Pepsi Refresh Pre Game: Mets at Nationals (Game 3)

September 30, 2009 at 14:23 pm · 37 comments

by Matthew Cerrone

Update, 2:45 pm:

Jerry Manuel told reporters Jose Reyes felt discomfort while running yesterday, and will be re-examined today.

Manuel believes the team and Reyes will make a decision regarding surgery as soon as tomorrow, though a team spokesman quickly dismissed that any such timetable exists.

…ugh… get ready to mull over endless talk about why reyes didn’t have surgery months ago, and, because of the delay, how he now might not be ready for Opening Day… again, ugh

To hear more from Manuel, tune in to SNY’s Pre Game Live at 6:30 pm.

Original Post:

The Mets (67-91) face the Nationals (54-103) today at 4:35 pm, for the final time this season, in Washington DC, with Tim Redding (3–6, 5.29 ERA) taking on John Lannan (9–13, 3.93 ERA).

Angel Pagan will hit leadoff for the Mets and start in left field, followed in order by Anderson Hernandez at second base, David Wright, Carlos Beltran, Jeff Francoeur, Fernando Tatis at first base, Omir Santos behind the plate, Wilson Valdez and Redding.

Lannan has a 0.36 ERA in three starts against the Mets this season, including two complete games.

Redding is 1-0 with a 1.38 ERA in two starts against Washington this year. He has a 3.75 ERA in five starts this September.

{ 37 comments }

Furious Styles September 30, 2009 at 2:25 pm

Oh look!

More Tatis.

stickguy September 30, 2009 at 2:36 pm

Yup. What possible good could it serve to get the guy that is likely to be the starting 1B next year any ABs against a good pitcher like Lannan? He might actualy learn something.

Nope, good call starting tatis. They really need to see more of him.

dave27 September 30, 2009 at 4:47 pm

Let it go, people. Please.

starz31 September 30, 2009 at 2:44 pm

“cant hit lefites” is taking on a whole new meaning…we should have known that Jerry means that literally.

thedude September 30, 2009 at 2:52 pm

From Adam Rubin’s blog:

Jose Reyes looks like he may be headed for surgery on his ailing right hamstring tendon. He felt discomfort Tuesday while trying to run and is due to be examined this afternoon.

This is just great. Well done by the Mets. Jose lobby to play. Jose lobby for no surgery. So we listen.

starz31 September 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm

I can understand if they wanted to try and heal with out surgery, but they already spent months doing that. I remember saying there was a deadline for surgery so he could be ready for ST, but we should have taken that deadline and pushed it up a month just to be sure (which we obviously didnt)

starz31 September 30, 2009 at 3:01 pm

I remember his agent* saying

thedude September 30, 2009 at 2:54 pm

This team really needs to be taken away from Jerry.

starz31 September 30, 2009 at 3:03 pm

discomfort, im shocked.

Get the surgery done. I dont care how long he’s out, make sure we TREAT the injury. no more voodoo platelet-enriching Dr. Nick Riviera treatments.

JefJarrett September 30, 2009 at 3:07 pm

I have discomfort when I watch this team play, or listen to them have a press conference, or watch Omar, Jeff, Fred, Jerry, Jeff Horizitz try to spin anything other than this organization being incredibly incompetent.

starz31 September 30, 2009 at 3:15 pm

sadly they dont need to spin anything, just them speaking is enough to show their incompetence.

wright5murph28 September 30, 2009 at 3:05 pm

hmm, mets face a lefty on friday night also, does that mean murphy will sit again, if so, what is that, 4 of the last 5 he sat? Only jerry sits down his hottest hitter who is still in the “development” process….but yea lets make sure omar and jerry’s guy tatis gets to play.

wlaadair September 30, 2009 at 3:06 pm

unbelievable, dragging this out since May, failed treatments, you name it, this team has to take the cake for medical marvels, that’s for sure.

KickedintheMetsiclesAgain September 30, 2009 at 3:19 pm

You know, I think very highly of Dr. Altcheck and the Hospital for Special Surgery, as I have used them (and him in particular) numerous times, including surgery, and have been quite pleased with the attention and results.

So I can not believe what has been occurring with Reyes. Any one in the medical world (which I am not) knows that surgery should always be a last resort and always avoided if possible. However, in this situation, what is going on?!

Do they know for sure what the problem is? Have MRIs, X-rays, exploratory micro/minor surgery been conducted to determine definitively what the problem is?

I can’t believe this is going on? And I am uncertain who is to blame given my experience with HSS (and Altcheck).

I have to say … a Reyes that is not ready by opening day will be one of a few reasons why I will elect NOT to renew my tickets.

starz31 September 30, 2009 at 3:28 pm

everybody and their mother knew back in July, that the teams responsibility was to get its players healthy for 2010. They did it right with Johan and Ollie…but Beltran is still not a guarantee and now Reyes.

wlaadair September 30, 2009 at 3:37 pm

It will be interesting to find out the list of surgeries needed that have not been done yet, other than Frenchy and maybe Beltran, no one else who is playing is due for surgery, correct?

stickguy September 30, 2009 at 4:14 pm

beltran isn’t due for surgery. If he needed microfracture, he would have stopped playing long before this. Not that it would matter, since based on what happened with basketball players, etc. he probably misses the entire 2010 season anyway.

frenchy was said to not need it before season end to be 100% ready for ST.

and other than Jose, I really don’t remember anyone else, since cora, johan and Ollie all went under the knife already.

KickedintheMetsiclesAgain September 30, 2009 at 3:21 pm

… Cora as opening day SS is not acceptable!

Rorschach September 30, 2009 at 3:31 pm

Also, Omir santos as catcher, Murphy as 1st baseman/LF, pelfrey as 2nd starter, etc… pick and choose… none of these things are acceptable.

Super King September 30, 2009 at 3:46 pm

We can’t even end a lost season right. Thank you front office, for making sure we’re pessimistic about 2010 too.

**** you.

2009_believe September 30, 2009 at 3:49 pm

just do the surgery, do it tomorrow, there has to be medical people monitoring this right? just do the surgery and that’s all i have to say

hbean September 30, 2009 at 3:57 pm

How about we just get everyone on the team some surgery this off season, just get it out of the way.

Elastic September 30, 2009 at 4:04 pm

The trainers and medical staff should all be fired. Incompetence prevailed this season.

7train September 30, 2009 at 4:09 pm

This whole situation is ugly ugly ugly. I am speechless about the situation we find our team in. the Yanks being an animal just adds to the angst. Lets Go Jets – J E T S Jets Jets Jets.

Beltranmynewfavmet September 30, 2009 at 4:30 pm

I need surgery too. Frontal lobe labotomy. That way I’ll finally have some peace, free from this team.

mextache September 30, 2009 at 4:52 pm

Well, at least we have Ebbetts, er Citi Field.

cver September 30, 2009 at 5:48 pm

Ditto on why Beltran hasn’t had surgery yet and why we might not see too much of him next season – well, maybe – who knows? I’m not the doctor and unfortunately it seems, the Mets don’t have any either – that the team listens to, at least.

The toughest job right now belongs to guys like Matt and his staff. Not easy to write about the Mets right now.

“Tonight is a key game which could determine if the Mets have the potential to be a last place team in 2010″.

That’s called satire folks – nearly. I know there is a poster called Fiya Minaya. Does anybody have one of those types of sites?

mextache September 30, 2009 at 6:23 pm

Wayne and Howie respectfully critiquing Pagan’s base running talent…or lack thereof.

Nobody’s better than Howie.

dave27 September 30, 2009 at 7:28 pm

I know this is off-thread, and may have been covered earlier, but did a little more digging on the whole Chris Carter-DFA thing and it appears to be a pretty simple scenario…

To DFA a player means you have 10 days to trade or release the player. Since Carter was DFA’d with less than 10 days in the season, he will be traded – to the Mets – because once the season ends the claim the Yankees put in earlier in the month expires.

So Carter will be a Met Monday, which does nothing for us!

MeetTheMatts.com September 30, 2009 at 7:49 pm

Justin Maxwell.

wlaadair September 30, 2009 at 7:49 pm

K rod you are kidding me right, grand slam bottom of 9th, broom time.

mextache September 30, 2009 at 7:52 pm

UN-BE-LIEV-ABLE!!

kd bart September 30, 2009 at 7:53 pm

When K-Rod cannot throw his offspeed stuff over the plate for a strike he is easily crushable. You just disregard the offspeed pitches and sit on the hittable fastball. Once again, it happened in this game. You didn’t have to offer at the offspeed stuff because it wasn’t over the plate.

ericloz September 30, 2009 at 7:55 pm

that was a kick in the groin.

After 6 months of losing, i can’t believe this still hurts.

KD September 30, 2009 at 7:56 pm

I didn’t watch the game unaware it’s a day game. But I’m gonna comment anyway. Here we go:

You know what’s wrong with this team? (Enter the usual here.)

I’ve stopped taking the losses hard because it’s so predictable. I will say though that K-Rod should have no excuses. He’s been disappointing. Even when he was lights out in the beginning, half the time he was one hit away from 2 runs coming home and him blowing a game.

2009_believe September 30, 2009 at 8:05 pm

blown save
bad way to lose

dave27 September 30, 2009 at 4:52 pm

I meant *in the United States*

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