Comments on: Quote: Manuel on Pelfrey, Wright and Leadership http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/02/quote-manuel-on-pelfrey-wright-and-leadership/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Old Backstop http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/02/quote-manuel-on-pelfrey-wright-and-leadership/#comment-576811 Old Backstop Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:47:59 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=37875#comment-576811 I agree with your assessment of past leaders, but please note all of those guys were in their 30's when they were leaders. Jeter as well, because although Jeter was a respected younger player, there were other veterans who were the leaders on those 90's Yankees teams. Jeter became more of a leader after 2000, as he was closing in on 30 years of age. I agree with your assessment of past leaders, but please note all of those guys were in their 30’s when they were leaders. Jeter as well, because although Jeter was a respected younger player, there were other veterans who were the leaders on those 90’s Yankees teams. Jeter became more of a leader after 2000, as he was closing in on 30 years of age.

]]> By: Agee's Catch http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/02/quote-manuel-on-pelfrey-wright-and-leadership/#comment-576707 Agee's Catch Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:52:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=37875#comment-576707 I really think there is more to leadership than barking. Jeter is a pretty quiet guy, but he's been the leader of that club for more than a decade. It's an aura thing - you just recognize it. In 69 it took Clendenon to show the team the way. Not to mention Seaver and Koosman were sick. In 1973, Rusty was the man In 1986, Keith 1999-2000 - Piazza I don't see Wright or Beltran or Reyes having the leadership thing. I'd never name either of them captain at this stage The guy I miss is Delgado. Beginning in June of last year, i think he figured out his role as leader I really think there is more to leadership than barking. Jeter is a pretty quiet guy, but he’s been the leader of that club for more than a decade. It’s an aura thing – you just recognize it.

In 69 it took Clendenon to show the team the way. Not to mention Seaver and Koosman were sick.

In 1973, Rusty was the man

In 1986, Keith

1999-2000 – Piazza

I don’t see Wright or Beltran or Reyes having the leadership thing. I’d never name either of them captain at this stage

The guy I miss is Delgado. Beginning in June of last year, i think he figured out his role as leader

]]> By: Old Backstop http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/02/quote-manuel-on-pelfrey-wright-and-leadership/#comment-576696 Old Backstop Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:20:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=37875#comment-576696 The leadership thing is really beginning to annoy me. For starters, David is only 26 years old ... regardless of what anyone says, age matters. You can lead by example at 26, but it's very hard to command presence among veteran players when they are older than you. If David starts barking at guys in their 30's, they will not respect him. At 26, it's not his job yet to be the clubhouse general. David has done everything else he can to be a leader at this point over the past several years. He's been in the race for the batting title this year, and in past years he has won gold gloves, made all-star teams and finished in the top 10 for MVP each year. He even steals bases and speaks often with the media. What more can he do to lead by example? Anyone journalist making a comment about David not being enough of a leader (at 26) should get an instant bucket of green slime dumped on them, old school style the way they used to roll on "You Can't Do That on Television" when someone was caught saying the phrase "I Don't Know". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBTrjZCyO94 The leadership thing is really beginning to annoy me. For starters, David is only 26 years old … regardless of what anyone says, age matters. You can lead by example at 26, but it’s very hard to command presence among veteran players when they are older than you.

If David starts barking at guys in their 30’s, they will not respect him. At 26, it’s not his job yet to be the clubhouse general.

David has done everything else he can to be a leader at this point over the past several years. He’s been in the race for the batting title this year, and in past years he has won gold gloves, made all-star teams and finished in the top 10 for MVP each year. He even steals bases and speaks often with the media. What more can he do to lead by example?

Anyone journalist making a comment about David not being enough of a leader (at 26) should get an instant bucket of green slime dumped on them, old school style the way they used to roll on “You Can’t Do That on Television” when someone was caught saying the phrase “I Don’t Know”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBTrjZCyO94

]]> By: RockfordMetsFan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/02/quote-manuel-on-pelfrey-wright-and-leadership/#comment-576691 RockfordMetsFan Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:43:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=37875#comment-576691 I would agree that it requires more than leadership. It requires a whole bunch of things including mental toughness, talent, luck, experience, and the failure of every other team to do the same. In a long 162 game season, it might come down to just one lucky or unlucky bounce that could make all the difference in the world. I would agree that it requires more than leadership. It requires a whole bunch of things including mental toughness, talent, luck, experience, and the failure of every other team to do the same. In a long 162 game season, it might come down to just one lucky or unlucky bounce that could make all the difference in the world.

]]> By: Beltranmynewfavmet http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/02/quote-manuel-on-pelfrey-wright-and-leadership/#comment-576690 Beltranmynewfavmet Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:37:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=37875#comment-576690 Its not leadership this team is lacking, its mental toughness. Mental toughness means focusing on the task at hand... it means that before a pitch, the fielders are thinking about what they will do in all situations (i.e. daniel murphy not throwing from first to third in the first inning the other day). It means taking charge on pop-ups. It means touching all the bases on a hit... This team has made more stupid mental errors than any team I've ever seen. Its not leadership this team is lacking... its mental toughness. Its not leadership this team is lacking, its mental toughness.

Mental toughness means focusing on the task at hand… it means that before a pitch, the fielders are thinking about what they will do in all situations (i.e. daniel murphy not throwing from first to third in the first inning the other day). It means taking charge on pop-ups. It means touching all the bases on a hit…

This team has made more stupid mental errors than any team I’ve ever seen. Its not leadership this team is lacking… its mental toughness.

]]> By: RockfordMetsFan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/02/quote-manuel-on-pelfrey-wright-and-leadership/#comment-576688 RockfordMetsFan Thu, 02 Jul 2009 12:31:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=37875#comment-576688 Leadership is influence. Leadership is ultimately not about power, control and authority as much as it is about the type of positive relationship that you have with others. It doesn't require it to be the person with the biggest mouth or ego or the most intimidating presence. It is about leading by example in both word and deed. On these fronts, I would say that David Wright fits the bill. He shows up to play every day, takes his lumps, and never makes excuses. I can't imagine that he has been totally injury free during his career, but we don't know it because he doesn't complain. Leadership is also about respect, and David Wright has mine. Leadership is influence. Leadership is ultimately not about power, control and authority as much as it is about the type of positive relationship that you have with others. It doesn’t require it to be the person with the biggest mouth or ego or the most intimidating presence. It is about leading by example in both word and deed.

On these fronts, I would say that David Wright fits the bill. He shows up to play every day, takes his lumps, and never makes excuses. I can’t imagine that he has been totally injury free during his career, but we don’t know it because he doesn’t complain.

Leadership is also about respect, and David Wright has mine.

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