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		<title>By: JohantheMan</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/03/read-jose-reyes-in-2009/#comment-608798</link>
		<dc:creator>JohantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry if my post insulted you, I just don&#039;t understand the point in debating this, we can&#039;t do anything about reyes&#039; health except wait for ST it&#039;s no use debating anything. The mets aren&#039;t going to trade him and we aren&#039;t going to sign somebody listed in your category of &quot;elite shortstops&quot; there is very little reason to suggest jose wont be great again next season other than a surgery. People recover from surgery all the time. He just needs to rehab and work it out

Nobody is saying Rollins isn&#039;t good but i&#039;d rather have reyes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry if my post insulted you, I just don&#8217;t understand the point in debating this, we can&#8217;t do anything about reyes&#8217; health except wait for ST it&#8217;s no use debating anything. The mets aren&#8217;t going to trade him and we aren&#8217;t going to sign somebody listed in your category of &#8220;elite shortstops&#8221; there is very little reason to suggest jose wont be great again next season other than a surgery. People recover from surgery all the time. He just needs to rehab and work it out</p>
<p>Nobody is saying Rollins isn&#8217;t good but i&#8217;d rather have reyes</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Bones in SC</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/03/read-jose-reyes-in-2009/#comment-608793</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Bones in SC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t agree with everyone&#039;s take on Jose.  I certainly think he is very talented.  However he is a clown.  Has never been considered as a tough out, or a smart lead off hitter.  Defensively he is overrated and not very smart either.

Pitching and Defense still wins championships.  I would trade Jose in a heartbeat for top quality pithcing.

Here are the facts:  The Mets rankings in MLB were 5th in Batting Average and 6th in steals in a year were Jose was absent most of the season.  In other words we did not miss him that much offensively.  Granted our power numbers sucked, but I don&#039;t think Jose is the answer to that problem.

How were our pitching numbers?  21st in ERA and 25th in K&#039;s.  Oh yea.  And that is in our new pitching friendly park! 

I still like Jose and would like to see him remain a Met, but don&#039;t tell me that I am not a Met fan if I would consider trading him for top level pitching.

If the Mets have Jose coming back, playing well and then trade him for top pitching, then I would consider it a smart move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t agree with everyone&#8217;s take on Jose.  I certainly think he is very talented.  However he is a clown.  Has never been considered as a tough out, or a smart lead off hitter.  Defensively he is overrated and not very smart either.</p>
<p>Pitching and Defense still wins championships.  I would trade Jose in a heartbeat for top quality pithcing.</p>
<p>Here are the facts:  The Mets rankings in MLB were 5th in Batting Average and 6th in steals in a year were Jose was absent most of the season.  In other words we did not miss him that much offensively.  Granted our power numbers sucked, but I don&#8217;t think Jose is the answer to that problem.</p>
<p>How were our pitching numbers?  21st in ERA and 25th in K&#8217;s.  Oh yea.  And that is in our new pitching friendly park! </p>
<p>I still like Jose and would like to see him remain a Met, but don&#8217;t tell me that I am not a Met fan if I would consider trading him for top level pitching.</p>
<p>If the Mets have Jose coming back, playing well and then trade him for top pitching, then I would consider it a smart move.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/03/read-jose-reyes-in-2009/#comment-608785</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mets offense was a miserable engine which went from zero to sixty in a lightning span of 24 hours.  Any one who watched this team last year and is STILL ready to whine about Reyes vs. x, y, z is just writing filler for an unread tome.

The Mets need Jose Reyes healthy.  If they do not have that they could sign Matt Holliday and trade for Prince Fielder and they will still be one dimensional.  Last year it was dimensionless singles game, next year it would be a paraded of solo homeruns.  

Get your heads out of fantasy baseball and the strato cards watch the game and see the utter lack of life that was rampant in the Mets land. 

Many a Met fans whines about history and its lack of respect then simultaneously spends hours upon hours of time finding ways to dice up Reyes on a silver platter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mets offense was a miserable engine which went from zero to sixty in a lightning span of 24 hours.  Any one who watched this team last year and is STILL ready to whine about Reyes vs. x, y, z is just writing filler for an unread tome.</p>
<p>The Mets need Jose Reyes healthy.  If they do not have that they could sign Matt Holliday and trade for Prince Fielder and they will still be one dimensional.  Last year it was dimensionless singles game, next year it would be a paraded of solo homeruns.  </p>
<p>Get your heads out of fantasy baseball and the strato cards watch the game and see the utter lack of life that was rampant in the Mets land. </p>
<p>Many a Met fans whines about history and its lack of respect then simultaneously spends hours upon hours of time finding ways to dice up Reyes on a silver platter.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Janish</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/03/read-jose-reyes-in-2009/#comment-608781</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Janish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes he did ... with one wave of the wand and an &quot;abracadabra&quot;, Rollins raised his average to .250 right before your eyes (to go along with 21 HR, 77 RBI, 100 runs, 31 SB).

You can &quot;take&quot; Jose every day and Sundays if you want. Whether he&#039;s healthy enough to show up is another story. 

No one is arguing that Reyes is among the elite when he&#039;s on the field and 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes he did &#8230; with one wave of the wand and an &#8220;abracadabra&#8221;, Rollins raised his average to .250 right before your eyes (to go along with 21 HR, 77 RBI, 100 runs, 31 SB).</p>
<p>You can &#8220;take&#8221; Jose every day and Sundays if you want. Whether he&#8217;s healthy enough to show up is another story. </p>
<p>No one is arguing that Reyes is among the elite when he&#8217;s on the field and 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: JohantheMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohantheMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has magically jimmy rollins managed to raise his batting average above .230 yet?

thanks but no thanks, i&#039;ll take my chances with jose reyes any day of the week and twice on sundays</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has magically jimmy rollins managed to raise his batting average above .230 yet?</p>
<p>thanks but no thanks, i&#8217;ll take my chances with jose reyes any day of the week and twice on sundays</p>
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		<title>By: JohantheMan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is one of the best points I have heard made concerning jose reyes well the part about the mets being too dependent on him. He clearly is very talented and his abscense this season was sorely sorely missed even Matt&#039;s chart shows that,  I think the combo of losing him and Beltran really hurt us but if he has a bad series the team can&#039;t not manage to win, maybe playing without him this year will give them a better handle on what to do when he is slumping because good players slump, it happens, look at texiera in this series, yet the team is winning. Jose makes things happen but he can&#039;t be depended on all alone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is one of the best points I have heard made concerning jose reyes well the part about the mets being too dependent on him. He clearly is very talented and his abscense this season was sorely sorely missed even Matt&#8217;s chart shows that,  I think the combo of losing him and Beltran really hurt us but if he has a bad series the team can&#8217;t not manage to win, maybe playing without him this year will give them a better handle on what to do when he is slumping because good players slump, it happens, look at texiera in this series, yet the team is winning. Jose makes things happen but he can&#8217;t be depended on all alone</p>
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		<title>By: JohantheMan</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/03/read-jose-reyes-in-2009/#comment-608776</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very well said</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very well said</p>
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		<title>By: JohantheMan</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/03/read-jose-reyes-in-2009/#comment-608775</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could you please explain why you keep going on about how jose &quot;has never been healthy&quot; seriously because in 2005 he played 161 games, 2006, 153 games, 2007 160 and last year 159, that seems to me like he was healthy those four years, are you somehow seeing this wrong? or going on wrong information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could you please explain why you keep going on about how jose &#8220;has never been healthy&#8221; seriously because in 2005 he played 161 games, 2006, 153 games, 2007 160 and last year 159, that seems to me like he was healthy those four years, are you somehow seeing this wrong? or going on wrong information</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Janish</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/03/read-jose-reyes-in-2009/#comment-608728</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Janish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NL shortstops who are  All-Star caliber: Hanley Ramirez, Yunel Escobar, Miguel Tejada, Troy Tulowitzki, Jimmy Rollins. 

Stephen Drew and JJ Hardy both were awful in 2009, but you could argue that both put up All-Star numbers in 2008 and 2007. Both are young enough to rebound in 2010.

Ryan Theriot and Rafael Furcal are a notch below &quot;All Star&quot; status but Furcal is a former star and Theriot a rising one. 

The point I&#039;m trying to make is that having a productive shortstop is not a big deal -- it&#039;s pretty much a given that a postseason team is going to have a very good- to great shortstop (possibly a necessity). Some Mets fans think their team has a great advantage by having a good defensive shortstop who can also produce offensively -- but it&#039;s not as rare as it used to be. 

That said, if Reyes doesn&#039;t have his legs, he&#039;s not going to be head-and-shoulders above any other championship-caliber shortstop. In other words, Reyes at only 75% is not an advantage over the likes of Tulowitzki, Rollins, Escobar, etc. Without his speed on offense and defense he might not even be significantly better than Hardy or Drew in a good year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NL shortstops who are  All-Star caliber: Hanley Ramirez, Yunel Escobar, Miguel Tejada, Troy Tulowitzki, Jimmy Rollins. </p>
<p>Stephen Drew and JJ Hardy both were awful in 2009, but you could argue that both put up All-Star numbers in 2008 and 2007. Both are young enough to rebound in 2010.</p>
<p>Ryan Theriot and Rafael Furcal are a notch below &#8220;All Star&#8221; status but Furcal is a former star and Theriot a rising one. </p>
<p>The point I&#8217;m trying to make is that having a productive shortstop is not a big deal &#8212; it&#8217;s pretty much a given that a postseason team is going to have a very good- to great shortstop (possibly a necessity). Some Mets fans think their team has a great advantage by having a good defensive shortstop who can also produce offensively &#8212; but it&#8217;s not as rare as it used to be. </p>
<p>That said, if Reyes doesn&#8217;t have his legs, he&#8217;s not going to be head-and-shoulders above any other championship-caliber shortstop. In other words, Reyes at only 75% is not an advantage over the likes of Tulowitzki, Rollins, Escobar, etc. Without his speed on offense and defense he might not even be significantly better than Hardy or Drew in a good year.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy2cat</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soft tissue injuries, such as the one to Jose, require alot of time to heal.  Over time, players learn how to cope with certain limitations imposed by, say, a torn ankle or a twisted knee or a torn hamstring muscle or tendon.  As a former quarterback and pitcher, I learned to cope with 3 torn ankles, 2 meniscus tears, broken ribs and 5 concussions.  You deal with it and get back on the field.  With the proper attitude, sometimes these injuries increase your mental toughness.

I recall the frustration Jose experienced when he had his hamstring issues in 2004.  People then questioned his threshold for pain.  I recall him commenting on how frustrated he was to hear Met fans question his fortitude.  When his health returned, he was everything we had hoped and more.

Jose needs time, but I think he&#039;ll be fine.  Last season, I believe the Met PR group sold the fans a bill of goods that only Bernie Madoff would be proud of.  They must have known the extent of the injuries to their ballplayers, and did everything possible to create the false belief and hope of an imminent return for Beltran, Reyes, Delgado, Maine, etc...

Its really unfair for the fans to take it out on Reyes.  He loves the game, loves being a Met and loves the City of New York.  He belongs here in a Met uniform, permanently.  Many of us will feel fully vindicated when he gets his first WS ring.  I simply think Omar must focus on getting younger winning ballplayers, whether through Free Agency or through the Met Farm.

During the interim, Jose Reyes needs our full support, if we are to call ourselves true Met fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soft tissue injuries, such as the one to Jose, require alot of time to heal.  Over time, players learn how to cope with certain limitations imposed by, say, a torn ankle or a twisted knee or a torn hamstring muscle or tendon.  As a former quarterback and pitcher, I learned to cope with 3 torn ankles, 2 meniscus tears, broken ribs and 5 concussions.  You deal with it and get back on the field.  With the proper attitude, sometimes these injuries increase your mental toughness.</p>
<p>I recall the frustration Jose experienced when he had his hamstring issues in 2004.  People then questioned his threshold for pain.  I recall him commenting on how frustrated he was to hear Met fans question his fortitude.  When his health returned, he was everything we had hoped and more.</p>
<p>Jose needs time, but I think he&#8217;ll be fine.  Last season, I believe the Met PR group sold the fans a bill of goods that only Bernie Madoff would be proud of.  They must have known the extent of the injuries to their ballplayers, and did everything possible to create the false belief and hope of an imminent return for Beltran, Reyes, Delgado, Maine, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Its really unfair for the fans to take it out on Reyes.  He loves the game, loves being a Met and loves the City of New York.  He belongs here in a Met uniform, permanently.  Many of us will feel fully vindicated when he gets his first WS ring.  I simply think Omar must focus on getting younger winning ballplayers, whether through Free Agency or through the Met Farm.</p>
<p>During the interim, Jose Reyes needs our full support, if we are to call ourselves true Met fans.</p>
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