Comments on: Buzz: The Cost of 2B Freddy Sanchez http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lorenzo23 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580681 Lorenzo23 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:02:06 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580681 I think you are seriously underrating two very good pitchers. What type of risk would we or anybody be taking with Halladay? He is the best pitcher in baseball and is turning only 33. Hes been dominant in the Al East the best division in baseball over the last ten years. He would probably want a 100 million over 6 or so year extension and a lot of guys on this site wanted Derek Lowe for 16 mil a year for 4 years. Also Halladay isnt a power pitcher - he is similar to a Derek Lowe who normally have long careers cause they dont put much pressure on their arms. And if we could role out Halladay and Santana every 5 days next season or the Phillies can role out Hamels and Halladay its pretty good. I think you are seriously underrating two very good pitchers. What type of risk would we or anybody be taking with Halladay? He is the best pitcher in baseball and is turning only 33. Hes been dominant in the Al East the best division in baseball over the last ten years. He would probably want a 100 million over 6 or so year extension and a lot of guys on this site wanted Derek Lowe for 16 mil a year for 4 years. Also Halladay isnt a power pitcher – he is similar to a Derek Lowe who normally have long careers cause they dont put much pressure on their arms. And if we could role out Halladay and Santana every 5 days next season or the Phillies can role out Hamels and Halladay its pretty good.

]]> By: methead http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580624 methead Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:48:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580624 Are you kidding me?????? the guy hasnt had a winning season with double digits and his era is always over 5.00. Stop being acting like Oliver is some bum because he isnt. Are you kidding me?????? the guy hasnt had a winning season with double digits and his era is always over 5.00.

Stop being acting like Oliver is some bum because he isnt.

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580552 Mets5rocks Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:51:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580552 I'm sorry, but Hammels has got to pitch an entire season in the big leagues with no DL trips,or missed starts and be sucessful before I jump on his bandwagon .Even Ollie Perez can pitch well in a few big games in one season. I'm sorry, I just don't think he's all that. I mean when he's healthy he's a good pitcher, but he's no Ace, that for sure. As for the Phils the chances of them getting Halladay realistically it is pretty slim, the fact that they are going so hard at Pedro speaks to that fact, but hey if they want to burn most of there prospects on a 32 y/o pitcher, then so be it, maybe Hammels and Hallady can be bunk mates on the DL sometime. To me it's not worth the risk at Halladays age when you figure he's going to want atleast 4 years on an extension and I just don't see him wanting to pitch 5 plus years in that bandbox in Philly. So at best the Phils burn their prospects for a full season of Halladay as they would likely be looking to trade him before the deadline next season if not before once they realize he has no intention of staying in Philly. At that point (in the off-season) if the Mets want to burn money instead of farm and team building prospects, then by all means sign him to a realistic deal. Not to another bad contract for his age. I’m sorry, but Hammels has got to pitch an entire season in the big leagues with no DL trips,or missed starts and be sucessful before I jump on his bandwagon .Even Ollie Perez can pitch well in a few big games in one season. I’m sorry, I just don’t think he’s all that. I mean when he’s healthy he’s a good pitcher, but he’s no Ace, that for sure. As for the Phils the chances of them getting Halladay realistically it is pretty slim, the fact that they are going so hard at Pedro speaks to that fact, but hey if they want to burn most of there prospects on a 32 y/o pitcher, then so be it, maybe Hammels and Hallady can be bunk mates on the DL sometime. To me it’s not worth the risk at Halladays age when you figure he’s going to want atleast 4 years on an extension and I just don’t see him wanting to pitch 5 plus years in that bandbox in Philly. So at best the Phils burn their prospects for a full season of Halladay as they would likely be looking to trade him before the deadline next season if not before once they realize he has no intention of staying in Philly. At that point (in the off-season) if the Mets want to burn money instead of farm and team building prospects, then by all means sign him to a realistic deal. Not to another bad contract for his age.

]]> By: Lorenzo23 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580536 Lorenzo23 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:18:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580536 No the same Cole Hamels that was dominant down the stretch last season and was the World Series MVP... That Cole Hamels. Hamels era is also influenced by the stadium they play in.. Put him in Citifield every 5th day and it's definitely different. Listen I hate the Phillies with a passion but lets be realistic. Halladay + Hamels would be devasting No the same Cole Hamels that was dominant down the stretch last season and was the World Series MVP… That Cole Hamels. Hamels era is also influenced by the stadium they play in.. Put him in Citifield every 5th day and it’s definitely different.

Listen I hate the Phillies with a passion but lets be realistic.

Halladay + Hamels would be devasting

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580535 Mets5rocks Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:10:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580535 Perhaps if Jerry would leave Tatis on the bench where he belongs, he might get more out of Murphy and Evans, that not to say they can carry the team, they aren't ready for that. But I think we have a much better chance to win with Tatis on the bench, and consistency in the field and in the lineup. Perhaps if Jerry would leave Tatis on the bench where he belongs, he might get more out of Murphy and Evans, that not to say they can carry the team, they aren’t ready for that. But I think we have a much better chance to win with Tatis on the bench, and consistency in the field and in the lineup.

]]> By: dykstraw http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580523 dykstraw Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:53:38 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580523 last year we had high potential guys who were underperforming. when they started performing, we predictably started winning. so while last year was much more frustration, it was much less hopeless. this year, three high potential guys are hurt they have been replaced by low potential guys. so it really takes some serious magical thinking to think that murphy, evans, tatis and sheffield are going to start playing way over their heads and carry this team anywhere. last year we had high potential guys who were underperforming. when they started performing, we predictably started winning. so while last year was much more frustration, it was much less hopeless.

this year, three high potential guys are hurt they have been replaced by low potential guys. so it really takes some serious magical thinking to think that murphy, evans, tatis and sheffield are going to start playing way over their heads and carry this team anywhere.

]]> By: dave27 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580518 dave27 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:48:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580518 whisk, know, king...apologies for the typos. whisk, know, king…apologies for the typos.

]]> By: dave27 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580517 dave27 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:46:53 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580517 No, the issue is the Mets would whick a player like that into a closed-door meeting with Ebbetts Fred and Clueless Jeff and be told not to make headlines. We all nkow image and stability are kind with the Wilpons. And Reynolds would have to issue some sort of subtle apology later. You think the Wilpons would compliment someone for doing this? Please. I think Sanchez could be star-caliber in a bigger market and in the right lineup. That said, no way we even talk to the Pirates because we already have Castillo and Minaya refuses to consider replacing any of his 'core' players even if their returns are 50/50 at best. And if it were up to the media, Halladay would already be a Phillie. I bet the Dodgers get in there, and I also think the Cardinals ar not going to let themselves be outbid. The need to re-up Pujols soon and an ace like Halladay makes them that much more attractive. Plus LaRussa and Duncan have proven they can make gold out of castoffs, so building artound 2 studs is plausible there...they can complement them at will. No, the issue is the Mets would whick a player like that into a closed-door meeting with Ebbetts Fred and Clueless Jeff and be told not to make headlines. We all nkow image and stability are kind with the Wilpons. And Reynolds would have to issue some sort of subtle apology later. You think the Wilpons would compliment someone for doing this? Please.

I think Sanchez could be star-caliber in a bigger market and in the right lineup. That said, no way we even talk to the Pirates because we already have Castillo and Minaya refuses to consider replacing any of his ‘core’ players even if their returns are 50/50 at best.

And if it were up to the media, Halladay would already be a Phillie. I bet the Dodgers get in there, and I also think the Cardinals ar not going to let themselves be outbid. The need to re-up Pujols soon and an ace like Halladay makes them that much more attractive. Plus LaRussa and Duncan have proven they can make gold out of castoffs, so building artound 2 studs is plausible there…they can complement them at will.

]]> By: Nate W. http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580510 Nate W. Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:34:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580510 John Maine would probably be the most contract/performance comparable pitcher to Sanchez. Perez was until he became a FA. Of course he would have to get back on the field first... John Maine would probably be the most contract/performance comparable pitcher to Sanchez. Perez was until he became a FA.

Of course he would have to get back on the field first…

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580509 Mets5rocks Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:32:19 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/10/buzz-the-cost-of-2b-freddy-sanchez/#comment-580509 I agree I think Beltran, Reyes, are alot farther off then they are letting on. And frankly I think the FO put Delgado on the field briefly to give the fan base just enough hope to keep buying tickets, there is no way he's anywhere approaching ready. It would be nice, but I doubt it. I agree I think Beltran, Reyes, are alot farther off then they are letting on. And frankly I think the FO put Delgado on the field briefly to give the fan base just enough hope to keep buying tickets, there is no way he’s anywhere approaching ready. It would be nice, but I doubt it.

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