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		<title>By: Chiefman</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/18/opinion-time-not-on-mets-side/#comment-583071</link>
		<dc:creator>Chiefman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t the risk of sounding disloyal --which I ain&#039;t-- I don&#039;t see any way we can avoid a finish higher than fourth place. The primary reason is of course the injuries. But we do have numerous other problems: terrible starting pitching, very sloppy and at times shockingly bad defense, repeatedly bad baserunning and an undependable bullpen that started out great but has begun to cave under the weight of overwork due to poor SP.

And of course we do have a clown for a manager, probably the worst training/medical staff in the game and a questionable --to be generous-- GM. 

So let&#039;s not just assume this all because of injuries...which I&#039;m afraid the clueless Wilpon clan will do. 

We need a serious overhaul after this season...new GM, new manager, new medical people, some change on this roster. I just don&#039;t see the owners stepping up to all that because it requires them to admit they made mistakes hiring and retaining Jerry, Omar, Bernazard and the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t the risk of sounding disloyal &#8211;which I ain&#8217;t&#8211; I don&#8217;t see any way we can avoid a finish higher than fourth place. The primary reason is of course the injuries. But we do have numerous other problems: terrible starting pitching, very sloppy and at times shockingly bad defense, repeatedly bad baserunning and an undependable bullpen that started out great but has begun to cave under the weight of overwork due to poor SP.</p>
<p>And of course we do have a clown for a manager, probably the worst training/medical staff in the game and a questionable &#8211;to be generous&#8211; GM. </p>
<p>So let&#8217;s not just assume this all because of injuries&#8230;which I&#8217;m afraid the clueless Wilpon clan will do. </p>
<p>We need a serious overhaul after this season&#8230;new GM, new manager, new medical people, some change on this roster. I just don&#8217;t see the owners stepping up to all that because it requires them to admit they made mistakes hiring and retaining Jerry, Omar, Bernazard and the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: wright5murph28</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont think many people will think your nuts, i think alot of people feel the same way...if Halladay is available this offseason and hasnt been traded yet...a package of Reyes, Fmart and another prospect could prob get you Halladay and have the best 1-2 hands down in baseball(tho lincecum/cain are not far behind)...

I personally would have no problem trading reyes and fmart as long as halladay can be signed to an extension much like the johan deal....beltran is too valuable to trade...a CFer that is as good as him doesnt come around very often...he literally can do it all....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont think many people will think your nuts, i think alot of people feel the same way&#8230;if Halladay is available this offseason and hasnt been traded yet&#8230;a package of Reyes, Fmart and another prospect could prob get you Halladay and have the best 1-2 hands down in baseball(tho lincecum/cain are not far behind)&#8230;</p>
<p>I personally would have no problem trading reyes and fmart as long as halladay can be signed to an extension much like the johan deal&#8230;.beltran is too valuable to trade&#8230;a CFer that is as good as him doesnt come around very often&#8230;he literally can do it all&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckC</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChuckC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to turn this franchise around? Start with getting rid of Omar and Jerry The Clown. 

Then put everyone on the market...And I mean everyone. 

Reyes is on the top of my list of trade bait for Holliday. He will always have leg issues and his legs are his game. A speedy, slap hitter, with bad legs is easy to replace. A pitcher like Holiday does not come around very often. 

OK now everyone tell me Im nuts.,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to turn this franchise around? Start with getting rid of Omar and Jerry The Clown. </p>
<p>Then put everyone on the market&#8230;And I mean everyone. </p>
<p>Reyes is on the top of my list of trade bait for Holliday. He will always have leg issues and his legs are his game. A speedy, slap hitter, with bad legs is easy to replace. A pitcher like Holiday does not come around very often. </p>
<p>OK now everyone tell me Im nuts.,</p>
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		<title>By: METSCITI</title>
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		<dc:creator>METSCITI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m usually as positive and &quot;Ya Gotta Believe&quot; as possible, but the numbers do not look good at all....
We are currently 42-47.  The division winner will need at least 88 wins in my opinion, with the same number coming from the wild card as well.
46-27 the rest of the way just to get to 88 wins.  If the number is 90 wins then we need to go 48-25 the rest of the way.
This would be possible if the Mets were healthy, but we are still at least another 13 games away from the possibility of one player coming back.  The team needs to go at least 7-6 in the next 13 games to even have a remote chance of making a August run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m usually as positive and &#8220;Ya Gotta Believe&#8221; as possible, but the numbers do not look good at all&#8230;.<br />
We are currently 42-47.  The division winner will need at least 88 wins in my opinion, with the same number coming from the wild card as well.<br />
46-27 the rest of the way just to get to 88 wins.  If the number is 90 wins then we need to go 48-25 the rest of the way.<br />
This would be possible if the Mets were healthy, but we are still at least another 13 games away from the possibility of one player coming back.  The team needs to go at least 7-6 in the next 13 games to even have a remote chance of making a August run.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckC</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree rather collapse again then be out in July. 

Just an awful performance by the players, coaches, GM, ownership... all around gross. 

Yes, we still have a chance but i see nothing from this team thats gives me ANY hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree rather collapse again then be out in July. </p>
<p>Just an awful performance by the players, coaches, GM, ownership&#8230; all around gross. </p>
<p>Yes, we still have a chance but i see nothing from this team thats gives me ANY hope.</p>
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		<title>By: ctmetsfan17</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the thing that troubles me about the Mets... we all know they are missing a bunch of guys and right now they are loosing.  That is going to happen in baseball.  But what scares me about the Mets is there is really no light at the end of the tunnel.  The Mets weren&#039;t a lock to win the division even with the core healthy.  They still were struggling.  So when they all come back its hard to assume that they really can make a run.  The second thing is that the Mets really have no tradable talent on this team (assuming you wont trade Wright, Santana, or K-rod).  If they aren&#039;t going to turn things around this would be a great time to unload some large contracts for some prospects.  The Mets really don&#039;t have anyone that would help a team in playoff contention except maybe some middle relievers or J. Reed to be a back-up outfielder and trading those guys won&#039;t bring back anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing that troubles me about the Mets&#8230; we all know they are missing a bunch of guys and right now they are loosing.  That is going to happen in baseball.  But what scares me about the Mets is there is really no light at the end of the tunnel.  The Mets weren&#8217;t a lock to win the division even with the core healthy.  They still were struggling.  So when they all come back its hard to assume that they really can make a run.  The second thing is that the Mets really have no tradable talent on this team (assuming you wont trade Wright, Santana, or K-rod).  If they aren&#8217;t going to turn things around this would be a great time to unload some large contracts for some prospects.  The Mets really don&#8217;t have anyone that would help a team in playoff contention except maybe some middle relievers or J. Reed to be a back-up outfielder and trading those guys won&#8217;t bring back anything.</p>
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		<title>By: wright5murph28</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea...some fans on here are like &quot;pack it in seasons over blah blah&quot;..but lets be honest...who wants the season to end in july...dont give me that crap that its better then collapsing because id rather have them collapse again then be out of it in july....and if omar made a move for a holliday, people would only be mad if he was a complete failure then left...but if they trade for him and he does walk...they will no doubt offer arb...and the 2 draft picks the mets would get could end up being more major league ready and more legit then some of there top prospects...or u could resign him and finally have an everyday LFer which this team has lacked for i dont know 5 years since floyds good years...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea&#8230;some fans on here are like &#8220;pack it in seasons over blah blah&#8221;..but lets be honest&#8230;who wants the season to end in july&#8230;dont give me that crap that its better then collapsing because id rather have them collapse again then be out of it in july&#8230;.and if omar made a move for a holliday, people would only be mad if he was a complete failure then left&#8230;but if they trade for him and he does walk&#8230;they will no doubt offer arb&#8230;and the 2 draft picks the mets would get could end up being more major league ready and more legit then some of there top prospects&#8230;or u could resign him and finally have an everyday LFer which this team has lacked for i dont know 5 years since floyds good years&#8230;</p>
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