Mets OF Carlos Beltran issued a statement tonight, through his agent, Scott Boras, in response to today’s conference call with reporters, in which he said:
“I am totally surprised by the reaction to my recent knee surgery. Any accusations that I ignored or defied the team’s wishes are simply false. I also spoke to Omar Minaya about the surgery on Tuesday. He did not ask me to wait, or to get another doctor’s opinion. He just wished me well. No one from team raised any issue until Wednesday, after I was already in surgery. I do not know what else I could have done. The most important thing here is that the surgery was a total success and I expect to be back on the field playing the game I love sooner rather than later.”
…i am totally lost… i really have no idea what is going on… what i do know is, this is not good… more important, whomever dropped the ball has GOT TO BE held accountable… i mean, the Mets now seem to basically be in a he-said-she-said argument about the health and future of their best player… which is not good, for a whole host of reasons, the least of which is they need him in the lineup to win games…
…that said, i like beltran’s attittude, i trust he knows what is best for his body, and his career, and i really, really hope he gets back on the field, like he said, sooner than later…
Get well quickly and fully Carlos. Come back and kick some a**.
I’m with you. And on that note, the fact that he doesn’t seem mad at the Mets and that there’s a possibility he comes back and forgets this ever happened makes me more fired up for this season.
Geez, you just can’t make this stuff up!!!! Stranger than fiction I tell you!
I’ve defended this organization for 40 plus years. I’m really starting to lose my patience with the management this ownership group brings in year after year. They run the baseball team like a high school clique. GM, AGM, minor league VPs, medical staff. I’ve had it.
I don’t want to ask the question “can this get any worse?” because we usually find out.
excellent point pedro13 … i have absolutely no confidence in this management team to do whats right for the team … they will never get the benefit of the doubt anymore from me … i believe most of the problems with this organization begin and end with jeff wilpon.
the bottom line is he needed the surgery … he had the surgery and the mets should have just let it go at that.
Absolutely! or at the very least keep their displeasure under wraps untill they could fully digest the situation.
I feel like my mom just kissed me on the forehead and told me everything is going to be ok.
Beltran’s lips are probably thicker.
Just sayin’…
And with those comments Matt’s opening of the gates was officially a success. Welcome to the ranks gentlemen.
Also, Beltran is looking like he’s going to be a good value in the middle rounds of fantasy baseball drafts.
Could this be a simple case of 1 half of the Mets brain trust not communicationg with the other?……………AGAIN????? Sounds an awefull lot like Omar knew this was going down, and so did Jeff because he was with Omar,……..WTF????
I just for the life of me cannot understand the Mets being a multi-billion dollar franchise with all of the communication technology they have can allow something like this to go down! What a complete and utter lack of competence! WOW!
I’ve worked in organizations like this. You have a meeting. Everyone leaves and it’s like they were all in a different meeting. No “next steps” or takeaways are agreed upon.
I can just see it. Jeff looks at Omar with the “You’re the GM. You handle this.” Omar nods/shrugs. He then does not accurately loop in his press guys,etc.
This one falls directly and squarely on the GM. As far as I can guess, this could — and should — be the last straw.
100% agree with you ARTIE412 (and what Matt said). Someone needs to be held accountable, and if the Mets want to get back on the fans’ good graces they should can whoever’s fault this is and show us they mean business!
When do you take responsibility as an OWNER and draw the line. This is out of control, they need a complete overhaul in the front office. I think even the owners are well over their heads.
How in the world are you guys blaming Omar on this one? This looks like it is all on Ricco and or Jeff. Omar is with Jeff at the owner/GM meetings. If Omar talked to Beltran, he probably told Jeff and Jeff didn’t like the fact he was having surgery. Then he and Ricco decided that they wanted to do something.
I think they are trying to set Omar up to fire him for cause or something. Not exactly sure if there is any other excuse or reason that this could even happen.
At this point I don’t know what to think. This organization has a dark cloud over its head and lately they can do no right. My brain hurts.
docstraw, it’s not wrong to blame Omar. He is the leader. He cashes his paycheck.
If Omar is not strong enough to handle this situation, — and the many other management fiascos of the past few years — that simply proves the point that he should not be in this job.
I lost ONE job in my life, 30 years ago. I was editor of a magazine where things were getting out of control. I actually WARNED the Publisher. When I got called in to get let go, I told my boss, “But I warned you!” His answer “You didn’t warn me loud enough.”
It’s Omar. This is what the General Manager does. Manages the organization. Is Wilpon at fault? Of course. But as I stated, his biggest fault was sticking with a guy who has NOT gotten the job done.
I agree with you. It’s Omar’s Job to run the organization and when things get messed up he has to be held accountable. This whole thing could have been handled much better.
I thought it was amusing watching the mlb network last night and after they talked about Beltran they then spent about 5.3 seconds mentioning that Lidge had a knee operation and would miss the start of the season. No baffling press conferences, no blaming the player, just an announcement that a key player would miss a few weeks. Only the Mets could screw up like this this.
I hope that the fans don’t blame Beltran and/or get on him if he starts off slow. This guy has been huge for this team and deserves our support. It’s the brain trust that should feel our wrath!
just get healthy beltran asap we can hang in til may
what else is he gonna say?
He’s just doing some damage control, he got his knee surgery so he has nothing to lose and everything to gain by playing nice now. That being said, i wish him a speedy recovery.
wlaadair, Beltran has never been anything less than a consummate professioanl in his time as Met,, yet you’re accusing him of being a liar. Shame on you. There should be no dispute here. There is written documentation between the parties of the timeline which also included approval of Mets medical director as well as Mets filing the necessary insurance paperwork prior to surgery. I love the Mets and have for 4 decades, but there’s no question they are an ongoing mass of managerial, administrative, and communicative ineptitute.
Beltran should be called Mr. Glass, it seems that he is always hurt or playing at less than 100%. I feel ashamed and imbaressed to be a METS fan. Not because of the he-said, he-said stuff, but, because of the injury and DL bug. It seems like a big joke, and, its on us, the fans. First we had game 7 of 2006, then the big collapse of 07, the semi-collpase of 08 and the injury collpase of 09, that seems to keep going and going. For gods sake, enough is enough. Why did Beltran or the METS wait for this surgery? Why not have it done at the end of last season or before the season was over? Now we are starting out in 2010 behind the eight ball. This really is enough to drive a man to drink. We have to re-group and replace Beltran, act as if he is NOT going to be back. Then IF he does, it will just be a bonus. We cant start the season off feeling less than complete and playing at only 90%. It is a slap in the face of every METS fan.
i dont feel slapped in the face you might because your not thinking of the big picture you think that the season is won in the first two months of baseball the season is won when the team with the world series trophy is in their hands
So ie we fall 8 or 10 games behind and Beltran comes back we are in good shape? Im sorry my bad :} My point is, we just suffered throug a very long and painfull season full of injuries, and, spring trainning has not even started yet, and, we have one of our “key” players on the DL.
…substitute mess for mass and ya got it right on the head…
All I ask is that we field a “real” team with the best players we have and play a full season and then see what happens. I am sick of hearing how much better the Phillies are than the METS. I dont want to have excuses like injuries as a reason. I want to play them head to head our best against there best and see who comes out on top. Is that asking to much? I mean here we are not even at game one, and, we are without one of our big players. If we fall behind early and start off slow, will we all say its because we didnt have Beltran?
oh yeah the shame is on me, keep sipping the kool aid, hahhahha
just to add to that i wish he’d say i’m sure i’ll be back by and give a time which i realize probably wouldn’t be a good idea i just would have liked to hear when he plans to be back
Why does this always to the Mets???
because the mets have bad luck and bad luck always turns around
This just makes the Mets look very bad to say the least. Please know Carlos that we wish for your speedy recovery and look forward to your return to the lineup. Hang in there Carlos.
a third point would be, why did the mets open some sort of grievance or whatever it was with the players association if beltran had cleared it with them unless omar never did anything further then wish beltran well
Omar and Jeff were in another state,…..perhaps the folks in NY didn’t realize he’d been cleared to have the surgery?
The NY organization “didn’t know” he was cleared?
I admire your decency in giving them the benefit of the doubt, but this is 2010. I am on a commuter train hurtling in Manhattan at 50 mph typing on my handheld. Do you think Omar or Jeff or their watercarriers have a blackberry?
This was urgent news that needed to be conveyed down the command chain.
Omar blew it — again — and unless he has a damned good reason, he has to fall on his sword.
Artie, you don’t think that Omar told Jeff? They are together at the nOwner’s/GM meetings. I think he told Jeff and Jeff had a problem with it.
Let’s say you’re right, docstraw. Omar should resign. Period. Come out and say “I told Jeff, I told Ricco. They made the choice themselves to go public with the lie that Beltran did this on his own.”
Either way, Omar is at fault. He cashes his paycheck with no problem, as someone whose job it is to manage the organization. He is not managing it well. If it is the owner, he has the choice of leaving and telling his story.
It stinks. But even if Omar is only 75% at fault, he’s not strong enough to handle this job.
Lets just play ball, Im tired of this crap, who cares, when he’s ready to play he will be on the field, so lets just move on already.
I’m with you but this is NOT going away. Not for a while.
What dreamer said. I’m so exhausted from the constant drama I’m not mad at either “side” of this argument.
Get well Carlos and Lets Go Mets.
some one that makes sense(dreamer3kx) theirs nothing else to do but move on with the rest of this off season
LACK OF COMMUNICATION. Communication, business 101, cmon here. Absolutely ridiculous, it’s kiddie hour with the Mets. The Mets are embarassing. Geez
U said it!…………Wow, I’m going to need a few drinks to wrap my head around this one!
Embarrassing. Like I wrote in one of the Beltran threads this morning, this could very well be the “Joe Pisarcik” moment for this franchise, like the Giants had. When owners wake up to the snow job they have been handed and finally decide to clean house from top to bottom.
I am a Met fan, but I have to believe the boys across the River would never stand for this kind of behavior.
Heads should roll. But they probably won’t.
The boys across the river had the same thing happen when Pavano had surgery on his own and again when Giambi did. Met fans just love to cry, “oh why does this happen to us”?
Why are we so to believe Boris? If this were true, why would the Mets initiate the story? Bottom line is the guy had surgery…my question is since when does a world class athlete require 12 weeks recovery time for arthroscopic surgery?
I completely believe what Carlos is saying. Over the years he has proven himself to be a much more reliable source for truth than the New York Mets. Whatever the specifics, I think the Mets are trying to save themselves any embarrasment that might be caused by a nagging Beltran injury by making him the bad guy. I am sure that Beltran did everything by the book.
I understand why you would think that but could the Mets possibly be that stupid to aggravate their best player???? hmmm..well now that I think of it LOL
HAHAHA!
I believe him. And I believe Scott Boras, who (I am fairly certain) wrote that for him.
I believe him because the other side of this deal — the Mets, namely, Omar — has zero credibility anymore.
I honestly am not mad at Beltran. This medical staff on the other hand, has proven time and time again it’s inconsistencies through diagnosis. Your body is a temple, and most importantly you should take care of it. In this case, Beltran took the precautionary actions which may be beneficial to his career. I can’t hate on that.
maybe this is a blessing in disguise
haha i sure hope so
Matt:
The Mets seem to look bad again and again. Can I blame Jay Horwitz for that? Isn’t he the Mets’ PR person? Their image is just horrendous. They are an absolute laughing stock, and have been for so long. I know everyone likes Jay, but shouldn’t he be held accountable for all of these problems? That conference call today was a DISASTER.
Somebody darn well should be held accountable,………and while I would start with Jay,………he can’t make these guys communicate better, he’s paid to put out the fires when they don’t,………..frankly I think he ran out of water along time ago!
Think of it this way: the Mets look like this AFTER the PR guys have had their way with the situation. This front office must be even worse than we think.
It just friggin’ boogles the mind that this was allowed to happen!
Maybe a better PR guy would have taken better control of the situation. I feel bad criticizing a guy like this. But really, the Mets could not have a worse public image right now, and that’s kind of his deal. A smarter PR guy probably would have realized that no good could come of airing the dispute in public. And this is just the latest in a LOOOOOOONG string of bad PR decisions. Sorry, Jay.
You hit it on the head.
Having been a pr exec for 11 years,the rule is you can only disseminate info the client greenlights. In a dysfunctional organization, this can be a nightmare. That is what we have here.
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the info, Artie!
I am usually very optomistic and hopeful about the Mets. But someone needs to get canned for this awful display of mismanagement. Time after time this organization just screws up. Even the most basic of things turn into a cluster. It is just plain embarassing.
is steve philliphs still want to be mets gm?
I may be in the minority here, in fact I probably am but I can’t see how the Wilpons and John Ricco (who did the conference call) and even Omar would make claims like they have if it wasn’t true. While idk how much the Wilpons know about what they are doing here with the Mets but you don’t make the money they did have the success they had in the buisness world by making false claims against people you really cannot afford to alheinate. I don’t pretend to know what happened but I am not going now because of this press release suddenly believe that the FO is lying and Beltran had clearance all along
of course he did they just said that to make it interesting
Send in the clowns. WTF is going on?
Don’t bother. They’re here….
At this point they have to get Rick Ankiel and Hank Blalock to come in.
Neither will cost a ton and if nothing else provide depth when and if Carlos comes back and Murphy gets the ABs he needs. Pitching is another story.
this is pretty simple at this point.
Mets should just say everything is fine, all the confusion cleared up, Beltran will be back soon, and then move on and don’t mention it again.
Case closed.
too late for that. Papers have been filed… PAPERS!
For the life of me why do the Mets do this again and again? Why would they want to pick a fight, even if they are right? What do they gain by saying Beltran deceived them? Its unreal to me. All they had to do was release a statement that Beltran had surgery and that’s it. But they create a mess when a mess is not there. Are they being run by the executives of NBC…or is it vice versa?
None of us know what happened either way. The thing I’d like to say about this is that it’s a LONG season as we all experienced last year. If Carlos is out until May/mid-May I think we’ll be fine.
In terms of him going to get the surgery, no one get surgery because it’s “fun” or because they want to stop training. So I believe that the surgery was absolutely necessary, and wish him the best in his recovery & rehab process.
Now, let’s get down to some business, sign Molina & 2 SP.
Mets management is horrible. I don’t know what is going on or who is at fault but why are they airing their dirty laundry to the public? This should be kept in house, no one should know about this, it is something they need to work out with their doctors and Beltran.
Can the Wilpons please sell the team to Marc Cuban. TheMets management can get jobs as keystone cops.
Lmao. As soon as I read that my brain superimposed all their faces on the characters from Super Troopers. LOL.
you know you’re in trouble when you make scott boras look honest.
That may be the most incriminating post yet,…………and it’s true!
Guys….you can’t script this stuff.
Only the Mets can steal the spotlight this week based on an injury.
Unreal..
They were probably just getting upset that the Jets were getting so much press.
Bring back Sinjo to play center!
or maybe Jay Payton !
This organization never ceases to come up with new and exciting ways to screw things up. Always. I would love to say that these recent events have totally surprised me but, the sad thing is, they haven’t. It’s just another example, in a long line of events, that show the Mets organization is a complete joke – starting with it’s owners.
I love Beltran and believe he’s one of the hardest working players on this team. The guy gives his all and constantly gets critiqued and analyzed as a soft or not caring. I think that couldn’t be any farther from the truth. I really wanted to see Beltran retire as a Met but now, I’m not sure that will happen. Not unless the two sides can make up and someone can say “I’m sorry” first….oh, and that someone should be the Mets.
Nicky good post. The problem with the organization starts from the top… The owners…PERIOD.
Now i know what it feels like to be a Redskins fan.
This organization is an embarrassment.
They were ridiculed last year for their mishandling of injuries and are starting off 2010 in exactly the same way. They have learned nothing.
Total farking embarrassment!
You know things are bad when the words Mets and embarrassment have probably been in the same sentence on this blog well over 100 times today alone! What a freaking disaster!
We ARE the Pirates.
This organization continues to be a laughing stock. They can’t even get the little things rights. They fired a coach in the middle of the night. They tried to remove a former star players signature from Citifield (Doc Gooden). They let a concussed player travel on a plane (Ryan Church). They allowed a player, who’s career is in his legs, play through leg injuries instead of DLing him for 15 days and having him for the rest of the year. They continue to have a top five payroll and haven’t seen the world series since 2000, and only sniffed the playoffs once since then. An assistant GM challenged the team to be “men,” and allegedly ripped off his shirt (months later he is fired). A star players injured surgery becomes a fight between player and team. There is so much more but I can’t even bother to write it. I’m not sure how anyone could believe that this organization could produce a winning team when they cannot get even the smallest of off field decisions correct. They are the Redskins of the major leagues.
You can say teams like kansas city/ pittsburgh have it far worse, but they have no money to play with. To me the mets continue to be the worst organization in the league. But I am a die hard, so I will watch and hope, but I expect nothing from this GM/Coach and Owner.
Matt I love your ability to stay positive but it’s time to face facts. A clean sweep of this FO has to be made. If you can’t remove the owner get someone to run the everyday operations, and not someone in house. START OVER.
I agree and I’m sure that Matt agrees but he can’t say it. SNY is a subsidiary of the Mets and they sponsor MetsBlog.
When does it end…
Excellent Post. 100% agree.
I will not attend ONE game this season.
then go be someone elses fan i dont live in new york anymore but i would pay as much as i can to see a game in citi field with or without beltran u need to stop going with the crowd and really open your eyes to see why he did it
I’m not mad at Beltran, I am mad at this organization. I will watch the games on tv but will not attend another game until something changes in the front office.
I don’t think anyone here is mad at Beltran, and we all would probably have done the same thing in his situation. You have to look out for your own best interest, because the Mets obviously don’t have your best welfare in mind. They didn’t with Reyes or Santana, so why would they with you? That’s why we are upset! The Mets ought to care about their players and treat them better, and that’s gonna have something to do with players not wanting to come here, I know I wouldn’t. Something needs to change.
Just another example that this team needs some fresh blood in FO. I know this is easy to say but if I owned a pro sports team and my medical staff botched two injuries they’d be gone that’s it no second chances, that’s my investment my employees and the fans deserve better. But they didn’t botch two I can only name like
Chuurch 2x
Reyes 2x
Beltran 2x
Delgado
Wright
Santana
Ollie
Maine
That fact that they botched Jose twice is enough to get my blood boiling and now this!!! What would it take to get this guys fired? They misdiagnose a hang nail as a 60 day DL injury maybe a broken foot as meerly a contusion!!! Would anybody in world not be fired for screwing up this badly?
I wish Carlos a very speedy recovery but ake your time get healhy and lets stick it to the Sillies this year GO METS!!!
the qeustion is will his knee be able to hold up in cf when he comes back? thats why in a recent post i suggested we trade beltran for carl crawford. in that post my proposal was completely ridiculous as pointed out by other people (thx guys lol). if ur wondering how i would now propose it after i thought it over just ask and i’ll b glad 2 tell u how. but 4 now get beter carlos!
LET’S GO METS!
We’ve got a first class zoo right here in Queens! The inmates don’t talk to each other, but it doesn’t matter because the zoo keeper can’t put two sentences together. The motto “Same Old Mets” takes on new meaning. What a disgrace.
Lost in all of this is the remaining FA’s !!! How many guys are going to want to sign on when the CIRCUS is in town???? We haven’t even inked Molina yet,….what has he got to be thinking at this point??? Or Pineiro or Sheets even if the Mets were right (which the more I read I highly doubt it!) why in the world would you want to air this situation out in the press in the middle of an offseason??? Does that make sense??? Who’s running the show here???
Can we all just admit no one really knows the truth. It could very well be a matter of miscommunication. Maybe Matt is right and someone just dropped the ball here and it could be someone as simple as an assistant who didn’t relay the proper message. Thank being said this does look bad but in the end the right thing happened. He got a needed surgery a month and a half before spring training, he can now focus on rehab during the spring, and then hopefully be back on the field in late April or early May. I think Angel will be a fine replacement for him for 4 weeks of the season and if this ends up being a season long thing they can reevaluate their situation then. For now a lineup of Jose, Luis, Wright, Bay, Murphy, Francouer, Molina, Pagan. Then in May we can slot Carlos in the 4 spot. I do think that this may make them look really hard at Delgado again to get some Lefty power in the lineup. I dunno we’ll see. Just get back Carlos B. We need ya.
in the absence of beltran, I would like to see this lineup:
castillo 2b
pagan cf
reyes ss
wright 3b
bay lf
murphy 1b
francouer rf
molina c
pagan
reyes
wright
bay
blalock
f-core
hudson
molina
We don’t know who is to blame? You are right, but the fact that these situations keep coming up with the NEW YORK METS front office seems to indicate they may be at fault.
Angel Pagan is a fine backup? If you say so. I saw a guy who had very limited baseball knowledge. Ran the team out of many an inning and who’s stats were adequate at best.
Without Beltran their lineup has very little power at this point in the offseason (the operative words being “at this point”). Bay /Wright/ Francouer probably get a combined 75 but i have no faith that bringing in a 35 year old catcher to a ginormous stadium helps those stats at all.
Still the point is these constant hiccups, with what should be minor offseason moves turn out to be land mines. Messing up a surgery situation, firing a guy in the middle of the night, playing players who are not ready, scream of an organization that has absolutely no clue how to run itself.
Not for nothing, but that stadium that the 35 year old catcher used to play in was pretty ginormous in it’s own right,….and he hit 20 HR’s there,……..Oh did I mention he did it in a lineup with less protection in the lineup than the Mets had most of ’09. I’m not saying Molina is the second coming or anything, but to infer that Molina can’t hit it out of Citi after hitting that many in a park just as big,..if not a tad bigger is just silly. That said we’re in agreement this organization is clueless!
Lets not get into a pissing contest but At&t is actually 335 in left and 364 to left center, where as Citi is 335 to left and 371 to left center. So really citi is slightly bigger. But what makes it even harder to hit home runs at is the monstrous wall that has no business being up in left. That said you’re right Molina would probably hit 15-20 but is it worth it with a 280 obp?
And again the point was simply this organization cannot handle the smallest of issues, there is no reason to think they could handle putting a winning product on the field.
What are the options after Molina ??? really there is not much!
The thing is though, that if it was just a miscommunication, then why air it out to the public, have conference calls accusing a star of doing something behind their backs, and file a grievance. So if it was just a simple miscommunication, then in typical Mets FO fashion, they turned it into a circus
i trust beltran’s judgment of his health more than i trust the mets training staff…
At this point I’d rather have Dr. Dre, Dr. Pepper, Dr. Suess, Doogie Howser and House take over the Med Staff.
I do I do see a hurt knee
Listen to me and get the surgery
Concusion Concusion
Whats the confusion?
Oh well get well soon Carlos gonna miss that glove!!!
I was so happy to hear that Omar was not going to be handling the conference call. He does not have a grasp on the English language, much less reality. It just went straight downhill from there. Tremendous embarrassment. The organization makes it hard to be fans. I can’t understand how Beltran spoke to Omar and Omar didn’t tell ANYBODY. Not any of the Wilpons, even the one he was with. Not Ricco. Not anybody. This should have been handled in-house. Un-freaking-believable.
I’d be willing to bet the Wilpon that Omar was with knew about the surgery, the fact that the teams multimillion dollar CF was going to be undergoing surgery is not something even Omar would fail to tell Jeff Wilpon, they were in the same meeting for crying out loud………however, I gotta feeling the folks in NY didn’t get the message! What a mess!
if its hard to be a fan then dont because not matter what ill be a met fan till i die
I haven’t drank enough yet for that sentence to make total sense,……but yea I get what you mean! lol
The fact that these public relations blunders can happen over and over to Mets is absolutely insane. Is Jeff Wilpon held accountable to anyone?
I cant believe Omar didnt tell Ricco and ownership IF he know, Im starting to believe Omar should go, Ricco should be the lone GM, Omar just lacks communication with everyone, feels like he’s doing his own thing, I dont know, lets just play ball, Ill be a Met fan through think and thin, nothing will change, LETS GO METS!!!!
if some of you people cant stand behind beltran and the mets for one thing that we will all forget when he returns then go be phillie fan because we dont need the negativity right now
That made no sense honestly. We are just stating our opinions, that’s what this blog is here for. It’s not our fault there was a communication breakdown between the Mets and the medical staff. They did this to themselves.
that made perfect sense its just if you guys cant stand behind the mets for one obstacle then yo dont know how to be a baseball fan.
The fans need to stand up at some point and say enough is enough. If you honestly aren’t frustrated right now with this organization, then YOU need to open your eyes, because you are clueless. I will always be a Mets fan. You will always be the yuppie who pours his money into the team no matter how poorly the team is run. I won’t be that foolish.
anything will look bad at this point, they could say anything and it would be twisted all around. This whole thing looks bad and I really can’t say I think one side looks worse than the other, I think they both look bad.
I think the biggest issue here is PR, plenty of teams have issues and disconnects but they don’t become a public mockery.
and again I say, i don’t see how the FO would make a choice to start this public war between sides if the knew all along he was getting the surgery and had no issue with it. I love Carlos Beltran but I have to wonder what was going on in his head to just have the surgery and inform the team after it was over. He had to have known it would create a mess and there are other people in this situation besides him. I am not saying he shouldn’t get the surgery but i’m sure there was a better way to handle this than going off and doing it behind their backs.
The FO may have issues, who doesn’t but they are still buisnessmen with a lot of time and money invested into this company, they do not do things to make the entire fan base mad and look ridiculous. Nobody is making a choice to look bad publicly. I can’t understand why people make that claim. Things look bad but imo that is their PR guy and they need to get a whole new PR firm to deal with stuff like this,
What part of ” I spoke with Omar on Tuesday about the surgery, he did not ask me to wait, or get a 3rd opinion, he just wished me well” do you not understand? Omar knew, Jeff Wilpon had to have known because he was with Omar in another state at the owners meetings somehow, someway the folks in NY were obviously not in the loop. Beltran has little reason to lie, even if he did it without getting the 3rd opinion it was still his right to do so. The Mets flat out botched it!
Get well soon Carlos, waiting on the Mets you probably would’ve been playing till you couldn’t walk anymore then say you never mentioned you had pain and been out the following 2 yrs trying to walk again. The medical staff needs to go, horrible trainers that have no business on a professional team. Mets, shame on you for even letting this get out to the media and not being professional and handling this in-house. I am embarrassed to even wear my Mets gear outside now.
I’m with ya Big Lou, I had to don a different jacket to go out this evening! Freaking embarrassing!
This organization is a mess. A fish rots from the head. As long as the Wilpons are in charge this is the kind of circus we will have to get used to. It’s unfortunate because this fan base and the players deserve better.
This is gut wrenching Beltrans statement if those are his words I beleive him and distrust our FO. Having said that they apear to have come out of Scot Boras’s mouth which gives me pause I dont trust our FO and certainly dont trust Boras.
*ROLLS EYES* This organization is plain out EMBARRASSING! I’m embarrassed to be a Mets fan. We should all write letters to ownership expressing this. You know how to fix this? People need to be fired. Not just firing for the sake of the press or the fans, but the incompetent people should be fired. First order of business… Lock down the organization. You know all the “sources say…” YOU’RE FIRED! Next hire an image consultant. I don’t know if the organization even cares that they are a laughing stock. Third, hire someone to talk to the press. Isn’t that the PR guy’s job? What the heck is Jay Horowitz job? It certainly isn’t PR. If it is, YOU’RE FIRED! No one should talk to the press, especially Omar. He just sticks his foot into his mouth. Most of the talking should be through PR. If someone else must talk to the press, they should be prepped by PR on what to say and not to say beforehand!
Enough ranting..
Peace!
Sombodys got to go. Our crediability is zero with fA and with the players on our team. At first I was made at Beltran but then I thoght about how the miss handled Reyes injury and I dont blame him for getting the surgery. And it appears he may have gotten approval and they make him out to be something he’s not. We need a major shake up.
everything that comes out of this front office is just a mess,spiraling downhill and won’t get any better with the present front office personell in place.at least Steve Phillips,with all his pesonal problems had some professionalism.since Omar arrived,everything has been FUBAR.think about it.
Obviously Borass wrote that, Not to be funny but Beltran isnt the type to say “I am totally surprised by the reaction to my recent knee surgery.” If you hear him in news conferences and videos you would see theres not ONCE he ever said totally, With that said, I hope he just comes back and hits..
Wow, that is a good way to judge if Carlos really gave that statement or not.
The key thing in the statement is that he said he told Omar on Tuesday he was getting the surgery and Omar wished him well. Why in the world would he lie? And why would he allow Boras to make a statement with lies in it?
Im sure he was advised a bit on what to say but he is not lieing about the Omar part of the statement.
I never onced tried to say he was lying, All I was saying is that Boras made that statement for Carlos.
All I really care about is that Beltran gets better. Even if it takes him to may or June, a 100% healthy beltran is a top 10 player.
A few points:
1. Why would any FA sign with the Mets now? Other than a lack of any other offers, or MUCH better money, of course. Who wants to put themselves into a chaotic situation?
2. The Mets may be forced to make any improvements via trade, if they want to get any quality players. And the other teams will know that and suck them dry.
3. Why is this public? Jay Horwitz should be fired immediately…things like this have been going on for too long.
4. Ultimately, I think this comes down to Jeff Wilpon.
Clarifying point #4: If Jeff Wilpon isn´t the cause of these ongoing problems, he should have been the solution. Either way, the buck stops with him.
So is this an Omar mess up here?
Yes.
….halliday gave the phils a discount by signing a shorter contract…he wants to win a world series…WTF…who would give us a discount for any reason unless the are a huge fan of drama or comedy…i am beginning to think that they feel they are going to fill the stadium for the next few years anyway so they dont really care…its all business and winning is secondary…all the so called ‘analysts’, etc. on espn or whatever snicker whenever they mention the team and it makes me wanna cringe…why do i care so much…
Halliday wanted desparately to train on the west coast of florida–a few miles from his home. If the mets had their facility there it’s likely halladay would be with the mets now.
“…that said, i like beltran’s attittude,”
Matt, you have to realize this was purely from Boras. He wrote the statement, he knows what he’s doing (and exactly what every fan wants to hear to make Beltran look innocent and favorable).
I’m not saying that Beltran disagrees with any of it, but I can tell a nicely written PR statement when I see one.
What Beltran probably wanted to say had a lot of 4 letter words in it.
I’m just glad Omar didn’t do the conference call yesterday, or he would have blamed Adam Rubin for Beltran’s knee problems.
I’m truely amazed that the Mets always seem to come out looking like total morons. The obviously knew he had the consult. I read that he was being treated by Alcheck with the old Mets standby, cortisone and rest for the last month before Beltran finally said screw it, I’m taking matters into my own hands.
I long for the day that there is a player that has an injury, it gets treated properly, the player gets back soon and the front office doesn’t look like a bunch of complete inept 5 year olds running a baseball team.
What is really frustrating is that when you really dislike your team, you can scream for the players, managers or GM to be changed. When you really dislike your team’s ownership, you either have to suck it up, or find a new team.
Lately, and somewhat shockingly to me, the find a new team route has started to become appealing. I would never become a Yankee fan, of course, but this stuff is getting hard to deal with. I could deal with injuries, bad contracts (Perez, Castillo) and even a bad GM – knowing that it’s always temporary. But bad ownership, that you have little faith is competent enough to get things right? What do you do?
Teams I like because I think they get it: Red Sox because I was a huge Yaz fan growing up and they are the Yankees rivals; Cardinals, because I have a ton of respect for Pujols.
I hate all NL east teams.
I could care less about all other MLB teams.
Not that I would follow them forever, but I think the 2010 Mariners will be fun to watch. If the Mets dig themselves into a hole with no way out, I think I will follow them. I love good pitching. Seattle has it. The Mets ignore it
It’s “whoever” dropped the ball, not “whomever.” Whom, and therefore whomever, is the object form of the word where whoever is the subject. The person dropping the ball, in this case “whoever” is the subject of the verb “dropped.”
Strunk and White’s Elements of Style. It’s a great book to use to learn this wonderful language of ours. I wouldn’t suggest this if you were in a business where communication and language weren’t essential. But you call yourself a writer (and have many times) so please learn basic grammar.
They need you in the front office!
It’s a sports blog, not a college text book. If you have issue with Matt’s grammar and wish to be constructive (and helpful), try emailing him at mattcerrone@gmail.com. My opinion, by airing this publically, is that you are chastising him.
Maybe you’re right. Maybe I should keep it between us.
But I do take issue with you on the notion that it’s “just a sports blog,” because anytime you set out to put thought to words for public consumption, be it an essay, a story or a blog, unless you are tapping into a vernacular for effect, you ought to use grammar properly.
Saying it’s just a sports blog reinforces a stereotype that jocks and their fans are meatheads.
Agreed.
This is a case of Scott Boras doing damage control. Get well Carlos soon !!
How about you leave and never come back to this blog? We won’t miss you, trust me.
At some point, even the Wilpons wil have to realize that they need to sacrifice a virgin into the volcano.
I actually think they brought Omar back since they knew there would be some unpopular decisions or moves made int he off season (not signing Lackey say), and they wanted the built in scape goat.
If that is the case, then boom. Blame to confusion and lack of communication (heck, the entire culture of handling injuries) on Omar, and send him on his way.
Hopefully one of the other kinda-GMs in the FO cna step up and straighten out the operation, but I guess that requires the owners being willing to let that happen (and maybe Jeffy having to find another hobby).
Also, did anyone ever figure out exactly what Beltran had done? Why the 8-12 weeks before any BB activities?
Lidge had a scope job the same day, removing foreign bodies and part of his meniscus, and will be throwing within 10 days, and hopes to be back for opening day.
From ESPN.com:
Steadman recommended surgery and operated on Beltran on Wednesday, removing cartilage fragments and inflammation, and shaving bone spurs.
Any time you are dealing with shaving bone – there is a delay in recovery. Having been scoped myself several times – and then 10 years ago had the knee replaced – arthritis is NOT an easy thing to deal with. Give the guy a chance to heal and get ready for the season.
This is just another public relations disaster for the team – but let’s not lose sight of the fact that there is a player involved here who needs to heal.
I agree. This is, once again, on Omar for having a lack of integrity and intellectual capacity. And, on the Wilpons for allowing this garbage to continue under their roof.
Omar knew about the surgery and wished him well, Ricco talked on a conference call and said the team asked him to wait. Omar and Jeff are not on the call.
What are these guys doing?
Amazing. This was a telephone conference call, not a press conference (in person). why couldn’t Omar or Jeff (or both) be on the call?
I know the story was they were traveling, but the story broke the night before, and the conference call was over 12 hours later. They’re not traveling for 12 hours.
Pathetic. Lame. The New York Mets.
Maybe they wanted to put Ricco out there as a sacrificial lamb?
You hit it right on the head! and why wait untill 2 o’clock in the afternoon to have the call? Seems to me if they knew exactly what happened and knew they were in the right, that conference call would have been a heck of alot sooner. That said, who’s bright idea was it to pick a fight with Carlos Beltran in the ny media in the middle of an offseason???? You’ve got to be kidding me! Complete Bafoons!
I was listening to Colin Cowherd and he said the Mets are just a victim of mismanagement. I really think it needs to start at the top with Fred. Isn’t there a difference between managing a business and a sports team? When Jeff starts talking about putting a product on the field, I think he’s missed the point.
I agree. It starts at the top. It always seems like the Mets front office are not on the same, and that people are left out of the loop who should not be. It does not seem like there are reporting lines. You would think something like your GM talking to your star CF about surgery the next day would get communicated immediately to the rest of the organization.
I really can’t wait to hear what Omar has to say about this whole thing.
Adma Rubin, what have you done now?
Adma? lol thanks I needed that!
Well yes I did talk to Beltran on Tuesday, and you know,….I wished him well, you know,…………..how’d I do? lol
Then I went for Bagles and Mets fan say, and you know, …. hey Omar fix the bullpen, and you know, so I fix the bullpen.
I’m just hoping that the drop in attendence this year will finally signal to these mental midgets that they need to shake up the entire organization, from clubbies to front office to public relation to the marketing team. Everything about it is a joke.
I’m leaning towards picking a random American League team and rooting for them.
I know the Wilpns admired Branch Rickey and the Brooklyn Dodgers. Remember, “Branch Rickey would have rather had a second place team since he didn’t have to pay his players as much, but could still rely on a good gate,”
That was a quote from Hank Greenberg.
I am telling you, this IS their business plan. Spend a few bucks. Get an interesting team. Keep it close. But don’t go overboard trying to win anything, since everyone will want a raise after they win.
Where is Cuban when you need him?
Memo to the Wilpons:
Sell the team, you do not know what you are doing.
I would honestly give the tip of my left pinky to see Cuban buy the team from the Wilpons. That would be the greatest thing in the world.
Will never happen. Baseball money is too lucrative. Also, it’s a old timers club. Owners are very tight knit. They won’t have anyone rock the boat like Cuban.
This is why blogs are so fun to read! Some want to find a new team….some want to fire the GM, some blame the owners and some say Beltran is made of glass! Clearly there was a disconnect and the team should take a hit for this. The sky is not falling and I’m going to focus on the team. We won’t ever know what really happened or who is really at fault, but this will blow over.
Assuming Molina and Delgado, the team should be able to withstand Beltran’s injury. They will put a .300 hitter out there to replace him for a few months. The AL lineup will be murder to get through and pitchers will fear the Mets. With Niese waiting, 2 of Pelf, Maine, Ollie only need to repeat what they have already done. There will be salary dumps prior to July 31 so a # 2 will be available.
In addition, with Ike and Havens, FMart, Thole and promising young pitching at AA, the future looks good. They may end up with a home grown infield, catcher and Bay, Beltran and Frenchy/FMart in the OF. Vets in their prime, some young affordable players not being blocked, and money to spend for FA pitching next year. They are positioned very well for the present and future. Oh wait, fire Omar and Ricco, the sky is falling.
Seriously folks, I love my Mets. But right now, as a franchise, I think that the Mets could screw up a bowl of Wheaties. I also have a ton of respect for Jay Horowitz, but from a PR standpoint he must be a mere figurehead with no say in what gets out to the media. Mets organization? To associate the word organization with the Mets right now is baloney.
It’s almost like we try our best, to look very dumb and incapable of handling anything in the media…or even how to best take care of our own players. And I thought all those injuries last year was just freak luck…silly me.