Valid point about needing to add excitement to this team, and to energize the fans. So if you’re excited by this guy, cool. I’ll admit I’m at least curious, and it made watching tonight’s game more interesting.

Invalid point about “b.s. stats”. Because they’re not b.s. at all, if you care about measuring a player’s real production vs. what you think you see. If you don’t care, and just want excitement, that’s totally fine. But then please don’t use other, less sophisticated stats to try and prove worth…just say “dammit, he’s exciting, and that’s enough for me!” Nothing wring with that.

Also, nice win tonight.

Also, Francouer is a passionate guy, “fired up” to come to NY. Church was a (one-time) racist who (whether you like Francesa or not) was rumored to hate it here. And let’s face it, he was just another boring member of this team. For that alone, it could be the spark they need.

You have to be an epically bad hitter to have a .282 OBP. It means you have little ability to identify pitch type and location and often swing at the first pitch seen. It means your not very good.

Only 10 players in MLB this year have a worse OPB. 2 of them are currently in AAA. This isn’t a bad trade because Ryan Church is a great loss. This is a bad trade because “Frenchy” is a bad player that makes your team worse by being on it.

The fact that Church may not have played full seasons may have more to do with his managers than his ability or willingness. Not his fault.

As pedros rooster pointed out, Francoeur’s availability to play a full season is not necessarily a plus if he’s going to remain a below average offensive and defensive player.

As for RISP, again, the larger sample size says they are both about equal in those situations. I take this year’s figures with a grain of salt since the depleted Mets lineup puts added pressures on all the players. I bet that by the end of the year, the RISP numbers will at least be about equal, and Church will maintain his advantage in overall offense and defense. I hope I am wrong, obviously, as the Mets need Francoeur to produce.

So everyone relax about this move and cheer on our new addition cause I think we can all agree we needed to start changing things with this team…Church was part of the team that collapsed in 2007 and 2008… He was NO help down the stretch both seasons and didnt live up to expectations….

So please stop with the BS stats and lets go by what we’ve seen the last 2.5 seasons cause any change from those teams is a good change as far as I’m concerned.

He was the Royals regular SS from 2003-2006 declining each year after winning ROY.

This year he was one of the Yankees fill in 3B and back up IF’s, but he’s spent most of the last three years in AAA.

And no one could foresee a concussion on a play like that. Concussions for position players other than catchers are very rare. You’d rather a player hustle than not.