Comments on: I’m Reading: about Actions, Medley’s, who’s cheaper, Free Agent Fears http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fonzie86 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613190 Fonzie86 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:52:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613190 I understand you and did not mean to discourage you from posting. I hope he makes a big move as well but I just hope it's not making a move to make a move, that will hurt the team in the future. It's tough because with all the needs, they could go in so many directions. I understand you and did not mean to discourage you from posting. I hope he makes a big move as well but I just hope it’s not making a move to make a move, that will hurt the team in the future. It’s tough because with all the needs, they could go in so many directions.

]]> By: Big Lou http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613184 Big Lou Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:19:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613184 Exactly, maybe Lackey as a 3 or even Bedard/Sheets/Harden or even Wolf at that point. LF i'm not so sure we'll get Holliday nor Bay. Does anyone know if F-mart is healed from his injury? I wouldn't mind giving him one more shot to see if he's the real deal or not. Exactly, maybe Lackey as a 3 or even Bedard/Sheets/Harden or even Wolf at that point. LF i’m not so sure we’ll get Holliday nor Bay. Does anyone know if F-mart is healed from his injury? I wouldn’t mind giving him one more shot to see if he’s the real deal or not.

]]> By: Sylow59 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613157 Sylow59 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:18:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613157 2 birds, 1 stone and leaves a ton of cash for other needs 2 birds, 1 stone and leaves a ton of cash for other needs

]]> By: Big Lou http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613145 Big Lou Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:42:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613145 Love your plan, but i read somewhere that the Marlins would look to trade Cantu for payroll reasons. I think he would be adequate at first base, and by tying him in with Johnson would be a great blockbuster. Love your plan, but i read somewhere that the Marlins would look to trade Cantu for payroll reasons. I think he would be adequate at first base, and by tying him in with Johnson would be a great blockbuster.

]]> By: MetsFan06 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613125 MetsFan06 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:01:19 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613125 And what do u think the Mets will do? And what do u think the Mets will do?

]]> By: MetsFan06 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613124 MetsFan06 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:00:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613124 Thankyou for telling me how it was unrealistic. I think that I was just hoping that Omar would get the message and make a huge move this off-season. Nice post though:) Thankyou for telling me how it was unrealistic. I think that I was just hoping that Omar would get the message and make a huge move this off-season. Nice post though:)

]]> By: Fonzie86 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613104 Fonzie86 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:04:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613104 I highly doubt the Marlin would consider moving him at all. It's purely speculation. metsfan06: Your plan would add a very large amount to payroll. Because it's unsure how much the FA's will sign for, an exact number is not possible, but here is a rough estimate... Lackey - 15M/per Holliday - 17M/per Barajas/Molina - 3M/per (depending on guy) Cora - 1M Putz/Beimal - 3M Phillips earns - 6.75M next year Arroyo (11M)/ Harang (12.5M) Total - roughly 58M next year You may want then to spend like the Yankees but they simply will not do it. I know they said they will spend but I doubt it's even more than 30M or so, maybe mid 30's tops. This makes you plan unrealistic. Also you do not mention how they get Phillips as he will not come cheap in terms of prospects. This is not necessarily my ideal off season or even likely but something that is remotely possible. Also within reason in terms of money: lets say hypothetically this 3 team trade rumor somehow works out, Castillo out, Millwood to the Mets. Then 2nd base is open, trade John Maine, Ruben Tejada, Brad Holt, and maybe another C grade prospect. (Its hard to judge how much talent it would take being a fan, but say a package built around what I listed and a bit more to get the deal done.) Sign Delgado (4M w/incentives?) Sign Barajas (2M w/incentives?) Rough estimate with shedding some payroll (Maine, Castillo) is 21M added. This depends how the Castillo, Millwood money is broken down. This leaves room for maybe adding a Matt Holliday if they wanted to break the bank. It does not forfeit the future and allows competing in future and 2010. It may not come close to happening but is feasible money wise. I highly doubt the Marlin would consider moving him at all. It’s purely speculation.

metsfan06: Your plan would add a very large amount to payroll. Because it’s unsure how much the FA’s will sign for, an exact number is not possible, but here is a rough estimate…

Lackey – 15M/per
Holliday – 17M/per
Barajas/Molina – 3M/per (depending on guy)
Cora – 1M
Putz/Beimal – 3M
Phillips earns – 6.75M next year
Arroyo (11M)/ Harang (12.5M)

Total – roughly 58M next year

You may want then to spend like the Yankees but they simply will not do it. I know they said they will spend but I doubt it’s even more than 30M or so, maybe mid 30′s tops. This makes you plan unrealistic. Also you do not mention how they get Phillips as he will not come cheap in terms of prospects.

This is not necessarily my ideal off season or even likely but something that is remotely possible. Also within reason in terms of money:

lets say hypothetically this 3 team trade rumor somehow works out, Castillo out, Millwood to the Mets.

Then 2nd base is open, trade John Maine, Ruben Tejada, Brad Holt, and maybe another C grade prospect. (Its hard to judge how much talent it would take being a fan, but say a package built around what I listed and a bit more to get the deal done.)

Sign Delgado (4M w/incentives?)
Sign Barajas (2M w/incentives?)

Rough estimate with shedding some payroll (Maine, Castillo) is 21M added. This depends how the Castillo, Millwood money is broken down. This leaves room for maybe adding a Matt Holliday if they wanted to break the bank. It does not forfeit the future and allows competing in future and 2010. It may not come close to happening but is feasible money wise.

]]> By: JohantheMan http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613101 JohantheMan Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:48:06 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613101 Is Johnson even availible? Is Johnson even availible?

]]> By: Sylow59 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613097 Sylow59 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:15:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613097 Yeah, I think it would cost more too. I'm not a Pinaro fan. I live in St Louis and nobody is talking about him. They're talking about Marquis more. If they can land Johnson the Beddard and Hardin would make a wicked 1 - 4. You would need to limit Hardin to about 25 games. Beddard's injury was not as bad as feared and had a good run. Hardin would be #4. You could put my Grandmother as the #5 in that rotation and still win 90 without much offensive upgrades. Get AGon, granted unlikely, and you're over 100 with Pagan in LF. Oh well, time to make a more realistic Christmas list for Santa sigh Yeah, I think it would cost more too. I’m not a Pinaro fan. I live in St Louis and nobody is talking about him. They’re talking about Marquis more. If they can land Johnson the Beddard and Hardin would make a wicked 1 – 4. You would need to limit Hardin to about 25 games. Beddard’s injury was not as bad as feared and had a good run. Hardin would be #4. You could put my Grandmother as the #5 in that rotation and still win 90 without much offensive upgrades. Get AGon, granted unlikely, and you’re over 100 with Pagan in LF.

Oh well, time to make a more realistic Christmas list for Santa

sigh

]]> By: MetsFan06 http://www.metsblog.com/2009/11/21/im-reading-about-actions-medleys-whos-cheaper-free-agent-fears/#comment-613096 MetsFan06 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:10:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/?p=45335#comment-613096 I would take Johnson but I wouldn't want to trade big prospects to get him. I would rather spend them on a bat. I would take Johnson but I wouldn’t want to trade big prospects to get him. I would rather spend them on a bat.

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