Comments on: Buzz: The Blue Jays, Rios and Halladay http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: wright5murph28 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579366 wright5murph28 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:46:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579366 well you dont mind spending the wilpons money, but the wilpons and omar already seem to have said they arent taking on ridiculous contracts like his anymore(thx ollie and castillo) well you dont mind spending the wilpons money, but the wilpons and omar already seem to have said they arent taking on ridiculous contracts like his anymore(thx ollie and castillo)

]]> By: jesse52782 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579361 jesse52782 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:25:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579361 Pelfrey is a head case and just not a very intelligent pitcher...I would trade him in a heartbeat if we got any value for him... Pelfrey is a head case and just not a very intelligent pitcher…I would trade him in a heartbeat if we got any value for him…

]]> By: jesse52782 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579360 jesse52782 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:23:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579360 I think Met fans are the only ones who think Murphy has value I think Met fans are the only ones who think Murphy has value

]]> By: jesse52782 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579358 jesse52782 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:18:59 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579358 There is no way he is going to Philly. They cannot afford him. He is going to demand a new contract as a condition of his trade and there is no way the Phils are going to offer a 32 year old pitcher Santana/Sabbathia money. If they did it would pretty much guarantee Howard is gone next year. Even with shedding Howard's $15 mil they still couldnt afford him. They would have to trade Utley or Rollins too There is no way he is going to Philly. They cannot afford him. He is going to demand a new contract as a condition of his trade and there is no way the Phils are going to offer a 32 year old pitcher Santana/Sabbathia money. If they did it would pretty much guarantee Howard is gone next year. Even with shedding Howard’s $15 mil they still couldnt afford him. They would have to trade Utley or Rollins too

]]> By: wnymetsfan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579343 wnymetsfan Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:00:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579343 I believe I heard in passing on the radio this morning he wants to stay in Toronto and not be traded so chances are he might not even be traded. I believe I heard in passing on the radio this morning he wants to stay in Toronto and not be traded so chances are he might not even be traded.

]]> By: wnymetsfan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579342 wnymetsfan Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:58:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579342 Which is why you would propose it to him instead of forcing him to make the move. I do not think he would go for it through as he looked pretty uncomfortable in the infield the few times he was brought in to play 5 infielder. Guy probably never played anything other than CF. Which is why you would propose it to him instead of forcing him to make the move. I do not think he would go for it through as he looked pretty uncomfortable in the infield the few times he was brought in to play 5 infielder. Guy probably never played anything other than CF.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579337 VCarver Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:55:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579337 Well, the whole point of asking him first is to make sure he's happy with a move. So I wouldn't consider it unless he's fully on board. Assuming he is, then you don't have an unhappy Beltran to deal with. He may look at it as prolonging his career. Look at what happened to Bernie Williams when he could no longer play CF or even LF and RF. They should consider it. If they leave him in CF and we just see a lot more DL stints in the future, the club is gong to suffer again. Who knows? He might be good defensively there. He's a good natural athlete to begin with so that helps. You never know if you don't try. Well, the whole point of asking him first is to make sure he’s happy with a move. So I wouldn’t consider it unless he’s fully on board. Assuming he is, then you don’t have an unhappy Beltran to deal with. He may look at it as prolonging his career. Look at what happened to Bernie Williams when he could no longer play CF or even LF and RF.

They should consider it. If they leave him in CF and we just see a lot more DL stints in the future, the club is gong to suffer again. Who knows? He might be good defensively there. He’s a good natural athlete to begin with so that helps. You never know if you don’t try.

]]> By: wnymetsfan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579336 wnymetsfan Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:53:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579336 Seemed like a good idea when they signed him to the deal but he has just dropped off the Earth Seemed like a good idea when they signed him to the deal but he has just dropped off the Earth

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579330 Mets5rocks Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:43:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579330 Frankly it does'nt matter if Beltran likes the move or not! Likewise with his agent, the most Beltran could do about it is request a trade that he knows full well isn't likely to happen given the size of his contract. That said, I don't think it's in the best interest of the Mets to put him at first base as he will likely struggle there defensively as well as being unhappy at the position. Alot of people seem to think that first base is the catch all for aging players. But frankly 1B is alot harder to play than one might imagine. It's not just sticking you glove out when the ball is thrown. There is footwork, and hops, bounces, timing, double plays and the like that very few career outfielders could perform well. Combine that with an unhappy gold glove CF and that offensive production is likely to suffer, which defeats the purpose entirely! Frankly it does’nt matter if Beltran likes the move or not! Likewise with his agent, the most Beltran could do about it is request a trade that he knows full well isn’t likely to happen given the size of his contract. That said, I don’t think it’s in the best interest of the Mets to put him at first base as he will likely struggle there defensively as well as being unhappy at the position. Alot of people seem to think that first base is the catch all for aging players. But frankly 1B is alot harder to play than one might imagine. It’s not just sticking you glove out when the ball is thrown. There is footwork, and hops, bounces, timing, double plays and the like that very few career outfielders could perform well. Combine that with an unhappy gold glove CF and that offensive production is likely to suffer, which defeats the purpose entirely!

]]> By: Kendog52282 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579324 Kendog52282 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:38:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/08/buzz-the-blue-jays-rios-and-halladay/#comment-579324 The Mets don't have the chips to trade for anyone who would help right now, not unless they completely unload the farm system which is not happening. The only thing they can do is take on a bad contract, like a Rios, but don't know how much that would help. There biggest chip IMO is Putz, if he comes back and is back to form the mets and pick up the option (which they should do regardless IMO) and trade him as a top end closer. Say to Tampa Bay. The Mets don’t have the chips to trade for anyone who would help right now, not unless they completely unload the farm system which is not happening. The only thing they can do is take on a bad contract, like a Rios, but don’t know how much that would help. There biggest chip IMO is Putz, if he comes back and is back to form the mets and pick up the option (which they should do regardless IMO) and trade him as a top end closer. Say to Tampa Bay.

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