According to ESPN’s Seth Everett, speaking on his radio show for ESPN 1050, the Mets would need to make two acquisitions to the starting rotation before 
seriously considering a deal that includes John Maine.
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Updated at 5:50 pm:
In an on-air report for ESPN News, Peter Gammons said the Mets can, ‘and should,’ trade John Maine to the Brewers for OF Corey Hart, concluding, ‘it makes sense for both teams.’
Original Post at 12:11 pm:
According to Buster Olney of ESPN.com, “The Corey Hart-for-John Maine deal would come later, other dominos have to fall. The Mets have to get some other pitchers in the fold first before considering that trade.”
… the buzz from Indianapolis is consistent with what olney is saying… basically, any trade the Mets have talked about involves Mike Pelfrey or maine… but, in order to make such a move, the Mets need to acquire a starting pitcher, be it in a separate deal or through free agency…
Speaking of outfielders…
The Rays and White Sox have discussed swapping OF Carlos Quentin and OF Carl Crawford, reports Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times.
However, manager Ozzie Guillen told Cowley ‘those talks are all but flat-lined.’
Quentin, 27, will earn the league minimum next year, he is eligible for arbitration the following three seasons, and is not eligible for free agency until after 2013.
I really don’t want Hart. Since hitting 24 homers and posting an .892 OPS in 2007, his numbers have drastically declined, culminating in a 13 homer and .753 OPS in 2009. Yech. We already have that outfielder, and his name is Jeff Franceour.
That is what I think
yes, it’s a Pitcher who was injured and under performed for an OF who was injured and underperformed – but I’d rather keep the pitcher.
Hi Peter!! How you be?! This talk of trading Maine for this guy makes me want to puke. If they trade Maine, they will need 3 starting pitchers instead of two. Let’s face it – if, heaven forbid Johan gets hurt, right now Maine is all we’ve got. Omar’s stockpiling scrub catchers as insurance, but he’s gonna trade Johnny Maine? WTF! Give my love to the Island!!!
Actually, I think Fernando Tatis is a worthwhile comparison as well.
Why? Because while a lot of fans want to dump the guy, Tatis has been notably better than Hart for many years now, posting an OPS of .853 and .777 with the Mets over the last two years.
Hart still has a dash of potential going on 28, but not too much. He is your typical league average corner OF. I guess it depends on whether or not the Mets feel that Maine has potential.
I don’t know how I feel about trading Pelfrey. I think he is still young and can be a good pitcher and he’s cheap. I was hoping they would bring in a Piniero and Marquis type pitchers and then move Maine into the bullpen. Lets see how this unravels!
i don’t want Hart … and i would hope that Maine could fetch something more than that ….
i do agree with trading both Maine and Pelfrey … but it needs to fill a hole on the roster.
I really can’t see them moving Pelfrey, except for an Edwin Jackson type player. Maine, yes, but not Pelfrey.
Or how about… signing Garland and/or Marquis and then dealing Pelf, FMart, Mejia and Ruben Tejada for Halladay. Sold!
Simply put,………NO!,…….On the Halladay part!
(By the way, that would leave us with the following rotation:)
Santana
Halladay
Garland
Maine
Perez
In minors: Niese, Nieve, Holt, Familia (later on).
Sure Bruce. Just make sure to complain next year when there is no prospects in the farm system.
Exactly! By the way Eddie, how are your prices?
For Halladay, I might trade a few… Not all, but a few. If Halladay comes to us, it would be because all other trade partners fell through… not dissimilar from the Santana situation.
Let me see if I understand this correctly:
The Mets plan on moving either Maine or Pelfrey, but only if then can sign a pitcher. So this means they are pencilling Niese into the rotation. There is no other answer.
Santana
Pitcher X (Marquis? Pinero?)
Maine or Pelfrey
Perez
#5 (by default = Niese)
And what, praytell, will they be able to get in return for Maine or Pelfrey? A Cory Hart level OF. And given the vision quest of signing Molina and swapping out Castillo for Hudson; well it will be a long summer.
There is a long way to go. 5th starter is a question mark for every team. They’d probably sign another cheap vet and see what happens. They also have Redding, Niese, and Parnell.
Oh god, you just reminded me that Tim Reading could once again be a part of the rotation or even still on the the team,……..I think I’m going to be sick,……..be back in a few!
Of those three I’ll go with Niese, which was my point. With the above rotation you have:
#1 coming off arm surgery
#3.75 probably (Pinero’s 2009 was an absolute aberation and Marquis is a 3/4 and everyone else is an injury risk)
#4 (either Maine or Pelfrey)
#4 coming off push-off leg surgery (Niese)
#5 coming off knee surgery (Perez)
Last year Santana was healthy, Ollie was assumed to be a #3, ditto Maine, Pelfrey a budding #2, with Redding, Livan, and Garcia vying for #5 with a healthy Niese waiting for a mid-season call-up. Although the names are almost identical last year’s rotation was in a much better place.
redding is getting non tendered for sure
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Please tell me one team that didn’t use multiple 5th starters this year.
Hart is just okay. I think Maine still has a lot of potential, and is one of my favorite Mets besides. Don’t trade him!
I rather continue to bank on Maine’s possible upside than trade for a league average outfielder little distincition. I think this would be a bad trade. And would it preclude a Holliday signing?
I am going to say NO NO NO, we want Holliday!! hopefully this is just a smoke screen to put on the pressure since I haven’t heard anybody else interested in Holliday except St. Louis and there was that report that they don’t have money b/c of signing. Also I like Maine, I think he’s finally healthy and I am rooting for him all the way
NO thanks, we already have a jeff franceour.
No thx. We have F-Core and we are the front runners to get Holliday. Leave Maine on the team. Why make trades that are un neccessary. If we couldn’t get Holliday then it would be cool since we can get Lackey but I doubt that. Hopefully this is a Plan D+
Needless trade that just fulfills Omar desire to make a trade.
Maybe they know something about Maine that we don’t, just like they obviously knew something about Ryan Church that we didn’t.
Maine and Perez are both headcases. We can’t have 2 headcases in the rotation and it’s a lot easier to unload Maine than it is Perez. I think too many people on here overvalue Maine. What’s he done in the past 2 years?
Now, I’m no Hart fan. I’d prefer we used Maine to get bullpen help or maybe a C or 2b but lets stop acting like Maine is something he clearly isn’t. – a #2 or #3.
Unless Minaya already has a plan to trade Hart to another team (remember the Jays were looking for a ML young pitcher and OFer to be part of the Halladay deal?), then it’s a bad idea. They already have Francouer on the team (a player that can hit for power but doesn’t get On base), why would they want Hart?
BTW, Church was designated for assignment by the Braves today. I guess the Mets gamble on Francouer looks better now.
if we trade maine, watch him win 18 games next year.
He’ll win the CY Young award and strike out more than 200
thats why I wont deal him unless its for a big player coming back to the mets.
Agree, like Phillips and Arroyo or Agon.
read my post on the Bradley thread
I just did. You make a good point that many FA’s won’t be sign till’ January.
I’m not sure you got the main point. There won’t be a Holloday or a Lackey. There will be whoever we get for Castillo and Maine. That’s pretty much it.
I really want Maine to stay. Unless we aren’t getting Holliday, why would we trade Maine for Hart. Makes no sense. For Castillo, idk who we’ll get back in return. Mecje will be nice but like you said or was it someone else, that one season doesn’t make them a good pitcher.
2013. Anything before that is a miracle on a par with the 1980 US hockey team
I think you’ve been a Mets fan for far, far too long…….
If this actually happened, I think it would go down as another awful, awful trade by the Mets. Why trade a pitcher like John Maine (whose his trade value is at an all time low) for another 4th outfielder? Is that really what we need right now??? Maine is a pitcher with tremendous upside, I just can’t picture trading him for someone as unimpressive as Hart…