According to the New York Post, Mets GM Omar Minaya said yesterday that he remains interested in re-signing free agent 1B Carlos Delgado, who the team will go see play in Puerto Rico in the next week or so.
The Orioles have been in contact with Delgado, as they search for a first baseman, reports Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun.
…i have heard that delgado is most interested in the Mets, Orioles and Braves, though the Orioles are the only team to be linked to him in rumor this off season…
…i get the feeling the Mets look at delgado in much the same way they looked at Pedro Martinez last off season, in that they’ll take him back, at a discount, but they’d like to explore other options first, if for no other reason that it’s an opportunity to change up the roster… however, if it is determined that delgado can be had for a bargain, i think the Mets will bring him back… and that may happen, because i don’t see how any other team steps up for him, considering his hip, defense, and the number of better free-agent DHs on the market…
NOOOOOOOO
Lets just move on. We have Davis coming up and some other good prospects. Lets move on.
We need another 1B in 2010. Delgado would not be blocking Davis, and whoever these other “good” prospects you speak of, because they will NOT be ready next season.
Delgado is solid, I would like him for a year, the guy put up very good numbers for us, sign him for one until Davis gets here.
i want the production on offense… but dont want the defense, age, presence in the clubhouse, or the halt of experience for murphy … negatives outweigh the positives here
What presence in the clubhouse, I never heard anything negative about him, in fact I think he was had a positive influence in the clubhouse and was always talking to the younger guys.
im talking about his presence in the sense that he is blocking guys like david wright from becoming the leader of this team..
Huh? How is this? D Wright had great years with Delgado in the lineup, its about production on the field which Delgado provided.
what im saying is i want to move on from the delgado era… reyes said it today in his interview that delgado has been the leader in the clubhouse for this team.. i want to move on so david wright and carlos beltran can step into that leadership role instead of in delgados shadow
Thats cool but I want him to hit hr’s and drive in runs for us, I dont care about leadership, you have everyday solid players you’re going to win, thats what I care about.
u mean hitting hrs and driving in runs when hes healthy right? not missing 3/4 of the year with a hip injury? and then, once declaring himself out for the year, returning to PR instead of in the dugout supporting his teammates? or when he was driving in runs and hitting home runs like at the end of 07? its time to move on man, like i said.. production good- everything else bad… thanks for 06 and then second half of 08 carlos, but good bye
If he’s out 3/4 of year and in PR, I don’t think he’s blocking Wright development as a clubhouse leader.
Jerry Manuel said “ths is David’s team, and Delgado or no Delgado, David is the leader for this team”. Im sure that if you polled the Mets players they will say that David Wright is their captain.
If Wright is really the leader of the Club (he is certainly the image), having Delgado on the team or not, will not matter. The chemistry issue has been created by the media.
Its not just image, its unwavering commitment to the team and teammates, and Wright has shown that more than anyone else on the Mets.
With everything else that is going on around the Mets, a healthy Delgado for a year may not be a bad deal. When healthy, he can be productive. If he gets hurt, there’s always Murphy. I don’t think we should sign somebody new just so we can say we have a new 1B. If we can get Delgado for another year and then usher in Ike Davis, I’d be fine.
if they were rebuilding id say move on, but they are obviously trying to win now. So if you sign a guy like holliday or bay, Id like to bring him back on a one year deal. Have Murphy to rest him and be a pinch hitter. bringing him back gives you depth and some punch in the middle of the lineup
I say bring him back (but only on the cheap). You could start him, then take him out for defensive reasons (not that Murphy is a HUGE upgrade on defense), or you could use him as a pinch hitter off the bench. If you listened to the Reyes interview today, he mentioned how Delgado was really one of the leading forces of the club (when he was healthy). Especially with Wright coming off a mediocre year, Delgado could provide some leadership, and could help Ike Davis when and if he comes up.
If you can’t get Bay and Holliday, then yes Delgado is an option and we could get Crawford for LF but that whole Plan is very unlikely. We should do the following before getting Delgado.
1) Get Holliday
2) Get Sheets
3) Get Marquis
4) Get Molina FOR 2 YEARS
5) Get Biemel or another Bullpen arm
6) Try and trade Castillo and sign Hudson
7) Get another bench player or just get Delgado and bench Murphy.
That is a total of 45 mill which is what it would cost to compete in the NL East and take the divivsion. When Omar says, we have to believe in pitchers like Pelfrey, Maine and Perez, that won’t do anything. Words can’t help. Action does,
Another bench player instead of Delgado would be like Hairston or DeRosa.
to be honest I’d rather have delgado than murphy, delgado could still hit 30 HRs if healthy.
reyes
castilllo
beltran
bay
wright
delgado
francouer
molina
very solid..
I can see Delgado winding up on the O’s. If he feels like he is healthy and the O’s more willing to offer him more of a guaranteed contract, he’ll be hitting at Camden Yards next year. If he is healthy, in that yard he just might hit 40 hrs. Can’t you just see another ex-Met doing that? LOL!
Matt – when you “get the feeling” about something, does that mean you have a source of information telling you that the team’s thinking? Or is that your own opinion how the team should proceed? in this age of quasi-journalism, i get confused about distinction of reporting information and of expressing opinion …
I would like to see Delgado come back. If not then go get Branynan or Johnson.
However, no matter how good the line-up is, we still have to have better pitching. Legit #2 and #3 starters is what I want for Christmas. Otherwise contending will be tough.
I want to see one arm push ups, first!
How are we changing this team?
I think people are too hard on Carlos. Then again, I wonder about the value of his clubhouse presence. He is a very knowledgeable player, no question. He has a lot of wisdom to instill, but does he get the other guys fired up? Furthermore, does he have the opposite effect? Does he drag the clubhouse down? These are all valid questions in my opinion.
Delgado seems to a positive influence on the team. Jerry and several of the players mentioned this last year when Carlos was absent.
if healthy…if he is healthy…that’s the big “if”
Garko is 29 years old and healthy. Probably will come cheaper than Delgado.
Good defensively and a much needed RH bat to platoon with Murphy.
Its time to move on…
We don’t need a platoon for Murphy! Leave the guy alone already!
Agree.
disagree
Well if we sign Delgado, Murphy is a bench player or trade fodder.
If Delgado is healthy, I’d like to see him back for the year, if he’ll accept a one year deal, maybe with a vesting option. A healthy Delgado only makes Wright a better hitter.
If the price is right and if he’s healthy, Delgado would supply some much-needed power. Murphy regressed last year although I feel he made great improvement in the field at 1B.
Murphy needs to regain his ability to put up good OBP numbers. And, with Davis coming up soon, Murphy may need to learn to play 2B so some time back in the minors might not hurt him. As it is, he had virtually no time at AAA.
That said, if we can’t get a healthy Delgado, we need a right handed 1B with power. Somebody on a 1 year deal.
In terms of pitching, I was just about crying to get Ben Sheets, a solid number one in the rotation when healthy. Ollie was a big mistake. If we could take a 36 MILLION dollar chance on him, why not take a chance on Sheets?
Finally- for the moment- Castillo isn’t our biggest problem by any stretch. Let’s not let an obsession with trading him distract from adding more important pieces to the roster.
Right on the money KTB about Castillo!
I feel the Mets should go with Ike Davis in 2010. Murphy as a back up. I feel Ike is ready now! If the Mets want a full year of AAA out of Ike. I would bring back Delgado for 1 year. Should the Mets fail to sign Bay or Holliday. Delgado is a must! Preferably I would rather trade chips for Adrian Gonzalez and use Ike in RF next year. I recall the Phillies doing the same with Ryan Howard when they had Thome.
That’s pushing Davis way too much. He only played 50 games in AA and while he was very good it’s still only 50 games above A ball. They should not and will not call him up to start the year.
if they did call him up and he sucked it would be over for him in NY
If you exclude Davis what “chips” are left?
i’m kind of torn on this, if we sign bay and delgado that really makes the lineup so much better and if we are going in with a solid guy at the number 2 hole that might be a good thing, on the other hand, can he be depended on for health? should we just give up on murphy?
also while i was right there with everybody cheering mvp for him in 2008 why did he hit for only half the year
starting 09 i’m sure we all believed we were a playoff team and we had murphy and delgado in the lineup with johan, pelf, maine perez, livan in the rotation. On top of that, Delgado only produced for half of 2008 and we still would have made the playoffs if we had a healthy bullpen. The point I am trying to make is the team isn’t far off, let’s sign a LFer first
I agree with you 100% but people dont seem to realize it….they think the Mets are farther away from a contending club than they really are
Okay, on top of that, aren’t there a ton of reports out there saying the mets are close to bay yet i haven’t read anything here?
Where did you read that it’s close? Email Matt the link. I’ve just read that a 5 year offer is on the table, same thing I’ve read on this site.
actually i heard it on the fan they didn’t say close they said the mets are in serious negotiations with bay but idk
Something tells me Bay is just messing with the Mets. He is looking to go to Seattle or somewhere out west. I sure hope I ‘m wrong though, because without him or someone like him, the line-up looks anemic.
I’m starting to wonder about that myself.
If the Mets sign either Bay or Holliday, and they can sign Delgado to a 1 year deal (low base salary + tons of incentives) I wouldn’t mind having him back. The fact is that 2010 is a transitional year at 1B, with Ike Davis projected to take over in 2011. The Mets don’t have a future spot for Murphy as he can’t play in the OF, Wright is a 3B long term and Ike Davis will be at 1B.
So Murphy will end up on the bench, with occasional starts to rest Delgado. If Carlos gets hurt, then Murphy replaces him. But having Delgado’s power potential at 1B, could should help a team that will probably be carrying a #2 starter named Marquis, Garland or Piñeiro (meaning, not a real #2).
SS Reyes
2B Castillo (no longer have hopes the Mets can trade him)
CF Beltran
LF Holliday or Bay (I still prefer Holliday)
3B Wright
1B Delgado
RF Francouer
C Barajas or Molina
If the lineup is healthy, they will score a lot of runs.
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You are assuming that Delgado is 100 ok. Hitting 280 with 35 homers. Meanwhile we lost any remaining trade value in Murphy. You have to play Murphy or just trade him. All of this will be play out in spring training.
What trade value? Seriously what could you hope to get for him? Have there been any indication that any team wants him? Any whatsoever?
You know, i think you make a good point.
Murphy right now may not have much trade value, but these young players are assets and club should try to maximize those values. Mets are lousy at that. Example … Parnell fairly well regarded starter in minors, Mets choose to rush him up and put him in middle relief role b/c he’s wasn’t ready to start. Had he stayed in minors and enjoyed success, he might have been considered a prospect. Now he’s considered a middle reliever with no upside, period. Evans put up some decent numbers in 2008, outrageous splits against LHP, and Mets completely mismanaged him to where he has absolutely no value right now, and maybe no MLB job.
Re Murphy … if he is not starting at 1B, send him to AAA to rotate between 2B and 3B for full season … work on defense, pitch selection and driving the inside pitch. Forget about marginal value as backup on big club, try to develop this kid into a player that we or other teams would want. Having Murphy be a bench player at age 24 will ruin any chance he might have at a productive career.
I keep hearing everyone saying that we should bring back delgado on IF he is healthy
Lets be honest he is not going to be healthy all of 2010 but at the same time he probably wont be on the DL anywhere near as long as he was in 2009
But I think overall it would be nice to have Delgado back for a year….the guy can hit better than any other option at first base the mets have….and he is a positive influence in the Club house
Honestly I wouldnt even care if he provided the Mets with the season he had in 07 which is one of the worst years of his career(26 home runs and 80 sumthing RBIS) which is better than anybody will probably do replacing delgado
and I think it is safe to say he will likely produce better than that(barring serious injury) since it is one of his worst years
So i think Delgado will not be completely healthy or as injured as he was last year but I think we should resign him and expect around 120 games played thats good enough for me
Delgado might be Mets only option. Unless the Mets offer at least a 6 year to Bay. I see Bay signing with Seattle. Holliday at least 6 years at least $18 Million a season. Unless a trade for Gonzo. Lf Damon ?
Reyes
Damon
Beltran
Gonzalez
Wright
Frenchy
Molina
Castillo
happy to see the mets sign the igarashi dude.. seen some of his videos on youtube, throws pretty hard
did they sign him?
oh yeah they did
When did this happen?
check mlbtr it’s like the 2nd entry up on the main page
just checked and now there is a post. thx
I’d like this to be our 2010 team. Give Delgado something cheap like 3-4 mill. I don’t really know how much he’s so don’t judge that offer.
Reyes
Castillo
Beltran
Holliday/Bay
Wright
Delgado
F-Core
Molina
P
Johan
Sheets
Marquis
Pelfrey
Perez
Maine
Stokes
Parnell
Feliciano
K-Rod
Biemel
Pagan
Murphy
Cora
DeRosa/Hairston?
other catcher
that would be a good team….but if we did sign that japaneese pitcher Im sure he would take the place of Biemel in your plans….But I think that is a very good team
not sure if maine will go to the pen, wasn’t there talk of doing that and they eventually rejected it?
I think we did, so we can get 1 SP and 2 bullpen arms. It is still an upgrade.
We might need to sign one arm for the bullpen I agree, those guys are such a gamble, i really don’t know anything about the bullpen arms out there
and yeah we need one SP def. I am still hoping Omar pulls off a trade for a number 2 but who knows if anybody is on the block. If we aren’t doing that, signing a solid guy will def. help
The #2 I want is Sheets and the #3 is Marquis. But the thought of Maine to the pen’ is slim to none so I think we should get Sheets and get 2 BP arms like that Japan guy and maybe Biemel.
see the thing is Maine can be SO good when he’s healthy, he is going to turn out to be such an asset to the rotation, well that’s how I feel. He can be nasty when he’s on and i think he might be finally healthy.
Sheets would be a great addition, i hope Omar is on that. Marquis is good choice, I also like Pinerio, I think he might fit in well in the spacious citifield. If we already signed the Japanese guy we probably won’t be signing Biemel.
We agree on Maine, but couldn’t dissagree more on Pinerio. Unless he comes with Dave duncan I don’t trust him. He’s looking for too much money to be a rotation uncertantiy which we already hav in Ollie. The difference between him and Ollie is that Ollie has had some decent years without Dave Duncan and as far as I know Pineiro has not.
You guys may like this article
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/mets-offer-five-years-to-bay-will-pursue-holliday.html
I am a little torn on this issue on the one hand having a healthy Delgado would be great if a healthy Delgado is a 35 HR 100+ RBI guy, but what if a healthy Delgado is now a 18-23HR guy with 75 RBI or worse? The upside is there but there is a risk because we know that it is extremely rare for the mets to just release someone. Also I would like to know what we have in Murphy, Evans (if jerry feels so inclined to maybe let him touch a bat or glove), and Carter because if davis does what we all are hoping for and bursts on to the scene like a bat outa hell they become trade bait and if he falters or maybe still needs the first half of 2011 in AAA we need to know if we can live with one of those 3 there or if we need to look outside of the organization. Which leaves this decision as: Do you want to posibly Jeopordize 2011 by going with an unknown (Ike) then and relying on him, but in doing so get a guy who could for that one year be a big bat in the line-up, or do you want to establish what you’ve got know so that when Ike takes first base we have some back-ups that were familiar with? Its a tough call and I would wait and see what the rest of the offseason brings aswell as his contract demands. If Delgado’s willing to sign cheaply (with aditional insentives) and we look like were already in good shape and he could be that extra peice to push us over the edge, but if it looks like now where were gonna have to hav a pretty good run to just be in contention the I say save the money and see what you’ve got in Murphy, Evans, and Carter and hope for a little “metsie magic”.
I think even a healthy Delgado isn’t hat 35 Hr 100+ RBI guy then he will atleast be a 25 HR 80-90 RBI guy…..I mean his worse year in his career after his rookie and sophmore season was 2007 when he hit 27 HR and 80sumtin RBIs so I think its safe to say he will atleast hit 25 even if he doesnt do what he is capable of and I think it is realistic to think he can hit 33-38 HR on if he has a good year…..I would sign him to a one year deal
ANd I share the same concern about Davis….Although I hope he will be ready in 2011 but what if he is not? who will play first?
I think maybe delgado with a cheap 1 yr contract(4-6 Mill) will be good but how about even adding an option for 2011 at 5 mill?
I know that that is not a popular proposition but by the end of 2010 the Mets should have a really good idea if Davis will be ready for 2011 or not and if he is not then the Mets could just pick up Delgados option but if Davis is ready then the Mets could just not pick up the option but it will provide the Mets with flexibility
Any thoughts? like I said I know it is not a popular thought but I think it makes some sense
” but what if a healthy Delgado is now a 18-23HR guy with 75 RBI or worse?”
Who do we have ready right now or who is available to us right now that’s any better than this? Murphy hit 12 HRs last year.
Matt, you write: “but they’d like to explore other options first, if for no other reason that it’s an opportunity to change up the roster…”
Where’s the evidence they’re considering any other options? I’ve heard Murphy and/or Delgado.
what about Adrian Gonzalez? working out a deal for him is not entirely out of the question.
When the Red Sox are in the question, yes, we are out of it.
we can’t match the Sox package
That’s what she said?
Sign him to a 1 Year incentive laced deal to prove he’s healthy….
If he’s healthy come August and we are out of it, we can trade him for a low/mid level prospect or 2(like we shoulda done with Sheffield). Who knows sometimes low/mid level prospects can turn into 20/20 players. That way we aren’t losing anything for a Murphy platoon partner(I know lefty/lefty isnt a great platoon but Delgado should get more days off than he used too) and are possibly gaining some minor league depth if we fall out of contention