Omar Minaya held a conference call today to update reporters on the Mets’ injuries.
…update, 3:07 p.m…
Minaya confirmed that the Mets will activate Angel Berroa.
…update, 3:10 p.m…
Jose Reyes had “a good day today” in Port St. Lucie and is “showing much improvement” according to Minaya. Carlos Delgado is swinging the bat and fielding in Port St. Lucie and the Mets received a positive report on him.
An MRI on Carlos Beltran over the All-Star Break revealed the same bone bruise, but he is not yet running or hitting off a tee.
Fernando Martinez had an operation on torn cartilage in his knee two days ago, and Minaya does not expect him to return until September.
Minaya believes that John Maine could be pitching in game situations in a week to 10 days.
…update, 3:15 p.m…
Maine threw in “a simulated session” today and felt fine.
…update, 3:20 p.m…
Minaya said there’s a possibility that Maine and Reyes can return this month. He said for certain that Delgado will not return this month, and that Beltran’s status is unclear.
…update, 3:22 p.m…
A reporter asked Minaya if today’s reports affected his approach to the trade deadline, but I’m not certain what Minaya meant by his response. He definitely mentioned that he had a plan, and that he spoke to five or six other GMs today, and that there has been more activity on the trade market as the deadline approaches.
…update, 3:35 p.m…
OK, the call is over and this is what I’ve got: The Mets got good news on Reyes, but he still needs to work on his acceleration and so is not ready yet. Delgado is progressing but is still a ways off. Beltran feels better, but he’s only doing pool work and riding a stationary bike, so he’s basically status quo.
Martinez had surgery and will need physical therapy and rehab before returning to the club. Maine could be making rehab starts within the next two weeks.
There was lots of information and, as with all injury reports, a lot of it was vague. The one thing that’s certain is Angel Berroa is now on the team.
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The Mets have traded for Roy Halladay & Matt Holliday for Luis Castillo and a PTBNL!
that would be a nice announcement at the press conference.
one can dream…
Both were of course immediately placed on the DL w. season ending injuries.
fmart had surgery…really…that dude is a walking body cast
Shame about FMart…Kid can’t catch a break. Wonder if he screwed up his knee on that excellent belly-flop of his in Milwaukee.
What exactly is a bone bruise in the knee area? And I never knew a bruise could last over a month.
At least nothing is torn…which I’m assuming they would be aware of through an MRI, but nothing would surprise me.
You can break a bone and it would heal faster than this thing is taking…they are being ridiculous with this injury. what the heck is it, because it certainly is no bone bruise, and if it truly is, he has had a month to let it rest, if it hasn’t healed yet, its not going to…rub some dirt on it and play on the damn thing
Exactly, Beltran gets paid good money to suck it up and play with a bruise. I’m sure whatever it is, he can play through it for 2 months and then get surgery.
As usual Nancy Beltran with his $20 million is sitting home on vacation, probably working on baby # 2 while collecting pay for not doing his job.
Your comment is just stupid, as playing injured is exactly what Beltran did for about a month which then landed us here.
My comment is far from stupid but you are entitled to your opinion, i was just calling it as i see it. I never said he didn’t play through pain, I just meant that he is most likely milking this at least a little. Unless permanent damage will occur, suck it up and play.
He played while he could manage the pain and still produce. Would you rather him dragging himself through the OF unable to make plays and not producing at the plate?
Obviously, if his production were suffering that’s one thing, but i guess i’m just frustrated that it always seems that he is day to day with stuff constantly.
Not his fault, i just think he’s being mismanaged, like a lot of them are, but he does have a soft reputation and with what we see a lot of times, its very easy to buy into that theory, fair or not.
I didn’t mean to be as harsh as I was in my original comment, but the “Beltran is soft” crap just pisses me off a lot. Baseball is obviously not a contact sport, but stealing bases, sliding/diving in the OF, etc. leaves you nicked and bruised up. And when you play ~150 per year, there isn’t a lot of time to heal up.
(God help me I’m about to cite Joe Morgan)
Joe Morgan once said that once the season began you never feel 100%. It’s hard to be fully healthy, play everyday, and produce at the level Beltran does…
Yes agreed, it is very hard to produce at a level of a Beltran, Delgado or Wright when you know they are bruised and dinged up from hitting, running and catching the way they do, but fans do tend to be cynical.
I was not intending to be harsh with Beltran, i feel for him, i do, but with everything else going on this year with injuries and the amount of money on the DL, you want to hear progress on your players and to get “his status is unclear” is very unnerving.
I 100% agree. I place the blame on the FO for jerking us (the fans) around with poor communication and the trainers for….well…we all know why…
His soft reputation is what forced him to play every single day since he felt the injury in mid April as he has been quoted as saying. He played near every day for almost 2 months with a bad bruise and pain in his knee.
Had he been soft and taken the 2 weeks off earlier we might not be in this position. That is what people who call baseball players soft don’t realize. This isn’t football. It isn’t Gut it out for 4 hours once a week. It’s gut it out every day.
This is what has lead us to the situation he is in.
Oh and to let you know what a bone bruise is, i simply googled it and got the following:
A bone bruise is an injury to a bone caused by a sudden jerk or fall, which harms the bone but does not fracture it. Bone bruises are visible in high-density MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging), but not simple X-rays. Depending on their severity, bone bruises can take months to heal. You need to treat a bone bruise with proper care and patience.
so him not progressing in 2 weeks isn’t shocking.
Yes, no doubt his soft reputation caused him to play when he should not have, not questioning that in the least.
A bone bruise does take a long time to heal and with his history of knee problems, it will only take longer to heal, i get that, didn’t mean to cause a big stir, just very frustrated with all these injuries.
And we all are, but what did you think saying, “As usual Nancy Beltran with his $20 million is sitting home on vacation,” was going to do exactly =P
Wlaadair,
We are all frustrated… And i think the mets take too many chances with injuries, and Baseball players try to get away from their “Nancy” denomination, by playing through some they shouldn’t. I know football players play with broken legs, ribs, Sports Hernia’s. But it’s a different sport, with one game a week. Playing with a bad knee in baseball is harder for a week then playing through a 6 days of rest and one game.
The Mets should take a way more cautious approach. If say Beltran says my knee is sore, take the MRI shows a small bone bruise, put him on the 15 day DL, let him heal up. Seriously as mad as it would make me i’d rather him sit 15 games then sit 4 play 4 then go on the 15 day DL.
That’s what i think the Mets do Horribly. Just rest him and let him heal. Missing 12-13 games is annoying but it’s better then 20-30. Take a forceful approach. Tell the fans he has a Minor Bone Bruise, he’ll need 6 or 7 days to heal. We will 100% understand. It’s better to have him HEAL then to have him play through it.
I still think his first year here he Gutted through so many injuries and that’s why he played so bad.
Yeah, that Beltran, what a softie!
2005: 151 games – he had to take two weeks off after running his face into Mike Cameron’s. What a wimp!
2006: 140
2007: 144
2008: 161
Man, that dude is SOFT. I mean, does he even really need to use his knees when you think about it?
Its not about being soft its about at least putting up the appearance that you are working on getting yourself back into the lineup.
If he needs rest and rehab so be it, but if its just a waiting game between MRI’s, that’s ridiculous.
The real problem here is the Mets doctors, which never fail to misdiagnose/treat injuries.
All Beltran should be doing is what he’s told by the training staff.
what are you trying to mean, of course he needs to rest and rehab, the injury is still there
Beltran has a batting cage in his home which he uses everyday except Christmas. I am 100% positive that if he had the ability to play, he would be out there playing. Even when his knees were bothering him in May, he “sucked it up” as you said and continued to play because the team needed him. If he’s on the DL, it’s because he was told to go on it, not because he wanted to.
Beltran has a chronic knee problem and I’m sure there’s more to this “bone bruise” than the Mets are telling the fans. It’s not Beltran’s fault that the Mets are being coy about his condition.
I realize that, its just another case of the Mets and their medical staff giving advice to their players and not keeping the fans fully informed.
When we’re not fully informed for whatever reason, we do have no choice but to speculate and criticize, its what we do best.
read your response and tell me that you really believe what you wrote makes any sense
ok, guilty, maybe i babbled a bit i just meant that the Mets medical staff has not exactly been reputable as far as treatment and information.
If you keep players out of the lineup or on the DL for extended periods of time without giving clear concise information to the fans, they are left to their own devices to figure out what the player’s status is, make sense now?
Well, you finally made a post today that I can agree with.
Xavier, I can’t agree more! Does anyone even watch baseball anymore? Or do they just look at the record and say the same canned response?
Look at the swings from years ago. Lots of moving parts, lots of motion, and lots of muscle. These days, it is a science. The heads don’t move and the swing is mechanical, but fluid. If anything isn’t working, it throws the entire swing off. Look at Beltran’s power numbers from the month that he played with the injury. He had almost no power. And almost no steals. And had some of his worst throws of his career. It makes no sense when you are “injured” instead of “hurt” to “rub dirt on it”
I can sympathize. St. Patricks Day 2008, I fell (dont ask how) and landed on my knee and to make a long story short, here I am 16 months later, and I still have a gigantic bruise on my knee that wont go away no matter how much PT. Multiple MRIs have shown no ligament damage. Yet it continuously feels weak and I cant put any pressure on it (like kneeling on it). Docs now think its a nerve thing. Fact is, we dont know what is going on with him or his knee. Bruises CAN last that long, if that is what it is. My concern is it could be something that just WONT heal.
Time to see what’s going on with Michael Jackson’s oxygen chamber. I’m thinking Beltran needs some pure O2 to help with the healing.
not for nothing, but the stupid part was to call this a “bruise” and not realize that a bone bruise can take months to heal. Months. And if you don’t let it heal the bone can break. That nearly happened (Beltran went to an outside Dr to make sure), but the bone bruise doubled in size when he played on it.
Could he be more vague about Reyes and Beltran?
What does a “very good day” and “much improvement” mean? He can run, can he run the bases? If so, when is he going to play in a game.
And with Beltran, OBVIOUSLY hes not running or hitting off the tee if its the same bone bruise, but is it getting better? When do you think hell be able to run?
Im satisfied with the Delgado and Maine updates and wont complain about that
Fernando is another injury that originally needed a couple days of rest to heal. Weird how that always seems to turn into 2 or 3 months.
I’m trying to get excited for the 2nd half and find myself looking forward to tonight’s game…but there is no way this team can play better than .500 until (if ever) they get healthy. They are one bad week away from being 10 games out and the season being over…I just find it hard to believe that too much time can go by before that bad week happens.
I have faith that guys like Ollie, Franceour and Angel Pagan will be enough new blood to help us win series against the bad teams we will face until August 1, when hopefully everyone is back.
If we get Reyes and Delgado only at that point we can still go on a run
to say tonight is the biggest game of the season for the psyche of this team is an understatement. We need Ollie to step it up and get the momentum in the right direction
adam rubin had a detailed post on his blog about it…reyes isnt on the basepaths yet but looks like they hope he can get on them soon
That would be encouraging to see Reyes on the basepaths and Delgado swinging the bat, its progress, light at the end of the tunnel.
Beltran, so done with him, call him Team MVP, whatever you want, he is not there for his team when they need him most.
Wright’s had his struggles both physically and mentally but at least he’s battling and would be downright insulted at the thought of going on DL with anything less than a broken limb or hamstring tear.
Relax wlaadair…Wright has been lucky he hasn’t gotten hurt. The same way all the core players were lucky last year.
We’re all lucky that Wright has escaped the injury bug even though he has dealt with a bunch of little things but nothing that has kept him out of the lineup.
hmmm, uh?
Does this sound at all familiar? From Mets website on 6/25 about the 11-0 game the night before against St Louis
NEW YORK — Late in the seventh inning Wednesday night, Mets general manager Omar Minaya called the dugout to inquire about the condition of David Wright. Minaya had noticed Wright take an awkward, perhaps compromised, step when he crossed first base on an infield hit and saw his third baseman downshift as he approached third base on an ensuing double. In this Mets season of pulls and pains and tears and strains, it only was proper for Minaya to cross his fingers, dial the trainer and hold his breath.
An hour later, after the Mets had thoroughly steamrolled the Cardinals, Wright himself responded to other inquiries about his body. He promised to be in the lineup Thursday afternoon when the Mets and Cardinals engage each other for the fourth time in four days, which of course didn’t answer the question of “Did you hurt your leg?”
Now do you believe me? geez
AGAIN, Wright hasn’t gotten hurt enough to go to the DL. You make it sound like he’s tough. He is not tough, he is been healthy.
As soon as he gets hurt enough so that he can’t play believe me, he will be headed to the DL in a sec.
Lets just agree to disagree on this point, i’ve said all i’m going to say and i’m entitled to my opinion just like everyone else does.
You are absolutely entilted to your opinion, sir, and I am entitled to mine…which is that your posts today abour Beltran are silly, incorrect and unfair to a guy who has missed very very little time despite playing with an injury and playing a position that reqquires him to run and coverplenty of ground.
Carlos Beltran played for the New York Mets with his freaking FACE BROKEN during the end of 2005, do not tell me of some mythical world where David Wright “fights” going on the DL.
In addition in 2007 Beltran played the final 6 weeks with two bad knees.
I remember that well and yes, he has and should be given full props for that one, geez, what a federal case. sorry for saying anything in the first place, last i checked it was a free country.
your entitled to your opinion, but saying Beltran isnt there for his team, thats just ridiculous. Its mind-boggling to as-sume he is purposely not playing for us. With your logic, you should say that for everyone on the DL.
Exactly! and to say that Wright gets hurt but still plays is silly.
I never said it was on purpose and yes the guys on the DL are letting their team down, i know they are injured but are getting paid good money, and its going to waste, all i’m saying.
I was thinking about that catch the other day and it still gives me the shivers. Ugh, painful to watch.
…Beltran is turning into Mo Vaughn. At least at the knees. At 2 more years for 18.5 mil per this is verging on complete disaster.
2004-05 might go down as one of the worst offseasons in team history.
Do you think out loud before typing, or just go to it? Honestly even in trying to be semi humorous, you are taking one significant injury and turning it into a disaster for the next two seasons?
If Beltran was a hard headed catcher who did not want to move positions I would agree.
yup, one signing that has put the team behind in the pitching side for the past three years and on that is looking like a noose to the payroll for the next two. What a wonderful off season it was… At least they won it all in 2006… oh, right…
At least now there is micro-fracture surgery, but the way this is going with Beltran I can’t expect him to be on the field much this year or next. Or contribute at typical all star level when he can get on the field.
Exactly, say what you will about Beltran playing through the pain before October of 2006, since he looked at strike 3 from Wainwright the target’s been on his back and he has to work to shake it off.
I’m sorry you feel that way. Because whenever Beltran leaves, I will remember him as being one of the best CFs in this league and he was a Met. And without him, we never wouldve seen that pitch from Wainwright.
I understand all that, but we were in the stadium for that game and the atmosphere cannot even be explained except for numb and shock.
yea I can’t imagine the stadium. I was there for game 6 and that was probably the best game I had ever been to mainly because of the atmosphere and feeling in the stadium. Reyes leads off with a HR in a do-or-die game!…the place was electric the entire game.
That called 3 strike on Beltran…man, I thought they were gonna do it. It was the bottom of the 8th where they needed to though. basesloaded one out…and no runs score, com’n. Endy, fresh off THE catch, with basesloaded and 2 outs! You couldnt make that up, I thought he was going to come through.
so did I, so sorry for coming off harsh against him and i know we have to let these things go especially when it has to do with injury related absences, but its beyond frustrating for everyone watching these guys and hearing how much longer they will be out if that info is even given.
It’s def been one of the worst seasons ever. It’s not like we came into the season like WASH, knowing we were going to suck. We had high expectations, and rightly so, and to see this number of players at their caliber on the DL, its extremely frustrating. But, I gotta stay hopeful. There’s 2 ways to make it to October and 77 games left. Cliche as it is, ya just never know.
I am so happy that “NY has the most intelligent fans”. Carlos Beltran is a “disaster”, but Manny at all costs would have saved us. Do you realize how ridiculous you all sound? We didn’t win the World Series in 2006! Boo hoo. You are starting to sound like Yankee fans. Forget starting. You are all Yankee Fans in Mets t-shirts. There are 29 teams every year who don’t win the World Series. We are not entitled to anything except 162 games a season. More is better. More would be great. You people clearly don’t remember Hubie Brooks and Mookie Wilson (the Mook who played on the team when they were brutal but hustled and that is why we loved him, not for a squib grounder that he got insanely lucky on) and Felix Milan and Joel Youngblood. Winning isn’t guarenteed. There is another team, every night with professional hitters and prideful pitchers trying to win. Give it a rest. Beltran is one of the best players the Mets will EVER have and we are LUCKY to have him. Hope he gets better. Hope they all get better so we can watch some better baseball
lol…wow.
Having the best CF in the league for the past 5 years and for the next 2.
Singing a future hall of fame pitcher fresh off a WS win so we can bring respecitiblity to the team AND to help our negotiations with Beltran, not to mention the countless other latin signees we were ABLE to persuade BECAUSE of this players significance in the D.R. (I’ll name two, FMart who at 20 years old is still our top prospect, and Deolis Guerra, who just so happened to help us net another future hall of fame pitcher this time still in his prime)
Future attention at Beltran’s knees should be considered, no question, but please save yourself some respectability and think before you say things like 2005 being our worst off-season.
Come on man. Don’t buy into the Mets party line (or should I say lie) that Pedro did anything to help with Beltran.
Beltran offered to take 20 million less to go to Yankees. When have you ever heard any player, let alone a Boras client, do that? Pedro was useless there.
And who cares if Pedro was a HOFer or past WS champ? How does that help the Mets?
As a fan, I LOVED watching Pedro for the first year and a half. But the GM isn’t supposed to watch baseball like a fan. He’s supposed to make calculated judgments about a player’s ability over the length of a contract. Minaya was like a giddy schoolgirl with Pedro and that forced him to give him 4 years.
Your reaction to Pedro was a huge factor though. We needed an attraction, we needed someone who could bring fans to the park. As a baseball decision, they knew it a was risk going to 4 years, no question. But they also knew that they needed him badly for this organization. And as an organization decision, Pedro was a huge success.
They expected more out of his late 2006 and 2007 self. 2008, I doubt they expected much to be honest. By then, they probably hoped they wouldnt need him to be a #1 pitcher (they already have gotten others by then).
Pedro was a bridge. He helped transition this team from a joke to a contender.
Amen Starz
Wow..verging on a complete disaster? What are you talking about? Do you have any perspective at all here? To me, your post verges on complete insanity. No, never mind it doesn’t verge on it…your post is already there.
Also, I’m not believing anything they say about Reyes until I see him playing.
Remember when Jerry said “definitely” for that Phillies series? What was that, over a month ago?
Jerry says a lot of things…
lol…we have now learned whatever Jerry says, it means the opposite. And he has proven that.
My daughter had a bad bone bruise in her upper arm/shoulder area. Took a long time to heal, and a lot of PT>
I think it would have been quicker to have had a break, put it in a cast, and have it heal.
Just forget Beltran for this year. Get him as close to 100% for next year as possible.
And the F Mar tinjury should mean they have to find another OF for next year. No way can you even dream of him winning a job out of the gate.
pencil F Mart into AAa and see if he can get the 300+ ABs he needs to try and get into some kind of groove.
If I ever see another Met play in the World Baseball Classic im going to vomit. Is it coincidence that the team with the most participants also have the most injuries?
You know, I have thought about that too. But it’s weird. The D.R. got dropped in the first round, so can we pin Reyes’ struggles there? Possibly, if it meant he had to train harder earlier to be ready. But they didnt play many games, and he barely played in those games anyways.
Krod hasnt suffered.
Putz, good argument there.
Delgado, don’t know, his injury is more career-related than anything short-term.
I’d have to say it’d be about them training harder earlier if anything.
don’t even get me started on the WBC, all I will say is that Delgado, Putz, Beltran and Reyes all played fine for their countries for 3 weeks in March.
I think the biggest loser on the WBC side was Perez, hopefully he can put that mess behind him with a big start tonight. Been a while since the Mets have had a big game, tonight is going to be huge.
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