From what I can gather out of Cleveland, the Mets and Indians have been in contact.
The Mets are interested in Martinez, but I do not believe any hard offer was ever on the table – though this, again, may just be a matter of semantics.
The thing is, the Red Sox and Rays like Martinez as well.
“The Mets are trying to be creative, because they refuse to trade those top guys,” someone close to the team told me, which I assume means Brad Holt, Fernando Martinez, Jennry Mejia, Ike Davis and Wilmer Flores.
For what it’s worth, I believe the Indians might accept Jon Niese, Flores and Holt for Martinez, but that is an educated guess.
In the end, from what I can tell, the Mets do not feel pressure to make a trade before tomorrow’s 4 pm deadline.
They are confident in their prospects, and they’re also confident they will get Carlos Beltran, Jose Reyes, Carlos Delgado and Billy Wagner back 
during August, which is a lot more than any other team will acquire in trade. Plus, they seem comfortable with what the waiver wire might make available in August.
Basically, having talked with people around the team, I believe the Mets are buyers and are looking for a creative way to get a bat, i.e., the in-season, offense version of last December’s three-way trade that brought on J.J. Putz.
In short, the Mets seem to have no interest in over-paying with top prospects when they are essentially set to acquire four All Stars in August.
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How could we possibly trade Niese considering the state of our rotation this season and next? Also we havent heard from John Maine which I would imagine they will announce somethings wrong with him right after the trade deadline…
Maine has weakness in shoulder, no surgery, just rehab in PSL… see previous post.
Nice – Thanks missed that one
And Matt one last thing…. those 4 all stars were part of the team that collapsed the last two seasons…We need more than just crossing our fingers and hoping that all 4 guys come back healthy and ready to hit immediately.
Dont we??? I could be wrong but thats my feeling I always thought we needed another bat even at the beginning of this season
You’re absolutely right. When these guys come back we’ll be back in tact — which was a second place team.
On top of that, the August waiver wire nonsense was what they fed us last year, when they turned down Brian Fuentes for Heilman and Show.
considering what Shapiro got in his fleecing in scant leather from Philly, this is a joke he should basically accept one prospect of significance for the EXTREMELY overrated Martinez.
Just asking your opinion.. why do you think Martinez is overrated? Take his entire career into account not just his numbers since June.
yea i agree, ive mentioned that in other posts…V-mart is a good player but i cant see omar giving up top prospects for him, and he shouldnt
i posted this in the injury post, but it’s interesting:
i just posted this over on mets blog but it’s really interesting:
So I’m looking around on MLBTR and they link to the current as of July 27th Elias off season rankings http://www.scribd.com/doc/17870577/Rankings-073009. A few Key Mets who you might see leave:
Schneider is currently Type B
Delgado is currently Type B
Sheffeld is currently Type B ( i know)
Billy Wagner TYPE A
Feliciano would be A but he’s not a FA
and one big one is PUTZ is nothing (so you can guarantee his option being picked up)
So the mets could have a bunch of sandwich picks at the end of the first in the compensation round, PLUS a pick when someone signs Wagner.
Just thought that was interesting.
How could Wagner possibly be a type A at the end of this season?
It’s based on the previous 2 years stats, and takes into account all sorts of stats. I guess he would still rank in the top part of the league due to what he had done last year. He could fall i guess, but i don’t see him going all the way past Type B. I was surprised to see him as a Type A also.
why isnt Delgado a type A??? His last two seasons were very good..
Well well if you go from July 30th this year to July 30th in 2007 he hasn’t played much outside last year. So he had one good year really. Putting him way behing a lot of other power hitting first baseman. Remember he got hurt what August 15th ish in 2007?
Thats true… Im just surprised coming off of a 38 home run season..
We might try to resign delgado for a huge pay cut. He still has the power that few other options would have.
No one knows about Wagner. If he isn’t healthy, he’s probably going to retire. If he is healthy, the Mets will buy out his 2010 option (8 mil with 1 mil buyout). I have no clue what the market would be on him, of if the Mets would try to sign him back, but a first round pick is a lot for any team to give up with a question mark as big as Wagner.
Being realistic, the Mets aren’t going to have nearly as many compensation picks as you’d think.
I might revolt if they resign any of the players i listed except pickup the Wagner and Putz options and trade Wagner for prospects (of coarse depending on his health).
I don’t see Schneider, Delgado, Sheffield retiring or the mets resigning them. I think it would be a terrible decision by the front office, but i could see teams signing them. Type B means nothing to another team.
I agree… It’s defintely time to change up the core or bringing in new leaders… Im not talking reyes or wright but the more I think about it Delgado cant come back… I rather have v. martinez and murphy split time at first and santos n martinez split time at catcher…something like that..
No more schneider, no more delgado, no more wagner, the list goes on and on…. I want to completely change the mind set of this team by getting rid of the majority of the guys from the 2007 and 2008 teams… 2006 was the year they all were going to peak together and that failed… lets move on
how is delgado NOT a type A?
3 way deal and everyone is happy…..
Mets Get – Crawford, Kazmir, and LHP from Indians
Rays Get – Martinez and a Mets prospect
Indians Get – Pena and specs from both teams.
Rays and Indians both shed some salary and Pena replace V-Mart at 1B
Sounds great to me :)
wouldnt that be nice.
If anything special is going to happen this year, we gotta have most of those guys coming back close to 100%. If we don’t, no player we buy will catapult us into the playoffs.
I’d rather see us hold on to the prospects and just let this season play out. Next year, with hopefully much less injuries, these prospects will still be in the organization. And the star players that we could acquire next year would surely have a much bigger impact than any acquisition this season.
Sorry to those who want the Mets to go World Series or bust every season. Baseball is way too competitive today for a high market team to mortgage the future and effectively deal with repercussions later on.
No one said world series or bust… How about playoffs or bust???? The Mets have been embarrassing the last two seasons
this is not the right season to go playoffs or bust. Despite this roll we are on right now, I have a hard time betting our chances versus 7 other teams ahead of us just for the wild card.
I dont think we want to see the Mets make a trade for a veteran but you wouldnt want to bring a relatively young veteran with a couple of years left on his contract?? That guy would be part of our future woudnt he be?
You probably haven’t seen Mejia pitch. I want him for the future too.
Based on the majority of past mets prospects I would trade any of them for the right deal. I think you would be ignorant not to if the right deal came along
Pagan just hit a ball that is gone in 99% of Major league ball parks…wow
I cant believe we are getting all these calls…
We won’t for long if we keep saying no. lol
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