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	<title>Comments on: Post Game: Phillies 4, Mets 1</title>
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		<title>By: wlaadair</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/04/post-game-phillies-4-mets-1/#comment-577619</link>
		<dc:creator>wlaadair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the Philly game yesterday and Wright did not give up on the pop up, Cora called him off and he gave up  on it, and clearly gave Wright the mea culpa hand on the heart gesture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the Philly game yesterday and Wright did not give up on the pop up, Cora called him off and he gave up  on it, and clearly gave Wright the mea culpa hand on the heart gesture.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnPacellasCap</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/04/post-game-phillies-4-mets-1/#comment-577533</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnPacellasCap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it&#039;s not worth making a trade for the guys rumored to be available for the asking prices that have been publicly suggested.  In this very difficult season, we are very fortunate to be in an incredibly mediocre division, which has allowed us to still be in it.  We&#039;d be buried in some of the other divisions.  

I disagree that DW isn&#039;t one of the reasons we&#039;re losing.  DW&#039;s reputation as one of the best players in the game doesn&#039;t actually match his on field performance this year.  He shouldn&#039;t be immune from criticism.  He&#039;s currently on pace for 10 hrs and 85 rbis, while striking out over 160 times.  Not great numbers from a power position.

It just seems that many here are very quick to blindly defend him where, from my standpoint,  he shoulders as much responsibility as any other player for the sub par play this year.  (Omar and Jerry are a totally different story).  Despite the injuries, we&#039;re still in it and can survive until reinforcements come if DW picks up his play.  It&#039;s not like he isn&#039;t getting opportunities due to all the replacement players in the lineup.  The chances are there but in many respects he&#039;s playing down to the quality of the rest of the roster.  Especially at a time like this, we need him to elevate his play, or at least be what he&#039;s been in past seasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it&#8217;s not worth making a trade for the guys rumored to be available for the asking prices that have been publicly suggested.  In this very difficult season, we are very fortunate to be in an incredibly mediocre division, which has allowed us to still be in it.  We&#8217;d be buried in some of the other divisions.  </p>
<p>I disagree that DW isn&#8217;t one of the reasons we&#8217;re losing.  DW&#8217;s reputation as one of the best players in the game doesn&#8217;t actually match his on field performance this year.  He shouldn&#8217;t be immune from criticism.  He&#8217;s currently on pace for 10 hrs and 85 rbis, while striking out over 160 times.  Not great numbers from a power position.</p>
<p>It just seems that many here are very quick to blindly defend him where, from my standpoint,  he shoulders as much responsibility as any other player for the sub par play this year.  (Omar and Jerry are a totally different story).  Despite the injuries, we&#8217;re still in it and can survive until reinforcements come if DW picks up his play.  It&#8217;s not like he isn&#8217;t getting opportunities due to all the replacement players in the lineup.  The chances are there but in many respects he&#8217;s playing down to the quality of the rest of the roster.  Especially at a time like this, we need him to elevate his play, or at least be what he&#8217;s been in past seasons.</p>
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		<title>By: methead</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/04/post-game-phillies-4-mets-1/#comment-577528</link>
		<dc:creator>methead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little late in my comments but...

Why are we on D Wright?  The HRs are down but the man is going to drive in over 100 runs and he has had a lot of clutch hits this season.  He is not ther reason we are losing.  We just have to many injuries.  And stop blaming omar.  For go sake we lost the best CF in the game, our #4 hitter, our spark plug and in some ways the heart of this team, our #3 and #4 starters and our setup man.  What do you expect?????  Its not his or Jerrys fault (I hate Jerry by the way).

Fact is we have no choice but to wait till the 2nd half.  There is a lot of baseball and we are not out of it until sept.  People want Omar to &quot;make a trade&quot; like its so simple.  Like people in the league want Gee, Niese and Muprhy.  Come on guys.  To get someone like Holliday its going to cost Fmart and your #2 &amp; #3 prospects.  Thats too much.  And we also have no idea Rios is actually available and what the asking price is.  There is also future impact, what his terrible contract will look like in a year, and quite possibly the bluejays and mets see a player not worth the $12 million he is getting.

Relax people.  We can&#039;t get upset at these losses.  We have to suck it up for 2 to 3 weeks and see how we look then.  3 weeks ago people said we need to make a deal before we get buried.  3 weeks later, we are not buried.  Calm down, the world aint crashing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little late in my comments but&#8230;</p>
<p>Why are we on D Wright?  The HRs are down but the man is going to drive in over 100 runs and he has had a lot of clutch hits this season.  He is not ther reason we are losing.  We just have to many injuries.  And stop blaming omar.  For go sake we lost the best CF in the game, our #4 hitter, our spark plug and in some ways the heart of this team, our #3 and #4 starters and our setup man.  What do you expect?????  Its not his or Jerrys fault (I hate Jerry by the way).</p>
<p>Fact is we have no choice but to wait till the 2nd half.  There is a lot of baseball and we are not out of it until sept.  People want Omar to &#8220;make a trade&#8221; like its so simple.  Like people in the league want Gee, Niese and Muprhy.  Come on guys.  To get someone like Holliday its going to cost Fmart and your #2 &amp; #3 prospects.  Thats too much.  And we also have no idea Rios is actually available and what the asking price is.  There is also future impact, what his terrible contract will look like in a year, and quite possibly the bluejays and mets see a player not worth the $12 million he is getting.</p>
<p>Relax people.  We can&#8217;t get upset at these losses.  We have to suck it up for 2 to 3 weeks and see how we look then.  3 weeks ago people said we need to make a deal before we get buried.  3 weeks later, we are not buried.  Calm down, the world aint crashing.</p>
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		<title>By: ericloz</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericloz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my humble opinion; D.W. is Scottie Pippen, the problem is that we&#039;re missing M.J.

D.W. is a fine All Star, but until he turns the corner and learns how to win, he will always be a second fiddle.

There is nothing wrong w/ that, it&#039;s just we&#039;re looking to him as if he were able to carry the club like a Agee, 
Strawberry,  Piazza, Beltran, Delgado, and he can&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my humble opinion; D.W. is Scottie Pippen, the problem is that we&#8217;re missing M.J.</p>
<p>D.W. is a fine All Star, but until he turns the corner and learns how to win, he will always be a second fiddle.</p>
<p>There is nothing wrong w/ that, it&#8217;s just we&#8217;re looking to him as if he were able to carry the club like a Agee,<br />
Strawberry,  Piazza, Beltran, Delgado, and he can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 03:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing as the Wilpons just signed Omar to a 4 year extension during the offseason, I doubt he&#039;s going anywhere.  On the whole I agree with his strategy of not selling the farm for a rental.  But it also seems he&#039;s not able to spend money either.

Jerry is another matter.  I pray that he and the entire coaching staff and trainers will be let go come November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing as the Wilpons just signed Omar to a 4 year extension during the offseason, I doubt he&#8217;s going anywhere.  On the whole I agree with his strategy of not selling the farm for a rental.  But it also seems he&#8217;s not able to spend money either.</p>
<p>Jerry is another matter.  I pray that he and the entire coaching staff and trainers will be let go come November.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier22</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/04/post-game-phillies-4-mets-1/#comment-577518</link>
		<dc:creator>Xavier22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think Rios&#039; contract is ridiculous, just wait until you hear what Bora$ will demand for Holliday with the Sox and Yanks in the market for a LFer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think Rios&#8217; contract is ridiculous, just wait until you hear what Bora$ will demand for Holliday with the Sox and Yanks in the market for a LFer.</p>
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		<title>By: Xavier22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xavier22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can say the same thing about Holliday and people are willing to trade the farm for him, even though he&#039;s a FA next year and will be represented by Bora$.  Rios is a comparable alternative, is under contract for 4 years and will cost peanuts in prospects compared to Holliday.

As for Dunn, the main problem I have with him is that he&#039;s yet another lefty and that his defense is atrocious.  Plus the Nats asking price is astronomical by all accounts.  If they can get him for Murphy and an AA pitcher, great.  But there&#039;s been no indication that Nats are looking to sell him cheaply.  And I do wonder why Omar never seriously considered him during the offseason was he was available at a relatively bargain basement price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can say the same thing about Holliday and people are willing to trade the farm for him, even though he&#8217;s a FA next year and will be represented by Bora$.  Rios is a comparable alternative, is under contract for 4 years and will cost peanuts in prospects compared to Holliday.</p>
<p>As for Dunn, the main problem I have with him is that he&#8217;s yet another lefty and that his defense is atrocious.  Plus the Nats asking price is astronomical by all accounts.  If they can get him for Murphy and an AA pitcher, great.  But there&#8217;s been no indication that Nats are looking to sell him cheaply.  And I do wonder why Omar never seriously considered him during the offseason was he was available at a relatively bargain basement price.</p>
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		<title>By: KL15</title>
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		<dc:creator>KL15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish they would to.  If at nothing else, just say they (The Wilpon&#039;s) are embarassed with the shape the organization isin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish they would to.  If at nothing else, just say they (The Wilpon&#8217;s) are embarassed with the shape the organization isin.</p>
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		<title>By: Chiefman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chiefman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wright-bashing accomplishes nothing. You can&#039;t expect superhuman deeds from him. he is a very good player...he is not a god. No one player can carry this team. I am as sick of his strikeouts as you are. But he&#039;s not the reason we suck.

We suck because of injuries, horrendous fundamentals on the bases and on defense, a terible manager, and a handful of trades and poor free agent signings that stuck us for a few years with overpaid underperformers. I think we overvalue some of our prospects, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wright-bashing accomplishes nothing. You can&#8217;t expect superhuman deeds from him. he is a very good player&#8230;he is not a god. No one player can carry this team. I am as sick of his strikeouts as you are. But he&#8217;s not the reason we suck.</p>
<p>We suck because of injuries, horrendous fundamentals on the bases and on defense, a terible manager, and a handful of trades and poor free agent signings that stuck us for a few years with overpaid underperformers. I think we overvalue some of our prospects, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chiefman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chiefman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 02:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at Rios&#039;s numbers...his OPS had declined for three consectuive years. He is no longer a very productive player...he is not much better than Francouer. He will add nothing. What&#039;s the point of giving up anyone for him? You take a look at his numbers and tell me what you see that makes him worth trading for? We&#039;ll be no better with him. Dunn is another matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at Rios&#8217;s numbers&#8230;his OPS had declined for three consectuive years. He is no longer a very productive player&#8230;he is not much better than Francouer. He will add nothing. What&#8217;s the point of giving up anyone for him? You take a look at his numbers and tell me what you see that makes him worth trading for? We&#8217;ll be no better with him. Dunn is another matter.</p>
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