Comments on: Newsday: Carlos Beltran is Trying to Find Himself http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601389 stickguy Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:04:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601389 No way should they extend Beltran now. For one thing, I have no faith (and the numbers, other than the roid boys like Bonds, support it) that he will still be as productive at 35 as he is now. That, and who knows if he still has his wheels. Let him put up a strong, helathy 2010, then consider talking in the off season. I personally would let the contract run out, and if he is breaking down (or just declingin) you can walk, or if he is still resaonably productive, offer arbitration and either get 1 more year, or some picks. I do not want to see him locked up for big $$ at ages 35, 36 37. Even better, make sure to have the replacement on hand, ready to step in. Kirk N. could be nicely seasoned by opening day 2012! No way should they extend Beltran now.

For one thing, I have no faith (and the numbers, other than the roid boys like Bonds, support it) that he will still be as productive at 35 as he is now.

That, and who knows if he still has his wheels.

Let him put up a strong, helathy 2010, then consider talking in the off season.

I personally would let the contract run out, and if he is breaking down (or just declingin) you can walk, or if he is still resaonably productive, offer arbitration and either get 1 more year, or some picks. I do not want to see him locked up for big $$ at ages 35, 36 37.

Even better, make sure to have the replacement on hand, ready to step in. Kirk N. could be nicely seasoned by opening day 2012!

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]]> By: wlaadair http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601360 wlaadair Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:28:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601360 Exactly, once he proves he is healthy, then talk about contract extensions, same goes with any player who has missed time like Reyes, Delgado, and Perez. Exactly, once he proves he is healthy, then talk about contract extensions, same goes with any player who has missed time like Reyes, Delgado, and Perez.

]]> By: jamie_ http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601359 jamie_ Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:26:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601359 I feel the same way I feel the same way

]]> By: wlaadair http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601358 wlaadair Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:25:59 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601358 It was far from a bargain for most of this year and if he can't play next year, its less of a bargain, these guaranteed contracts have to go, performance based deals need to have more of a place not just for pitchers. where else can you only work for less than 6 months a year and earn $18.5 million? It was far from a bargain for most of this year and if he can’t play next year, its less of a bargain, these guaranteed contracts have to go, performance based deals need to have more of a place not just for pitchers. where else can you only work for less than 6 months a year and earn $18.5 million?

]]> By: thedude http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601343 thedude Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:22:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601343 I'm sure Brian Schneider would like a 10-million-dollar deal. Doesn't mean it has a prayer of happening. The front office is counting every penny and we're talking about spending more money on Feliciano and Beltran, two players already under our control? I’m sure Brian Schneider would like a 10-million-dollar deal.

Doesn’t mean it has a prayer of happening.

The front office is counting every penny and we’re talking about spending more money on Feliciano and Beltran, two players already under our control?

]]> By: Lorenzo23 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601339 Lorenzo23 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:06:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601339 Old Backstop you stole my thunder... Considering economic conditions and Beltrans physical condition - $18.7 million a season is far from a bargain. Old Backstop you stole my thunder…

Considering economic conditions and Beltrans physical condition – $18.7 million a season is far from a bargain.

]]> By: jesse52782 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601338 jesse52782 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:03:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601338 No way they will extend him this off-season, and frankly Boras wouldn't be too smart to try that....that smart move (for both sides) is to discuss an extension after next year after he proves his health. No way they will extend him this off-season, and frankly Boras wouldn’t be too smart to try that….that smart move (for both sides) is to discuss an extension after next year after he proves his health.

]]> By: ericloz http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601334 ericloz Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:57:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601334 Wow, that's a tough one. I guess the real question is "is a 34 yo Beltran better then what MAY be available in two years, and are we willing to pay for that premium?" On the one hand, if a better CF'er is available, is Beltran willing to move to a corner "a-la Cameron" and is the team willing to spend big bucks getting said player when beltran is getting paid? On the other hand, if this flops and Beltran can't rove the field, will this turn into a "Mo Vaugn" situtation? I would sign him to another extension, w/ options, and a limited no-trade clause in case he turns into a great hit-no field player, in which case we have the option of shipping off to an AL team to DH the rest of his career, or buying him out. Hummm, won't happen, we'll sign him to a 10 year deal @ 19.5 per and have to carry that burden around for 5 of those years. Wow, that’s a tough one. I guess the real question is “is a 34 yo Beltran better then what MAY be available in two years, and are we willing to pay for that premium?”

On the one hand, if a better CF’er is available, is Beltran willing to move to a corner “a-la Cameron” and is the team willing to spend big bucks getting said player when beltran is getting paid?

On the other hand, if this flops and Beltran can’t rove the field, will this turn into a “Mo Vaugn” situtation?

I would sign him to another extension, w/ options, and a limited no-trade clause in case he turns into a great hit-no field player, in which case we have the option of shipping off to an AL team to DH the rest of his career, or buying him out.

Hummm, won’t happen, we’ll sign him to a 10 year deal @ 19.5 per and have to carry that burden around for 5 of those years.

]]> By: Xavier22 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601332 Xavier22 Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:53:21 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/09/16/newsday-carlos-beltran-is-trying-to-find-himself/#comment-601332 Also, regarding A-Rod, I believe he had a clause in his 10 year contract that allowed him to opt-out after 6 years if he chose. Beltran's contract doesn't contain any such clause (as far as I know). Also, regarding A-Rod, I believe he had a clause in his 10 year contract that allowed him to opt-out after 6 years if he chose. Beltran’s contract doesn’t contain any such clause (as far as I know).

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