheck.
Never before have I heard someone like Nieve called a journeyman, and if I had it would irk me as well Matt (despite what the original term journeyman meant).