Comments on: I’m Reading: about Hojo, the Trade, and Pies http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608075 VCarver Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:43:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608075 I gave you the link right above. Just click on it. All sources have the Yankees above $200 million this year. It's much more when using the Luxury Tax method too. I gave you the link right above. Just click on it.

All sources have the Yankees above $200 million this year. It’s much more when using the Luxury Tax method too.

]]> By: It's OUR Turn http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608046 It's OUR Turn Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:41:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608046 Where are your numbers from? I checked MLB and Yankees and both showed UNDER 200. Where are your numbers from? I checked MLB and Yankees and both showed UNDER 200.

]]> By: metskat http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608009 metskat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:10:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608009 heres what i am hoping ot see tonight...the yankees are losing in the late innings and then it hits the fans in the new 'cathedral'...omg...our corporate heirarchy went out and overspent on the 3 most desirable free agents this past season and this may be the last game of the season here at the new 'hallowed ground' unless we win 2 of 3 in philly...what a profound tragedy this is....baaaahhhhhhhh............... heres what i am hoping ot see tonight…the yankees are losing in the late innings and then it hits the fans in the new ‘cathedral’…omg…our corporate heirarchy went out and overspent on the 3 most desirable free agents this past season and this may be the last game of the season here at the new ‘hallowed ground’ unless we win 2 of 3 in philly…what a profound tragedy this is….baaaahhhhhhhh……………

]]> By: metskat http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608004 metskat Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:49:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-608004 but please lets not have the next two years be a repeat... but please lets not have the next two years be a repeat…

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607969 VCarver Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:06:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607969 The point is, it's a blue moon when a low to mid market team can actually win a WS. The Marlins did it in 2003, but it may never happen again for 20 years or more if they don't change the system. You have to be in it to win it. And almost every year, it's the big market teams that predominantly get into the playoffs. And the reason the Yankees get in almost every year is due to their humongous payroll advantage. It's not fair. The point is, it’s a blue moon when a low to mid market team can actually win a WS. The Marlins did it in 2003, but it may never happen again for 20 years or more if they don’t change the system.

You have to be in it to win it. And almost every year, it’s the big market teams that predominantly get into the playoffs. And the reason the Yankees get in almost every year is due to their humongous payroll advantage.

It’s not fair.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607967 VCarver Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:53:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607967 Your numbers are wrong. See my post below. Moreover, the Yankees have spent about a billion dollars over the last 4 years alone. No one in baseball is even within 50% of that amount. Your numbers are wrong. See my post below. Moreover, the Yankees have spent about a billion dollars over the last 4 years alone. No one in baseball is even within 50% of that amount.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607966 VCarver Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:50:56 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607966 No, they are well above $200 million. See my post below. No, they are well above $200 million. See my post below.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607965 VCarver Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:50:06 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607965 Let me try this again: Those are actual payrolls, not Luxury Tax PAYROLLS but they are close enough for the purposes of this discussion. The Yankees spent over $200 million this year according to that source (and others) and their LT payroll is even higher (as they HAVE lots of back-loaded contracts). Let me try this again:

Those are actual payrolls, not Luxury Tax PAYROLLS but they are close enough for the purposes of this discussion.

The Yankees spent over $200 million this year according to that source (and others) and their LT payroll is even higher (as they HAVE lots of back-loaded contracts).

]]> By: jimyager http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607964 jimyager Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:49:52 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607964 While I agree that the Yankees are evil and they are th ereason why prices are so high, the Rays and Rockies both made the WS and have a low patroll, so, payroll does not = a ring. I also dont like the way the Phillies carry themselves, they are spoiled winners, and worry more about the teams they beat then themselves. They are arogant and rude, I hate them, as much as, NO, more than the Yankees. If it was any other team, I would root for them over the Yankees. I rootes for the D-backs in 01 and the MArlins in 03, I cannot root for the Phillies. I am not rooting for the Yankees to win, I am rooting for the Phillies to lose. While I agree that the Yankees are evil and they are th ereason why prices are so high, the Rays and Rockies both made the WS and have a low patroll, so, payroll does not = a ring. I also dont like the way the Phillies carry themselves, they are spoiled winners, and worry more about the teams they beat then themselves. They are arogant and rude, I hate them, as much as, NO, more than the Yankees. If it was any other team, I would root for them over the Yankees. I rootes for the D-backs in 01 and the MArlins in 03, I cannot root for the Phillies. I am not rooting for the Yankees to win, I am rooting for the Phillies to lose.

]]> By: dave27 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607962 dave27 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:49:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/10/29/im-reading-about-hojo-the-trade-and-pies/#comment-607962 I hear you. It's a tough cutoff...I am 35 and was 12 in 1986. I am not sure I did anything that entire year but watch Mets games. I feel bad for any Mets fan who hasn't had the experience. At 7 I would imagine you at least remember some of it? Beyond what I said about it really comes down to personal preference. In 1996 I actually rooted for the Yankees. They'd been bad for a long time. Their fans were humbled and grateful to be back. From then on though, their fan base just turned completley insufferable. And as mush as there are some likeable Yankees, there is also ARod...and I will never root for that guy to validate his career. His old teammate Griffey will likely retire this year never having seen a WS. For ARod to win a ring the same year...just one of many ways to describe the travesty. I hear you. It’s a tough cutoff…I am 35 and was 12 in 1986. I am not sure I did anything that entire year but watch Mets games. I feel bad for any Mets fan who hasn’t had the experience. At 7 I would imagine you at least remember some of it?

Beyond what I said about it really comes down to personal preference. In 1996 I actually rooted for the Yankees. They’d been bad for a long time. Their fans were humbled and grateful to be back. From then on though, their fan base just turned completley insufferable.

And as mush as there are some likeable Yankees, there is also ARod…and I will never root for that guy to validate his career. His old teammate Griffey will likely retire this year never having seen a WS. For ARod to win a ring the same year…just one of many ways to describe the travesty.

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