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		<title>By: ericloz</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578852</link>
		<dc:creator>ericloz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what was their record prior to 02?

How many times did they win it all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what was their record prior to 02?</p>
<p>How many times did they win it all?</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo23</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578786</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not a small sampling of angry fans. The fan confidence on this website is 3 out of 10. I dont think all those people who voted 3 or under are happy. Also read the newspapers, put on WFAN, and watch the shows on SNY where the talk show guys who are employed by the Wilpons are even angry, and you will see the angry fans are NOT a small sampling.

And I am right about the payroll it is less than last season and the reason why I&#039;m frustrated about that is not only cause of the price of admission but also cause we could of had a couple of solid players for cheap during the off season and the Wilpons cheaped out.

And like many other Met fans I didn&#039;t think the Mets had the ability to win 92-95 games before the season because they didnt address a big need - A CORNER OUTFIELDER! We desperately needed one and this season proves that we were correct.

Lastly, I have no problem with Jerry Manual but despite what happens I still want Bobby Valentine leading this team next season! Bring back Bobby V!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not a small sampling of angry fans. The fan confidence on this website is 3 out of 10. I dont think all those people who voted 3 or under are happy. Also read the newspapers, put on WFAN, and watch the shows on SNY where the talk show guys who are employed by the Wilpons are even angry, and you will see the angry fans are NOT a small sampling.</p>
<p>And I am right about the payroll it is less than last season and the reason why I&#8217;m frustrated about that is not only cause of the price of admission but also cause we could of had a couple of solid players for cheap during the off season and the Wilpons cheaped out.</p>
<p>And like many other Met fans I didn&#8217;t think the Mets had the ability to win 92-95 games before the season because they didnt address a big need &#8211; A CORNER OUTFIELDER! We desperately needed one and this season proves that we were correct.</p>
<p>Lastly, I have no problem with Jerry Manual but despite what happens I still want Bobby Valentine leading this team next season! Bring back Bobby V!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo23</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578764</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that has been Perez&#039;s problem. Inconsistency. He shows flashes of brilliance and than pitches like he&#039;s never pitched before. Unfortunately this season he&#039;s pitched like he&#039;s never pitched before lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that has been Perez&#8217;s problem. Inconsistency. He shows flashes of brilliance and than pitches like he&#8217;s never pitched before. Unfortunately this season he&#8217;s pitched like he&#8217;s never pitched before lol</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo23</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578763</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the rest of his in season performance????? The games his single handedly won for us with his bat and speed???

You can&#039;t blame Jose Reyes cause his worst month of the year was September ....You gotta be kidding me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the rest of his in season performance????? The games his single handedly won for us with his bat and speed???</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t blame Jose Reyes cause his worst month of the year was September &#8230;.You gotta be kidding me!</p>
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		<title>By: cb32</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578756</link>
		<dc:creator>cb32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your note on the $149 is likely correct.  I did think this year&#039;s payroll was either flat or a couple of million down from last year.

And questioning wins and playoff births is more than acceptable.  Again, over the past four years they increased the Mets wins by 18 wins a season on average versus the previous few.  That is largely due to spending money to bring in top free agent talent (Pedro, Beltran, Delgado, Santana, etc.).  They do only have 1 playoff appearance in that time; falling ever so short the last two years because of collapses.  Unfortunately, the money they spend doesn&#039;t negatively affect the competition directly.  In fact, if I recall last year the Mets won the season series from the Phils and yet still fell to them.

As for the hiring decisions, I think Minaya was a good signing at first but much like Dolan giving Isiah a mandate to make the playoffs and then rewarding him halfway through the season with an extension only to see the Knicks fall flat on their face, I think Omar&#039;s extension was premature.  Jerry Manuel on the other hand took over a team that had looked terrible and almost managed them into the playoffs last year.  Say what you will about winning in spite of him, they didn&#039;t win in spite of Willie so Jerry was doing something right.  I had no problem with Jerry&#039;s hire based on who else was available and his performance with a roster that would likely remain unchanged year over year.  It is clear now that without his horses in the lineup, Jerry is not a good young player&#039;s manager (constantly running on DP machine Tatis) but like it or not, that is not what we signed Jerry up for.

All in all, the anger of Mets fans is largely exaggerated based on a small group.  Most fans while they hold opinions on the farm system, whether we should have signed Manny/Dunn, etc. understand that when you lose your all-star SS and CF and your probably HOF power threat for an extended period of time, you are going to lose ballgames.  If you thought this team on opening day was a 90-95 win team, you would have to expect the current product is an 75-80 win team at best right?

The funny part is imagine the attitude on this site if the Mets sweep the Dodgers.  Baseball has a way of generating quick emotions so hopefully Pelfrey can beat Kershaw tonight and we move forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your note on the $149 is likely correct.  I did think this year&#8217;s payroll was either flat or a couple of million down from last year.</p>
<p>And questioning wins and playoff births is more than acceptable.  Again, over the past four years they increased the Mets wins by 18 wins a season on average versus the previous few.  That is largely due to spending money to bring in top free agent talent (Pedro, Beltran, Delgado, Santana, etc.).  They do only have 1 playoff appearance in that time; falling ever so short the last two years because of collapses.  Unfortunately, the money they spend doesn&#8217;t negatively affect the competition directly.  In fact, if I recall last year the Mets won the season series from the Phils and yet still fell to them.</p>
<p>As for the hiring decisions, I think Minaya was a good signing at first but much like Dolan giving Isiah a mandate to make the playoffs and then rewarding him halfway through the season with an extension only to see the Knicks fall flat on their face, I think Omar&#8217;s extension was premature.  Jerry Manuel on the other hand took over a team that had looked terrible and almost managed them into the playoffs last year.  Say what you will about winning in spite of him, they didn&#8217;t win in spite of Willie so Jerry was doing something right.  I had no problem with Jerry&#8217;s hire based on who else was available and his performance with a roster that would likely remain unchanged year over year.  It is clear now that without his horses in the lineup, Jerry is not a good young player&#8217;s manager (constantly running on DP machine Tatis) but like it or not, that is not what we signed Jerry up for.</p>
<p>All in all, the anger of Mets fans is largely exaggerated based on a small group.  Most fans while they hold opinions on the farm system, whether we should have signed Manny/Dunn, etc. understand that when you lose your all-star SS and CF and your probably HOF power threat for an extended period of time, you are going to lose ballgames.  If you thought this team on opening day was a 90-95 win team, you would have to expect the current product is an 75-80 win team at best right?</p>
<p>The funny part is imagine the attitude on this site if the Mets sweep the Dodgers.  Baseball has a way of generating quick emotions so hopefully Pelfrey can beat Kershaw tonight and we move forward.</p>
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		<title>By: starz31</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578752</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that funny that Perez helped us in 06 yet why did we re-sign him and I cant disagree with either of those points...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that funny that Perez helped us in 06 yet why did we re-sign him and I cant disagree with either of those points&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ToastyJoe</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578748</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both his average and his OBP dropped a whopping 16 points in the month of September, he had only 5 stolen bases the whole month of September, and ZERO stolen bases in the last two weeks of September.  But you&#039;re right, he had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the team fell apart in - what month was that again?  Oh right....September.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both his average and his OBP dropped a whopping 16 points in the month of September, he had only 5 stolen bases the whole month of September, and ZERO stolen bases in the last two weeks of September.  But you&#8217;re right, he had absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the team fell apart in &#8211; what month was that again?  Oh right&#8230;.September.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo23</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/07/read-mets-fans-are-angry/#comment-578744</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver Perez pitched brilliantly in 2006 and in the playoffs. Also we got Roberto Hernendez in that same Perez deal he pitched well down the stretch. How did the Sanchez injury hurt us exactly???? That was actually one of the decent moves Omar ended up making ...

Resigning Perez was a stupid move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver Perez pitched brilliantly in 2006 and in the playoffs. Also we got Roberto Hernendez in that same Perez deal he pitched well down the stretch. How did the Sanchez injury hurt us exactly???? That was actually one of the decent moves Omar ended up making &#8230;</p>
<p>Resigning Perez was a stupid move.</p>
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		<title>By: Hit The Weights Zeile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hit The Weights Zeile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not at all the same.  that would be the equivalent of trading brad holt for scott hairston.  That clearly is not going to happen.  There was more to the kazmir trade than we are privy to.  Omar may be stupid but hes not that dumb.  trading mediocre prospects for adam dunn while frustrating since we couldve just signed him will not be like the kazmir deal.  Remember Kazmir was a top 10 pick in the previous years draft who do we have in our system that is even close to that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not at all the same.  that would be the equivalent of trading brad holt for scott hairston.  That clearly is not going to happen.  There was more to the kazmir trade than we are privy to.  Omar may be stupid but hes not that dumb.  trading mediocre prospects for adam dunn while frustrating since we couldve just signed him will not be like the kazmir deal.  Remember Kazmir was a top 10 pick in the previous years draft who do we have in our system that is even close to that?</p>
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		<title>By: kd bart</title>
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		<dc:creator>kd bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bullpen collapsed in 2006 because the starters couldn&#039;t get through 5 innings night after night even if given a substantial lead.</description>
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