Earlier tonight, the Mets traded OF Ryan Church to the Braves for OF Jeff Francoeur and ‘cash considerations.’
…i understand why the deal was made, i am just not sure it matters or makes total sense… though, i like having frenchy’s defense and arm in Citi Field, and, if he gets it together, he has the potential for power that i am not sure church had… either way, this was clearly a change-of-scenery deal, and i’m not sure it will have that big of an impact in either direction…
Last month, in a report for SNY.TV, Ted Berg wrote, “If the Mets trade for Francoeur, I’m out. I’ll find someone else to write this column.”
Today, in a report, still for SNY.TV, Berg reviews the deal, and writes:
“I’m here, so I haven’t quit quite yet, but some small part of me hopes someone holds me to that statement… I was mostly kidding because I didn’t think the Mets would do something like that; I didn’t think the front office could be so silly as to think Jeff Francoeur might be the answer to any single one of their questions… Egg on my face.”
In a post to his blog for Newsday, Ken Davidoff says, among other things, “What does it say about how little regard the two teams held for these two players, that they were willing to make this trade even though the Mets and Braves are both historic rivals and current rivals? Neither club apparently feared the ramifications of this deal enough to squash it. Both clubs were that desperate.”
According to Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse, “One scout who specializes in the National League called it a win for the Braves, noting that Atlanta seemed unlikely to tender Francoeur a contract after the season, effectively releasing him.”
The scout labeled Francouer ‘a project,’ Price says.
Jim Bowden, on the other hand, said he gives the edge to the Mets.
In a post to Mets Geek, Alex Nelson writes, “I suppose Francoeur does have more upside than Church… But at this point, 2600-plus plate appearances into his career, I just don’t see him ever meeting that ceiling, or coming very close.”
Lastly, at his blog for ESPN.com, Rob Neyer asks, “The Braves got a decent hitter and fielder who bats left-handed… The Mets got… what, exactly? If you figure it out, drop a line to Jerry Manuel. He’s going to need all the help he can get with this one.”
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Only time will tell. I don’t think anyone can think much of this deal, just by judging it on its face. Are we sellers?
I don’t think that’s what this trade indicates, but who the true winner is in the trade won’t be known for some time I believe. It all depends on if Frenchy can learn some plate discipline. Perhaps Beltran”s machine or the 80 pitch drill could help………Who knows at this point.
church is what he is he isnt getting better hes 30. francouer is 25 and even if he doesnt improve is probably still more productive than church and is at worst equal defensively.
I have to wonder that anyone who likes this deal has ever seen Francouer play. He is a terrible hitter who has no idea of the strike zone. Once pitchers stopped throwing him first pitch fastballs, his career has gone in the toilet. He no longer hits for power, does not get on base and has only average speed. His only positive is his throwing arm and he plays a decent rf. Reminds me of when we traded for Richard Hidalgo in 2004, a player clearly on a steep downhill slide. Like trying to catch a falling knife, I guess.
While Church has been nothing special, he is still a better player than Francouer.
Suprise, surprise… mostly anyone who knows anything about baseball thinks the Mets lost this deal.
Color me shocked. Francoeur isn’t suddenly going to figure out how to get on base more than 30 percent of the time. He’s not going to suddenly learn how to become a slugger by moving into Citi Field.
And his defense is remarkably overrated because he happens to have a strong arm. What a dumb deal.
Church was bringing what exactly to the Mets? Forgetting to touch 3b? A complete lack of knocking in runs. Francoeur at his worst is still driving in more runs than Church. A player 5 years younger who has knocked in 100runs a couple times, I’ll take any day over Church who’s done what exactly in his career and he’s now 30. This is a guy who’s been in the doghouse of every manager he’s ever played for (except Willie b/c he was hurt.)
Who exactly is “mostly anyone who knows anything about baseball” Neyer and a few bloggers? Please. Church was not going to be on the Mets next year and weren’t going to get more than this for him. There’s little risk involved here and if they spin Frenchy in another deal it’ll be all forgotten.
congrats don logan, you have common sense and logic, two things lacking in most of the people who write for and comment in this blog. 5 yrs younger, has knocked in 100 runs before, at worst is better offensively and the same defensively plus hes right handed which balances the team out and the next offensive acquisition whenever that doesnt have to be a certain side hitter.
I’d have to disagree with your analysis, Zeile. Francoeur IN THE PAST was better offensively; he is not now. He gets on base at a much lower rate (60 points lower than Church), slugs at a lower rate (last I looked, 30 to 40 points lower). His OBP is unacceptable at the ML level. Whether he used to drive in 100 runs is irrelevant (aside from the fact that RBI is a very flawed stat.) I think Dave Kingman drove in 100 runs during that one great year with the Cubs; I don’t want him in right field for us now, either.
That said, I’m not defending Church—he, too, was far below average for a RF offensively. The one glimmer of hope is that Francoeur might still have a shot at developing at 25. (Pretty sure Church is forever a light-hitting OF who wouldn’t start for a playoff-caliber team.) And in the grand scheme, this trade is equivalent to a Castro-for-Broadway exchange.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. There is no defending the acquisition of such a lousy baseball player. Omar, what are you thinking? This is sheer stupidity. Was Ryan Church that bad of an influence in the clubhouse? This is a monumentally stupid move.
The purpose of signing Francoer is so you could complain about his low OBP and his huge number of strikeouts.
What a BS trade. I love the added (cash considerations included TO THE METS).
Church was one of the few guys that was performing on both sides.
Good arm? Church had the best OF arm on the team. Did we really need to upgrade? It was a first class arm.
Church had less RBIs because he had less ducks on the pond.
Can Francoer get a walk? He is worse than Reyes was his rookie year.
So what Francoer is only 25 and we have him under control for so long. Who wants his stats?!!!!!
He is awful.
He was also the second easy out on the Atlanta lineup?! Now the pitchers will have a more difficult time.
Need to trade away an ex-National?????? It should have been Schneider, not Church!
My goodness Omar. You were getting hammered for not trading. Well, you should have continued to sat on your hands. This trade was awful. Wilpons will love it though since there are cash considerations.
I hate this trade.
Sure we could use a righty bat, but a .250 BA and a .285 OBP? Are you kidding me?
Do you really need to skip a space after every sentence?
Sheffield knocked more runs in in just under a month than Church did all season so don’t blame lack of ducks on the pond for Church’s lack of RBIs. He clams up in the clutch. Who doesn’t touch 3b?? Who wants a guy on the team who does that?
He’s a platoon player. He was hitting .167 against lefties w/ 4 RBIs. We got an everyday player in exchange.
With the bases loaded, Church is hitting .000, w/ RISP he’s .213, scoring postion and two outs, he’s .214.
But yea, lets blame no ducks on the pond.
Francoeur bases loaded- .333
scoring position & 2 outs- .313
RISP- .244
Not outstanding by any means but still better than a part-time player in Church w/ no power and no ability to get clutch hits.
Are you kidding me?
.289 OBP? Are you kidding me?
Strike out machine? Do we really need that? Are you kidding me?
Spaces make it easier to read! I am not kidding you!
Strikeout Machine????
Frenchy 304 AB’s 46 K’s
David Wright 314 AB’s 84 K’s
…………..I think that says it all about the strikeout machine! I’m not saying Franceour is a .350 hitter but I think the strikeout thing is a little overblown. Considering Franceour has a higher BA than half the lineup that started tonight (albeit not by much) for his age, and defensive skill, and the fact that he’s a RH bat we could certainly do worse! Unless of course you would like too see more of Argenis Reyes in the lineup…UGH!
You obviously have not watched Francouer play. I live in Atl and have watched hom the last two years. He stinks. Dumb trade. Atlanta fans are laughing their asses off at this. Only someone who hasn’t seen this guy play or someone who knows little or nothing about the game of baseball would see this as a good deal for the Mets. Omar was had on this one big time.
Actually I have seen him play I watched in horror in August ‘06 at Shea as he crushed a homer over the RF fence! I’m not saying it’s good or bad at this point I reserve judgement as we all should. But the fact that he’s younger, plays as good defense as CHurch (but with a better arm) Is RH which helps, and is without a doubt more durable than CHurch who has yet to prove he can play everyday (and I like Church, don’t get me wrong, but it’s the facts) I don’t think one can look at this trade right now, and say without a doubt the Mets lost on this one. Church was going to go in the offseason anyhow (that much was clear) who else are you going to get for a 30 y/o OF er who hasn’t proved he can play everyday yet?
Neyer is half-right – Church has been nothing but underwhelming since his second consussion last year – Francouer is just clueless. Maybe Minaya was just desperate to acquire someone with the potential to get DLed for anxiety… it seems to be the one injury we’re missing right now.
Jeff Francoeur will sprain an ankle doing an OJ at DIA and end up on the DL after the ASB.
Church will hit 35 home runs and carry Atl. to the playoffs.
bets anyone?
It’s a change of scenery deal for both teams since I don’t think either player was in either teams longterm plans.. Church was a nice complementary player but he’s already in his 30s and the best you could hope to get out of him was maybe .280 20 80. Francouer is 5-6 years younger and has a higher upside potential. Maybe, the change will get his career back on track. If so, he’s capable of .290 25 95 (He’s done it in the past). The winner of this trade won’t be determine for some time.
what is the big deal here if you ask me francouer is a younger (5 yrs younger) RH version of church with more upside offensively. also it allows the mets to maybe go after nick johnson or aubrey huff and not worry about being too left handed. ted berg seriously needs to relax with the im out stuff and matt first you said you liked the move then you say it doesnt make sense then you say it may work out? honestly people like church and i liked him just as much as anyone but when its all said and done the guy didnt do much for this team and frankly wont be missed.
I think it has less to do with losing Church and everything to do with having to endure “Frenchy” at the plate 4 times a game for the second half of the season. And I do agree with the sect of Mets fan who are dissatisfied largely on the premise that the Braves would NEVER trade us a worthwhile piece. The Braves were desperate to dump and Minaya wanted to shake things up. We’d be better off right now letting guys like Murphy, Evans and Niese take their lumps routinely at the ML level and dumping Livan and Tatis then to experiment with the Oliver Perez of hitting.
fair enough but i mean murphy is a 1bman. I agree that we should look to sell livan and maybe sheff, honestly tatis wont get us anything, we will have to give him away (which im fine with). but i think this is a good move bc of age, durability, potential and it makes us less left handed and now we can just focus on LF, 2B, 1B and C in the offseason, oh and starting pitcher and bullpen….well good thing omar started work earlier this year than usual.
What I was trying to get across is if the Mets are looking for a shake-up I’d rather just see them cut bait with the dead weight on the roster than to trade for another team’s castoff right now.
I’m completely willing to give Francouer a chance, but if this guy shows nothing in the second half, I hope Minaya does the right thing and non-tender or trade him in the off-season because I can’t go into another season with a project in the OF considering the other corner in all likelihood is going to be FMart.
If you see upside in Francouer you are way, way, way off. I have watched his decline the last two years. He is one of the least productive corner outfielders in baseball. The Braves have been trying to dump him for a weeks. Only a team in the toilet as badly as we are would make this deal. Church is just OK, but trading him for a zero like Francouer is beyond stupid.
I don’t see anyone wondering why the Braves would do this deal . . .
there was an interview on WFAN just now w/ a Atl beat writer.
Basically Atl. got tired of Frenchy and wanted him gone.
Both teams are hoping that a change of scenery will work wonders, and that the Met fans will love Frenchy and his open attitude and personality.
Basically frenchy is the blind date your aunt set up for you in college, great personality and tons of potential once you get to know him. .
And hopefully he stops swinging for the fences and re-learn to use the whole field. They couldn’t get that thru his thick skull.
Actually if you compare general hitting stats between the two teams the Braves hitting coach isn’t doing any better with their hitters. Now I don’t know how much HoJo can help, but sometimes just hearing the same thing from someone else just seems to register better. Happens with my kid all the time, I can try to teach him a baseball skill and forget it I might as well be talking to my shoe, but he goes to practice the next day and his coach tell him the same thing literally almost verbatum and he picks it right up!
THAT blind date?! The one with the club foot? And the lazy eye? And the mustache? D@mn you, Aunt Margaret!
you have an Aunt M. too.
Man, I feel bad for you. But can she cook or can she cook!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really want Frenchy as your everyday RF next year? isn’t one miserable season enough, lets field a real team next year that cna win.
If he hits like ‘07 absolutely! Why not, Church was going to get traded in the offseason anyway you could see it coming a mile away. Look I like Church, but who else are you going to get for a guy who’s 30 and has yet to prove he can play everday and be consistent?
im not sure what to think about the trade…but someone said earlier they wonder if minaya could use frenchy as part of a deal for a holliday…maybe just wishful thinking
If Omar flips Francouer and gets someone as good as Holiday then I think this was a good deal. Otherwise it’s a dumb move to acquire a player whose game has steadily delcined for two seasons. He has been exposed as a lousy hitter. You don’t think so…just watch what you get from him. He swings at EVERYTHING. The guy stinks. His nickname in Atlanta the last two years was Francine. Really stupid acquisition.
They needed to clear his payroll to may room for a potential deal to help make a push, Francour was a chunk of change not producing. I have a feeling this is a move for the Braves to go after a Holiday or Dunn; they need another big bat to compete they think and Garrett Anderson and Kotchman have both been busts.
As far as the Mets we can use him or trade him..if the change lights him up like most trades do we could flip him right before the deadline. If not it is a defensive upgrade and batting in front of Wright (and Beltran when he gets back) he will get some fastballs to hit. He also hits with power that the ball flies and he will be able to hit in Citi if he gets his stroke back.
I personally think he will do okay with us because he’s lived his whole life in Georgia, grew up a Braves fan and now probably feels (as I’m sure Church does) he has something to prove. Many in Atlanta felt one of his issues was that he was too comfortable being close to home and so much family and friends, NYC will either make or brake him…
I dunno that Payroll had much to do with it as the Braves only save 270,000 and change, and that’s not going to pay for Sheffield let alone Dunn, or Holiday and they couldn’t afford either anyway. I have a feeling that Adam Dunn isn’t going anywhere anytime soon as the Nats don’t have to trade him, and likewise with Holiday unless he picks it up big time.
It’s more like 500k money (3.3 mil this season) but he is signed until 2012 but yeah upon closer consideration they just wanted rid of him. Apparently him going to the Texas hitting coach in the off season caused a rift with Pendelton and Cox.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if HoJo got him straightened out as Pendleton robbed him of his MVP in 91? I do think HoJo may be able to give him some discipline as well as the culture shock of NYC.
We’ll see…
The Braves are not in a win it all this season mode. At best they are a couple games above .500. If they wish to mortgage their future to stay under .500 for the next few years that would be stupid. Holliday or Dunn are not coming to Atlanta. The Braves simply wanted to get rid of Francouer and the Mets wanted Church gone. Its that simple.
Who knows? Francouer could have a Brad Lidge 2008 type of resurrection. I mean after 2006 and 2007, would you had thought Lidge was capable of being perfect throughout 2008.
stupid trade period. it addresses nothing that needed to be addressed.
pointless other than to prove mike fatcessa correct.
all of this is non sense, revisionist history says we should have signed abreu and hudson in the off season and not had to worry about who was in right or if slappy was going to use 2 hands to catch a pop up…church could have been playing left after the circus known as murphy couldnt catch a cold….man i need the all star break as much as the team does!
Here’s another way to look at this deal: in the 2007 off-season, would the Mets have traded Lastings Milledge for Jeff Francoeur and Brian Schneider? Absolutely! The fact that neither Church nor Francoeur has performed particularly well since then makes it an upgrade.
I agree that this move was a change of scenery deal, but it also was to rid the team of two things it’s trying to get away from: players who make careless mistakes (e.g., missing third base) and players who miss too much time due to injuries. We’ll never know the truth about the concussions, etc from last year, but I think the Mets were convinced that Church’s head (no pun intended) was not in the game.
Yea this makes no sense…u wanted to upgrade RF? Hey Omar and Co why dont u fix the gaping hole that is LF before u upgrade RF which didnt even really need upgrading…i guess John Ricco is as dumb as omar
Church was pretty much the 2nd best hitter on the team and has a rocket for an arm. So trading him for a younger, less reliable hitter doesn’t really make any sense to me. It’s as if they made a move to make a move instead of making a move that makes any sense.
This is just a waste of my time. What they would have done with Church, they’ll pretty much do with Franceour — I just have to spend time training myself to un-hate a former Brave.
Basically, all in all, screw you Omar.
Rocket for an arm? Is this Frank Costanza?
lol
In regards to the question as to whether Omar thought through this trade completely, he said in his press conference today that, “He is 25, I think.” I THINK? I THINK? How can he not definitively know the age of the player that he just traded for? Omar probably remembers a few home runs that Jeff F. hit against the Mets over the past few years and decided he’d be good. Omar is a simple, simple man.
jeff francoeur probably won’t be a met the next time the mets actually matter, but ryan church definitely won’t be. this season is over so why not maximize young upside. smart deal and hopefully a signal that we will SELL SELL SELL.
also i’ve never seen him miss third base
not much to sell at the moment as it is all on the DL and the stuff that MAY have had value has suddenly tanked, Livan namely.
but the point on Francouer is correct he plays the game hard and smart which is a plus.
I think the key to being a successful GM is realizing in deals like this you can’t please everyone. It’s pretty polarized on both sides, check out the AJC blog site…
http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2009/07/10/the-francoeur-trade-a-sad-but-necessary-ending/
At this point we as a team can’t be any worse…
I hear that Omar spoke to Hojo before the trade, and Hojo indicated he discovered a flaw in Francoeur’s swing, which he would be able to fix in 10 minutes.
HoJo will get on that after he fixes Wright, whose swing he’s methodically destroyed over the course of 3 seasons.
I cant wait for Keith to critique Francoeuir swing. He wont pull any punches.
Keith has already said time and again, with Francouer, it is not his swing it is his approach, his aggression and pitch recognition.
I think the Mets traded a 4th outfielder for a guy thats 25 with potential. To me its a pretty solid low risk/high reward move.
We all talk about how young Daniel Murphy is but Francouer is only a year older than Murphy.
I say we start jettisoning as many players as possible and start signing some of the ‘69 Mets. They couldn’t do any worse, and it would be a lot of fun to see my childhood heroes.
I’d sign Ed Kranepool to play first, Art Shamsky and Ron Swoboda to platoon in right, Cleon Jones to play left, Jerry Grote to catch, Bud Harrelson to play short, Ed Charles to upgrade the defense at 3rd, and Ken Boswell to play second. I’d bring back Tom Seaver, Nolan Ryan, Jerry Koosman and Gary Gentry to join the rotation with Johan.
Tommie Agee would have been my centerfielder and Donn Clendenon would have been my first baseman, except that both are no longer with us.
I guarantee that none of these players would miss third, because they’d never make it there anyway. It would be one, long glorious old-timers game. Whatever happened to them anyway?
As time went on Ryan Church reminded me of Kevin McReynolds but with no hint that he would take down Mike Scioscia in the 9th inning of a playoff game.
Church has talent, but he is 30 and plays the game like it is an 18 hole golf outing.
A couple of questions. First, was Ryan Church really a problem? Second with the hitting problems that Francoeur, and there may be few, does anyone think this coaching staff is going to work those out? I hope Church does well. I always thought he acted more like a man than Jerry Manuel. I’m going to stop there because I don’t want to trun everything into a “hate Jerry” session. Although I’d like to because I HATE that man.
Well Jerry has now been able to successfully run two players out of town. For a guy with a two-year contract who hasn’t won jack squat, that’s pretty impressive.
Yeah, cause you know what Ramon Castro was and is such a world beater.
Castro is all of 3 for 26 with 2 homers and 5 rbis since joining the White Sox.
So what? What has Santos done since his little Cinderella run in May? The bottom line is this organization is run like a pre-school.
Although not great, he’s produced better numbers than Castro. Castro was roster fodder.
Constnza, fans like you are amazing, you obsess with the likes of Castro and Church just because you can, not because it MEANS anything.
That is totally unfair. I was rocking the “In Omar We Trust” slogan a few years ago but the state of this franchise has gotten progressively worse since our peak in 2006. The idea that a guy like Jerry – who’s only proven that he’s A Willie Randolph style manager with a better personality – can more or less “run guys out of town” regardless of their quality just speaks volumes about the state of this organization. I’m getting to a point where we need a clean sweep of things. Enough justifying the failures of the last three years. This isn’t a mid-market franchise — don’t go around and say we’re “championship caliber” and then follow it with “well we were one game short” and “we were injured.” I obsess over guys like Church and Castro because outside of the “core” this team is built around a group of inconsequential players that we have to “hope” come through. You think Phillies fans wouldn’t be upset if Charlie Manuel ran out of town guys like Werth, Victorino, Madson and Feliz – role players all, but role players who actually contribute in a meaingful way.
Where is the light at the end of the tunnel? Okay, so 2009 is a bust because of injuries – but Beltran is getting older and may not be able to play CF anymore for a full season. After dodging the injury-prone label that dogged Reyes a few years ago, he’s back with an injury that just can’t seem to heal itself. Wright is all sorts of messed up. We have glaring holes in the OF, 1B and C. Pelfrey has regressed. Maine has really regressed. Ollie is awful. Santana is getting older. Murphy has been a bust and doesn’t have the confidence of his manager. The manager seems to have ulterior motives besides just managing the roster he’s been given. All of are reinforcements in the minors are years away from being contributors. And I’m just supposed to shrug my shoulders at the fact that this GM, who has had almost every major move and signing he’s made since 2006 backfire (save for Santana and K-Rod), just acquired perhaps one of the worst offensive players in baseball.
I’m glad you’re so open minded. I was open minded three years ago and was proven wrong again, and again, and again. And now I acknowledge it. So don’t start talking about “fans like you” to me.
At the minor league Toby Hyde has a nice write up rebuffing all of Minaya’s different attempts at justifying this trade. Good detail regarding the defensive claims, and real value of these two players.
http://www.metsminorleagueblog.com/2009/07/11/church-for-francouer-wtf/#comments
Vorp, Warp, Snorf and Snafu are all great stats for fantasy baseball junkies. It does not take a genius or mathematician to know that Francouer HAS to improve his selectivity and be willing to take walks in order to improve his all around game.
The defensive stat metrics are so flawed and do NOT take into account so many real life nuisances of how the game is played who pitches against what hitter and how a team positions players let alone the fact that on one of Francouers most key values, his arm, teams absolutely no longer run on it.
His offensive game is flawed but other players with as much or less physical talent as Francouer were able to figure it out.
I’d rather take the dice roll on trying to work with a 25 year old like Francouer vs. the 30 year old enigma that can’t touch third base.
I love how anti-stat people don’t care about whether what they’re saying is true. VORP and WARP actually are basically useless for fantasy purposes. Their actual purpose is to analyze how useful players are to their REAL teams.
I am not anti stats, I am just not stats obsessed, I dont need to get to VORP and WARF and hyperdrive six two one eight to know that Francouer has things he needs to turn around in his game to be a better player.
IT DOES NOT take much of a look beyond improving his OBP which consequently should improve his SLG, and surprise his productivity will be up.
These spreadsheet stats are designed to over accentuate the obvious, which is why fantasy baseball junkies LOVE THEM, they love to overstate the obvious.
Whether Francouer can in fact change his game around, remains to be seen, other players have done it, and they nor the coaches and scouts discussed how to VORP and WARP themselves into shape.
I am sorry but as minor as this trade is in the history of the Mets it really shows why they are a loser organization. A hard working player that did EVERYTHING the team asked and produced with moderate results is traded for a guy that has done NOTHING. Lets not BS a BS’er. The Mets have not liked Ryan Church or Schneider from the day they were brought to town. Why is that? All you can ask of someone is to give it their all. I believe both players have. I have not always liked the results but I do know they play hard. I can’t say that for everyone in that dugout and if you ask me with the rumors of Bernazrd recently, I am sure the latin connection is coming up again. Church always seemed like a guy that wanted to say something but didn’t because he was afraid of rocking the boat. I see similar traits in Wright. LoDuca had no problem speaking his mind and where is he now.
I consider the Braves organization to be one of the best in baseball. I would kill to have Bobby Cox as our manager. If he tired of Francoeur then what does that say for what we just traded for. To me this sounds like an NBA trade. The Mets will get a guy and have the option not to tender him a contract so they basically wash their hands of either player for next year.
The only way this trade works is if Minaya has had conversations with other teams for a package. If Church was the problem getting done but Francoeur would suffice then fine. But I doubt that this is the case.
What really pi**es me off is that even though David lennon thinks their will be an organizational review at years end, Minaya will keep his job due to the numerous injuries. Well if he did his job and stocked the farm which he promised to do when he took the job, we would be in better shape. So we will have this crappy team culture next year as well.
We need new blood at the top, especially if players like Reyes, Wright and Beltran are going to be surrounded by players going forward or if we are going to trade one in the off-season. Why is it that Minaya gets a pass? He has been here long enough with well over 100 million to play with. The results and depth should be better.
I feel happy for Church because even though he is going to a team that won’t make the playoffs he will be treated like a pro under Bobby Cox. Our circus continues.
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