Comments on: Note: Santana after July http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dwright5_godsend http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583204 dwright5_godsend Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:55:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583204 My two cents: 1) Yes, Pelfrey will come back strong. I think he is either putting too much pressure on himself or his arm is just tired because of the Verducci Effect. It just doesn't make sense to me that a guy who threw upper 90s consistently in college and in the minors all of a sudden sits around 91-93...he needs to go back to throwing harder and using his curveball. Livan, however, is done...time to call up Niese. 2) Perez has been his old self since returning. I'll chalk his seven-walk performance up to nerves. His last appearance against the Braves wasn't that bad, and with a good offense backing him up, he gets the win. Of course, he isn't pitching as good as a $12MM pitcher should be pitching, but it's what I expected out of him. 3) No, I don't think Maine will ever be effective again. He seems to be hurt all the time and it may be time to either let him go or see what we can get for him. Let's hope he comes back this season and has a few good starts to increase his trade value. We can look to acquire a SP in the off-season, but right now we just need to ride it out. With guys like Holt and Mejia flying through the system, I'd say Maine and Ollie's days are numbered. My projected rotation by September 2010: Santana Pelfrey Perez Niese Holt This season may not be "over," but it's time to rebuild for 2010 and beyond. We need Reyes and Beltran to come back healthy, and if Delgado is a brand new man after this surgery, perhaps sign him to a one-year deal to give us some pop and hold down first base until Ike Davis gets more experience in AA and AAA. My two cents:

1) Yes, Pelfrey will come back strong. I think he is either putting too much pressure on himself or his arm is just tired because of the Verducci Effect. It just doesn’t make sense to me that a guy who threw upper 90s consistently in college and in the minors all of a sudden sits around 91-93…he needs to go back to throwing harder and using his curveball. Livan, however, is done…time to call up Niese.

2) Perez has been his old self since returning. I’ll chalk his seven-walk performance up to nerves. His last appearance against the Braves wasn’t that bad, and with a good offense backing him up, he gets the win. Of course, he isn’t pitching as good as a $12MM pitcher should be pitching, but it’s what I expected out of him.

3) No, I don’t think Maine will ever be effective again. He seems to be hurt all the time and it may be time to either let him go or see what we can get for him. Let’s hope he comes back this season and has a few good starts to increase his trade value. We can look to acquire a SP in the off-season, but right now we just need to ride it out. With guys like Holt and Mejia flying through the system, I’d say Maine and Ollie’s days are numbered.

My projected rotation by September 2010:

Santana
Pelfrey
Perez
Niese
Holt

This season may not be “over,” but it’s time to rebuild for 2010 and beyond. We need Reyes and Beltran to come back healthy, and if Delgado is a brand new man after this surgery, perhaps sign him to a one-year deal to give us some pop and hold down first base until Ike Davis gets more experience in AA and AAA.

]]> By: BullpenHelp http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583199 BullpenHelp Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:10:43 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583199 I've said it after Johan's last start. I simply can't get all that excited when we win a Santana start. We all know he's phenomenal. But even if he wins every start between now and the end of the season, we have NO chance of even sniffing the playoffs unless the rest of this pitching staff begins performing. Are Pelfrey and Livan going to get it together again? Is Perez going to some how figure out how to be effective? Is John Maine ever going to come back healthy? I’ve said it after Johan’s last start. I simply can’t get all that excited when we win a Santana start. We all know he’s phenomenal. But even if he wins every start between now and the end of the season, we have NO chance of even sniffing the playoffs unless the rest of this pitching staff begins performing.

Are Pelfrey and Livan going to get it together again? Is Perez going to some how figure out how to be effective? Is John Maine ever going to come back healthy?

]]> By: MeetTheMatts.com http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583198 MeetTheMatts.com Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:38:20 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583198 UGH. What, no Joe McEwing? UGH. What, no Joe McEwing?

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583197 Mets5rocks Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:48:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583197 Here's the lineup guys! Pagan, cf Castillo, 2b Murphy, 1b Wright, 3b Francoeur, rf Reed, lf Cora, ss Schneider, c Nieve, rhp Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0LjTye70M Here’s the lineup guys!

Pagan, cf
Castillo, 2b
Murphy, 1b
Wright, 3b
Francoeur, rf
Reed, lf
Cora, ss
Schneider, c
Nieve, rhp

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/#ixzz0LjTye70M

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583196 Mets5rocks Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:20:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583196 I wouldn't put it past them! I wouldn’t put it past them!

]]> By: KickedintheMetsiclesAgain http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583195 KickedintheMetsiclesAgain Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:09:04 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583195 Dont laugh..... Knowing the Mets, even if the Mets are 20 games out they will stick it to season ticket holders and make them purchase post-season tickets. That way they get to keep the $$$ for a couple on months. And then delay long enough to offer a refund in hope that the season-ticket holder will let the money roll-over until 2010 at zero interest. Who else thinks this will happen? Dont laugh…..

Knowing the Mets, even if the Mets are 20 games out they will stick it to season ticket holders and make them purchase post-season tickets.

That way they get to keep the $$$ for a couple on months. And then delay long enough to offer a refund in hope that the season-ticket holder will let the money roll-over until 2010 at zero interest.

Who else thinks this will happen?

]]> By: Razor Shines http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583194 Razor Shines Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:08:15 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583194 F-Core is 3-2! Win today and they can be 5 back of the wild card -- only 5 teams in front of them... just saying F-Core is 3-2!

Win today and they can be 5 back of the wild card — only 5 teams in front of them… just saying

]]> By: MeetTheMatts.com http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583188 MeetTheMatts.com Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:49:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583188 Hey.... Mets are 3-2 in their last five... We're ordering playoff tickets. Hey…. Mets are 3-2 in their last five… We’re ordering playoff tickets.

]]> By: Mets5rocks http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583185 Mets5rocks Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:51:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583185 There's always hope! lol There’s always hope! lol

]]> By: Razor Shines http://www.metsblog.com/2009/07/19/note-santana-after-july/#comment-583178 Razor Shines Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:04:24 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=38801#comment-583178 On this date 40 yrs ago, the Mets were only 4 games back. They went a not-so-terrible 10-14 in the next 24 games, but the red-hot Cubs went 16-8, extending the division lead to a seemingly unsurpassable 10 games on August 13, almost a month from now. The Mets won the division by 9 games. I'm just saying. On this date 40 yrs ago, the Mets were only 4 games back. They went a not-so-terrible 10-14 in the next 24 games, but the red-hot Cubs went 16-8, extending the division lead to a seemingly unsurpassable 10 games on August 13, almost a month from now.

The Mets won the division by 9 games.

I’m just saying.

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