In a post to Mets Merized Online, Russell Zanca says, “If you’re not feeling desperate, then I think you don’t understand MLB.”
According to Adam, the Brooklyn Met Fan, “The Mets are unwatchable… It’s that simple.”
That said, on My Summer Family, Coop explains why she is not ready to give up, saying, “In fact, I’m kind of excited to see how this season will end up.”
Jason Fry from Faith and Fear in Flushing would like to discuss 2010 with Omar Minaya.
Speaking of the future, Mack of Mack’s Mets lists his plan for what is essentially a fire sale, including cutting and trading players.
Sam Page of Amazin Avenue takes a closer look at Mets 18–year-old, Single-A OF Cesar Puello, and who he compares to.
In a post to Hot Foot, Rob Harding brainstorms some trade ideas for Jose Reyes, including deals with the Red Sox and Rangers.
Lastly, John from Metstradamus explains the significance of last night’s score.
For more on last night’s loss, read post-game recaps from Flushing Faithful, the ‘Ropolitans, the Real Dirty, and Mets Today.
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We were there right to the bitter end last night. Adding insult to injury, Dodger fans flanked us on all sides. What made it worse was exiting through the Dodger Rotunda with jubilant L.A. fans. The Wilpons and Omar need to do something about this MESS now!
Boy that Rotunda really looks silly when the team it honors is in town, no?
Of course, they also sell Brooklyn Dodgers t-shirts in the gift shops.
I’m hating that rotunda more and more – and the fact that they sell Dodgers gear at the team shop just adds insult to injury. Why not call it the Gil Hodges rotunda if Freddie wants to pretend the Mets are the Brooklyn Dodgers? At least Hodges had a connection to the team!
I really like CitiField – except for that friggin’ rotunda. I avoid it as much as possible.
That is very true. I was in the Banner store last night and horrified to see that there were DODGERS SHIRTS being sold in there. Are you kidding me? I am totally writing a letter to the Wilpons about this. It is ludicrous.
I’m contemplating the same thing – maybe an open letter to the Wilpons and send it to the local papers.
If the letter starts: “Dear Mr Wilpon, I was at CitiField for a game in July…” he will stop reading right there and take it as a win.
HA!
“Hey Jeffy, this guy was at a game in July! Mission accomplished!”
*high fives each other*
I don’t mind the rotunda…its not like I’m going to hang out around there all game, Its fine to walk through.
The Dodgers gear is a little interesting.
Fans wanted Manny, well we signed him alright…oh I mean, the dodgers signed him.
it’s just the principle of it, especially as there really isn’t anyplace in CitiField that honors the Mets or past Mets players (Seaver being the most obvious example).
It’s as if the Wilpons are ashamed of the Mets history. I’ll admit it’s not extensive, but the team did have its moments.
I was at the game last night and thus didn’t see the broadcast, but I have heard Pelfrey’s College Coach was interviewed. I have also heard he said Pelfrey pitched better in college. Can someone verify and put in context. Did he mean he pitched better overall, or just better than last night?
Also, maybe the wrong section, but I think I am done with games for the season. I will usually do between 15 and 20 during the course of the season, and despite having less money than last year, probably would have done the same. However, I simply cannot justify 25$ to sit in the upper deck and watch this horrendous product.
Pelf’s college coach was mainly talking about how Pelfrey had more zip on his fastball in college and how he was always so impressed with the location and movement. Said he consistently threw in the high-90’s. has he ever done that on the pro level?
I don’t think I have ever seen high 90’s (97-99), but certainly a few years ago he would sit at 95 more consistently. I am not one who believes velocity is everything, but in Pelf’s case, as long as the ball is moving it can’t hurt. I did not follow the gun as closely as usual last night, but he seemed to be around 93. I think it is important to remember also, the mound in college is closer than pro’s. This has to have some effect on velocity.
I do not believe that the mound in college is closer. It is 60 feet 6 inches from the bump (rubber) to the plate. Where did you hear that it is closer?
I was wrong, it is the same distance. Not sure where I heard it, but i was watching the other day and it just appears closer.
Pelfrey was a different kind of pitcher in college. He struck people out and didn’t monkey around with sinkerballs. They changed him when he came here. The thing is, he needs a good defense behind him to be successful since he pitches to contact. The problem is, as we know, the Met defense is deplorable. He’d be better off just throwing 4 seamers and blowing people away.
i am definitely interested to see how the season will end up. i don’t think “excited” is the right word… this is all about as exciting as watching paint dry.
yes, “interested” is a much better word. Void of passion or anticipation.
an even better word would be “disinterested”
how about “beginning to see”
Its one thing if you are a season ticket holder … most likely you will not let your tickets go to waste, especially if the weather is good.
But I have to ask, I keep seeing these invites to “Mets at the Movies”. I am trying to understand why people will pay $12 and then high prices for food and beverage on site, to watch this team (unless they enjoy Mets follies and the theme to Benny Hill plays in the background in place of Ron/Keith/Gary).
I can barely watch the team on television without throwing up in my mouth.
Although, when my drinking buddies come over, we play drinking games based on dropped balls, face plants, Tatis DPs and David Wright Ks. Needless to say, we get very drunk.
Church really is Tatis’s lefthanded DP counterpart, but it sounds like you are drinking enough. Someone might get hurt adding anything else to the mix.
Thank heavens your not having a shot for every Mets scoreless inning!
You’d all be in the Betty Ford Center by now!
I am trying to have myself hypnotized to believing its the mid 1970s. I recall in those years, not knowing any better, getting excited when we were less than double digits below .500, though that was usually after a rate hot streak.
I hope it works. I think that is the only way I will enjoy the rest of the season.
Well, 1973 we were a pretty good team, and then shortly after that the owner died and left the team to people that didn’t care and sold off Seaver and others. We were essentially the Nationals for 4-5 yrs. So there was no expectations in the late 70s, except the hope that the owners would finally take the chairman out of power, which they did — and when they brought in Cashman, it was a rebuilding team. This is more like 1990-1993 than it is the 1970s, unfortunately. Tho we competed in the early 90s more than it seems, things went downhill fast in 1992-93.
Niese needs to be called up IMO.
I think I like Mack’s moves.
I even agree on Daniel Murphy. I kind of look at it the same way I look at David Lee: good enough to be productive on a bad team, but not good enough to elevate a good team. Funny thing: Neither DLee or Murph play defense….
Murphy should be in AAA. He’s in way over his head. The guy has never played at AAA before, and here he is, making adjustments that should be made at lower levels against major league pitching, and at the same time learning a brand new position on the job (for a second time in a year). Again, at the major league level. I think he has a bright future, in a few years he could be top 5 batting leader, and may even learn to play 1b adequately too.
Whether you agree with this or just think he is not good and never will be, either way he should be in AAA.
I think I do, too. Not quite ready to call it a day, but we’ll see at the end of the month.
I have a trade proposal. I know most of these are just to pass the time because we are not GMs and don’t know the real economics behind most of the deals and we certainly don’t know the players’ personalities and how they affect a trade, BUT…
I say we try to get Halliday. They want guys under control on the cheap. I say we send them Niese, Parnell, and Wright for Rolen, Halliday, Romero, and Rios. They rid themselves of big money in Rios, Rolen, and Halliday, get a righty and a lefty starter to replace their righty and lefty starters that they are dealing, make out like bandits at third, and open up a spot for Travis Snyder in the outfield. Any thoughts???
Bad idea. Halliday rules but you are not trading David Wright for him.
Rios is a good offensive guy and Romero is much better than Niese. But I do agree that no trade will “fix” what is broken. Also, the reason I move Wright is I am growing tired of his game. Pulling off of balls to hit home runs and striking out and weakly grounding out is getting old. His defense is getting worse everyday. I am a season ticket holder and I watch him warm up. He stands close to the infield, and half lazily and half jokingly slings the ball to first in between innings. ARod, conversely, stands at the back of the cutout, and throws each and every throw overhand to Tex at first and hits him right in the mitt. Everytime. Is it any surprise that Wright has problems throwing to first in games? Sorry for the rant, but I am frustrated…
I’m frustrated to, but I am still not willing to trade David Wright. I would however trade Reyes for all those boston players.
No good. Halliday is the only good player you’re getting back, but he’s 32 and he won’t help enough since he can only go out there once every 5 days. This team needs offense more than pitching right now. You know darn well the offense wouldn’t support Halliday one lick and he will lose games 1-0, so why bother?
Pelfrey looked like a high school pitcher last night. Walking Furcal to load the bases with two outs was disgusting but then walking Hudson to force in a run with Manny on deck should have earned him a punch in the cup from “Sleepy” Manuel.
As for trades, trade the GM and Manager in for the Dodgers Farm Director and Wally Backman.
Sorry for the typos, we are seeing red… Meant to say:
As for trades, trade the GM and Manager for the Dodger’s Farm Director and Wally Backman.
Enough of this hand-wringing over this season. These aren’t the real Mets anyway. Injuries happen, and the Mets took it hard this year. So, until the full roster comes back–August, September, next year–I’m of the mind that says play hard, see what happens, and keep things in place to make a run the minute this team comes back healthy. That means, don’t sell off the farm for one marginal big bat, and don’t act shocked when this very untalented replacement roster doesn’t win a whole lot of games. I mean, what team has a ready-to-go, complete back-up roster, ready to jump in at a moment’s notice? And that’s what the Mets would have needed at this point.
I still root for these guys every night, even if they are looking more and more like a Triple -A team. But hey, I’ve been a fan since 1970, and have seen far worse Mets teams than most of the people on this site.
I agree wholeheartedly, my man. I, too, have seen far worse teams and rooted for them. As you say, this is not the Mets, but they are playing hard. Without our 1,3, and 4 hitters and our 2 and 4 starters and our 8th inning guy (plus our old closer) we should not be expected to compete against the defending champs and the team with the best record in the NL. Keep faith and hope Reyes, Beltran, Delgado, Maine, Perez, Putz, Wagner, et al come back healthy and energized to play aggressive, hard, good baseball…
how much did tickets cost in the 70s?
I can remeber sitting in the upper deck for something like $1.75. No joke.
This is the dark hour for us. Time to rebuild. Macks Mets suggestions made a lot of sense. These things happen. At least we won’t be choking in September this year.
Let’s Go Mets in 2010!
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