Comments on: Note: Be Careful

By: MookieRules

MookieRules — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:05:02 +0000

Oh, good. I’m glad Johan Santana’s health is in the safe and caring hands of the Phillies’ pitching coach.

By: wnymetsfan

wnymetsfan — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:08:28 +0000

Exactly mets5rocks. If they did not want him to pitch under any circumstances they would have pulled a WBC and pulled him. Fact of the matter is plenty of teams do this and have done this before and even said I do not want him used at all. The Mets simply asked that if possible do not use him because of the workload on Saturday. One or two guys are always held out in case of extra innings. They just mentioned they would prefer Santana to be one of them.

Also throwing a side session in the pen and pitching in a game are two different animals. I would also point out that home field for the winning league is pointless anyway since the AL has won for the last decade yet the NL has won more than their share of WS titles.

By: wnymetsfan

wnymetsfan — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:03:16 +0000

Also the chances of him actually being 21 are slim and none. Gammons even reported he saw a card for the guy that said he was 26. At that age and without secondary pitches it is a very risky chance. You also do not have the luxury of waiting a few years to see if he can develop the secondary stuff due to the fact his real age is definitely above what has been stated

By: Mets5rocks

Mets5rocks — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:45:58 +0000

I’m sure he fine, he’s looked good the last couple of times out. I don’t know what the big deal is anyway, it’s Santana’s bullpen day anyhow. I know the Mets want him to rest but 1 inning is not going to make his arm fall off. That said I think the media is making this out to be bigger than it is. If the Mets were really concerned about their Ace they would have strongly suggested to Santana that he skip the all-star game which to my knowledge the team has not done.

By: Mets5rocks

Mets5rocks — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:38:55 +0000

right you are.

By: KD

KD — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:34:36 +0000

That’s nice of the pitching coach of our big division rival. Now they’re gonna pitch Lincecum for an inning and then push Santana to 8 so they can try and run the best rival pitcher out of action.

Obviously, I’m joking. But really, if he’s an all-star, he should be able to hand an inning of play. Otherwise, he’s hurt and the Mets aren’t saying something, and knowing our cracked medical staff, I wouldn’t be that surprised.

By: BullpenHelp

BullpenHelp — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:23:55 +0000

Well, apparently our coaches don’t believe home field advantage in the WS is a factor for the Mets otherwise they’d absolutely want one of the best pitchers in the game to throw in the All-Star game.

This is so monumentally stupid that I hardly know what to write.

What message are you sending your own player that you’re publically asking for him to be babied.

Wasn’t it previously reported that this was Santana’s off day to throw anyway so tossing an inning in the All-Star game would be just fine?

Stupid.

By: thedude

thedude — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:13:28 +0000

This is all true.

The other thing is this guy is considered a complete headcase. If he’s a stud like Carlos Zambrano, I can live with that. But if he’s not, that’s another problem.

I’d just rather they allocate those resources toward drafting really aggressively — taking chances on guys in the middle rounds and offering them first-round money. You’re only talking about offering those players a few extra million, so that’s 10 million or so versus whatever it would take for Chapman

By: mark4212

mark4212 — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:13:11 +0000

While i do agree with you there is no guarantee. Dice-K has been ok, Contraeras was very good for a long time, El-Douque was good until he was 70 pitching for the mets, even Livan had a very good long career.

It’s the same chance you take drafting a guy. The thing is when they hit like david price, tommy hanson et el your like oh he was a top prospect, when they miss like Drew Henson and the like you get your WHAT A WASTE…. but you have to take the chance.

My take on everything i’ve read on this kid is there is no guarantee… he’s got a 100MPH fastball, but his secondary pitches aren’t great yet. if he develops one Plus secondary pitch he’s a great closer… a Plus secondary pitch and one or 2 other call them OK pitches and he’s a Legit Top Line starter.

Always baring the dreaded injury bug.

By: thedude

thedude — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:54:43 +0000

We’ll see. Like pretty much everyone here, I know nothing about him. I’m skeptical about high-priced imports in general who almost always seem less than advertised.

I’d be wary of committing so much money to this guy, especially if it means less money for MLB talent.