Anthony DiComo of MLB.com says the Mets and John Maine avoided arbitration and have agreed to a one-year contract.
DiComo says Maine and the Mets agreed to terms shortly after he filed for arbitration today and according to the Associated Press his deal is worth $3.3 million guaranteed and can earn an additional $225,000 in performance bonuses based on starts.
…hat tip to Mets09ws for the link…
…on a side note, i think its great we are seeing more and more contracts these days get signed where the player can earn more money based on milestones they reach during the season… not that i want to see a guy get hurt or worsen a problem, but i think these incentives may give them a reason to play through a minor injury, whereas if it’s a set dollar value, a player might be less inclined to play through it…
Pedro Feliciano, Jeff Francoeur, Sean Green and Angel Pagan all filed for arbitration today.
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Good.
He probably wouldn’t have made much in arbitration, would he? The past two seasons have been anything but solid…
Can John Maine just stay healthy for a whole season? He has the stuff, but his durability is at question.
Unfortunately, rolled into that is the question of whether or not the Mets medical staff can keep him healthy
id guess between 2.6 mil-4mil
bold predictions:
john maine: 16-9 3.86 ERA
mike pelfrey: 17-10 3.51 ERA
oliver perez: 14-9 3.99 ERA
I hope…..
Ill take that all the way to the bank! Those are certainly BOLD predictions! personally I think something around 15-10 with around a 3.6 – 3.9 ERA is reasonable for all three.
I agree, they are all capable of putting those numbers and we need all 3 to finally step up and reach their potential.
Your lips to the big man’s ears.
Interesting – you’re predicting career highs from two out of the three, and a tremendous bounce back season from the other. I hope you’re right.
To be fair, Pelfrey really should have a career year every year for two or three right? Given his lack of a real career to..top.
I think the Mets, and Maine, have learned a lot about his durability, and I think (hope, as it’s very obvious they need to rest him more.) they can keep him healthy by not overworking him and resting him where they can.
well, all 3 have the stuff to do it, pelfrey just needs to trust his stuff and with better defense he should be fine, maine needs to stay healthy and stop worrying too much on the mound and just pitch and ollie just needs to get back in good shape, he was throwing 88MPH last year and that just wont do it, he needs his plus fastball to be effective because he doesnt locate it well.
i dont think maine and pelfrey both win that much.
more likely
maine: 13-9 4.20 era
pelfrey 15-10 3.80era
perez 13-9 4.30 era
I have to agree but, not because they don’t have the stuff to win more. Ollie and Maine rarely go more than 6 innings and I’d bet there will be a bunch of no-decisions for both of them.
If that happens, coupled with what should be a healthy, hence vintage Santana(18-20 wins), and a strong showing from Niese(10-12 wins), damn. At least 75 wins from the starters and say another 20(too aggressive?) from the bullpen.
I have to stop before I get too optimistic and all the pessimists around here call me names.
lol..you wont see me post too many negative comments, some fans just feel the need to complain about everything, IDK why. I always think positive…
r u kidding me if that was possible you might just say the mets are gonna win the world series. can any1 stay healthy? they are all .500 pitchers till then
hey, they are just my predictions, you dont have to agree with them, but they are not as impossible as they seem if they all stay healthy.
hey from your mouth to Gods ears lets go mets but that is too many ifs. u know maine has the best stuff ive seen of the 3 but all have talent, just too many ifs
25 decisions for Maine? Unlikely. He averages less than 6 innings per start. I would be happy with 20 decisions and at least 12
wins. Same with Perez. He is coming back fro knee surgery. Pelf?
He has the stuff to go deep, 25-27 decisions.
Agreed. Between Maine & Perez’ inability to make it past 5 or 6 innings, and Snoop Dog’s propensity to make every game like the ninth inning of Game 7 (shuffling the lefty/righty out of the pen per batter)….these two just won’t be around long enough to GET decisions.
Maine went 16-10 in ‘07 before the injuries. What are you basing your statement on?
My expectations are for them all to improve and especially do better than last season. Perez is a year removed from the WBC and hopefully what he did down in Arizona helped him and it’ll show in his performance.
I think Pelfrey is the guy that could possibly benefit the most from Molina, who seemed to have anxiety attacks out on the mound from time to time.
If Maine’s healthy, I see him showing the most improvement. But hey it’ll be pretty interesting to see who does take a step in the right direction.
We need to get a 2nd basemen who can move more than 8ft in any direction though!
The “I hope” part makes it seem not so bold. I say 2 of the 3 happens though, being a pessimistic Mets fan, although not as pessimistic as usual!
They are bold predictions. I can’t see Perez with that many victories – he is way too inconsistent. If there was a way to ship him somewhere…
Perez won 15 in ‘07, so it is possible,………..probable???…….we’ll see about that.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/01/15/arbitration.deadline.ap/index.html?eref=twitter_feed
say maine agreed to 3.3 mil +225 k in incentives
Rumor is, Sean Green is asking for $1MM for every unique way he found to lose a game last season.
that would break records no one player is worth that much money
~1 mil in total is about right for him
Lol yea he hit batters, threw wild pitches, walked batters on 4 pitches to lose. Hes a bum
Dan Warthen needs to get Maine his rest. As much as I didn’t like Rick Peterson, I think he knew how to keep Maine on the field. If healthy, I think Maine can easily win 15 games. And at 3.3mil, you cant beat it.
Santana and Maine and three days of rain . . . .
We really need a guy who can eat up innings – there is NO WAY this is a winning staff. Once again too many “ifs” and too many “??”.
Huh? Before Maine was injured, in ‘07 he averaged 6 innings per game (btw, in ‘08 with the Mets, Santana didn’t even avg 7 innings per game), and was 16-10 with a 3.91 ERA. How can anyone possibly think that this kid is bad when he IS COMING OFF OF AN ARM INJURY?!!! That boggles my mind.
As far as Perez goes, we all know that he can be inconsistent at times, but he too has been playing through injury. If you look at his ‘07 season, he averaged a little over 6 innings per game and was 15-10 with a 3.56 ERA.
I can understand the apprehension at putting absolute faith into these two reverting completely back to playing the way they did before injury. I get it. But now that the two are healthy, it is absurd to say that “there is no way this is a winning staff.” THEY HAVE WON BEFORE!!!
The one thing that I have learned since beginning to read this blog a few years ago is that Met fans are the most unrealistic and ridiculous fans out there. They never accept reality, and are always looking for more. They are Yankee-fans-lite. I would never suggest accepting mediocrity, but the Mets have a staff of potential stars. They are young, talented, and COMING BACK FROM INJURY. Before we go wishing that the FO make ridiculous moves like signing Doug Davis(?) or trading away valuable pieces for Bronson Arroyo(?), stop and think f for a minute.
Maine for 15 W’s, let’s do it!
Good to see something positive for a change. So what’s the Molina deal hold up? Still hammering out how many donuts per week he’ll get in his contract?
Molina still has the chicken leg stuck in his mouth, …………..after calling Beltran and squashing the beef, Minaya reported headed to Molina’s place to remove said chicken……….film at II! lol
As long as Minaya isn’t required to talk, I think he can remove that chicken leg safely! lol
As long as he can keep Jeff Wilpon out of the room he should be able to manage it!
Hey the Molina deal is getting closer, and closer, and closer… yes – they should offer a dozen donuts for incentive — he would have signed already.
I think Maine if he stays healthy along with Pelfrey will have good a good year
I think that’s a big if. But I’ll go ahead and dream with you. I’m tired of thinking realistically, I’ll just hope for the best.
This is why we need a FA who is durable like a garlan or a trade for Arroyo to many question marks in the rotation. OBTW it feels grat to be talking baseball and not the nonsenes of the last two days.
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this guys hammered…..haha
Problem: We need a #2 starter.
Solution: LIMA TIMMMMMMMEEEEE!!!!!!
Lol riiight.. jesus, that 2006 was soo good offensively that even lima pitched wit us and we were still ablt to reach the nlcs..
3.1 million for a 5 inning guy.. oh why did I stop playing baseball….
…or 36 Million for a no-inning guy !!!!!
Stop the madness!
3.1 for a guy who can get you 15+ wins and pitches to an ERA under 4. Thats 3.1 million for a potential star.
I’d like to see Vegas post odds on that combination
I’ll take that bet. Don’t forget, Maine is now 29 and in his walk year. Elbow and shoulder are supposedly fine. That equation reads, to me, like a slam dunk.
I do not buy the walk year arguement. That he’s healthy I will. Before I lay money down on a 15 win under 4 ERA, I want to see him get through the fifth in under 90 pitches
You may be right. Again, though, if he returns to his pre-injury form, Maine puts out an avg of 6 innings per start, 8 hits and under 4 walks per 9 innings. That leads me to the conclusion that he will be relatively proficient, and given the offensive potential, highly successful.
walk yr? maine is under team control thru the 2011 season
for the same reason i did, i wasn’t that good.
ADAM RUBIN FOR GM!!! ;)
Mets need strong leadership with a plan.
Just look at the NY Jets.
Two very different sports.
Cap vs no cap
NFL teams building through the draft fair better than teams signing free agents
MLB teams can buy a pennant. NFL teams cannot not
NFL teams run a system. MLB teams are a group of individuals
The NFL can cut their mistakes. MLB has to keep paying them.
All excellent points! AC
Mr Agee;
Your points cannot be argued.
But my offering was in response to an article in the Post today about the new attitude of the Jet players with the introduction of
a) a team plan
b) an attitude that we can, and we expect, to WIN, in the clubhouse.
Your points are the type of “excuses” I’m sure our players use while lining up for the DL.
I still agree we need a better plan. MLB punishes you more for poor decisions than the NFL. Just an opinion. I think its more or less a FA thing. NFL guy signs a 7 year-100 milliion dollar deal, and no one expects him to finish it. The real hits are signing bonuses (averaged out over the contract) and salary for years he plays. Maybe in three years you cut the guy cause a rookie comes out of nowhere and takes his spot. You save money by not having to pay the last four years of salary. You still pay the prorated signing bonus, but at least salary is freed. MLB – You’re stuck for all 7 years, and probably don’t have the guts to sit him.
Omar has made a few good signings, but he’s also made a couple that have left me shaking my head. Castillo & Perez were signings where we had no competition and we are stuck for two more years with each. And I never understood Scott Schoenweis.
Probably why NFL is more fun to watch than the MLB.
No, it’s because the NFL plays only once a week. If there was only one baseball game per week, it’d be a lot more exciting as well. To me the NFL is getting progressively worse while the MLB is on the rise again. Roger Goodell is ruining the game with his outrageous fines and sissy QB rules. Not to mention as it stands right now there will be no football in 2011 because people involved with the game are too stupid and greedy…
And this is coming from an NFL fan who has seen his team win two super bowls in the last four years.
Sorry to change the subject, but I think everyone is overreacting on the Carlos Beltran situation a bit.
I know it was bad communication and all, but who really cares?
Rodriguez came back last year at around the same date as Beltran is expected to come back on and they ended up winning a World Series. Do I think the Mets are going to win the series? no. But I still think they will do fine and probably make the playoffs.
So, even if there was “bad communication”, he will be back really quick rather than if we waited for a second opinion he might be out a month later.
I agree about the whole thing being blown out of proportion. I will disagree with you, as well as probably 90% of the people on this site, on the WS comment though. This team, with the addition of Molina, and the rotation as currently constituted, is a WS caliber team.
By the way, my predictions for Pelfrey, Maine, Niese, Perez, and Santana:
Pitcher W/L ERA
Pelfrey: 16-11 3.89
Maine: 13-8 4.11
Niese: 8-5 4.02
Perez: 4-8 5.84
Santana 18-9 2.97
you are very hopeful. Nice optimism!
He’s got Perez winning four games, Niese having to be our #5 (meaning we DIDN’T acquire another SP), and you’re calling him hopeful? I hope I was missing the sarcasm here…
Perez 4-8!!?? No way.. he’s a lefty, wit a live arm and great upside.. that’s why he was signed to a 3 year36 million deal..
He was signed to a 3-year, $36MM deal because Omar got fooled into bidding against himself…partly because of the fans and the media cursing him for not signing someone fast enough. You saw it again this season as well when Bay and Holliday were both holding out for more money, the fans and media all made it seem like Omar was not trying at all and that he was never going to sign anybody.
Not that it was entirely the fault of the fans and media, because it wasn’t…still shouldn’t have given him that contract. However, you can also thank the Yankees and Braves for shelling out ridiculous contracts to their pitchers as well…
niese going to be in triple a to start season since we will sign a sp before april
This is obviously just an act of good faith by the Mets to try and motivate John Maine. Had they taken the case to arbitration, they would have won because Maine has done nothing the past two years. This is just to show him they believe in him still. Hopefully it works.
Another thing this shows is that Jon Niese is now likely to start the season in AAA. Maybe that’s good, maybe it’s not. I think Niese has at least earned a chance to battle for the spot, but who can complain about giving a 22 year old more time to sharpen his pitches and come back from injury?
I still think the Mets are going to sign Pineiro and Molina. My guess is that (once again) everything is going on behind closed doors, and it will seemingly come out of nowhere like the Jason Bay deal did. If so, that gives us a decent rotation and upgrades our offense (Beltran or no Beltran) quite a bit.
My predictions all-around:
Santana: 19-5, 2.85 ERA
Pineiro: 16-9, 3.75 ERA
Pelfrey: 16-10, 3.90 ERA
Perez: 15-10, 4.10 ERA
Maine: 13-7, 4.35 ERA
Reyes: .295 avg, 9 HR, 40 2B, 20 3B, 65 RBI, 65 SB (GG, AS)
Castillo: .285 avg, 1 HR, 10 2B, 1 3B, 45 RBI, 20 SB
Wright: .325 avg, 21 HR, 40 2B, 115 RBI, 30 SB (GG, SS, AS)
*Beltran: .280 avg, 15 HR, 30 2B, 90 RBI, 15 SB (GG)
Bay: .285 avg, 32 HR, 30 2B, 110 RBI (SS)
Francoeur: .295 avg, 20 HR, 35 2B, 90 RBI
Molina: .275 avg, 17 HR, 25 2B, 85 RBI
Murphy: .290 avg, 15 HR, 40 2B, 60 RBI
(*Once healthy in May)
Your way too high on the rotation. If we get those kinda era’s and wins then were no doubt making the playoffs. Hope your Right!
With a healthy team we are going to score a bunch of runs. Even without Beltran for a month, we should be okay. My numbers on Perez are a bit high, but I’m hoping he returns to his 2007 form. Pelfrey will rebound, you watch. He was a head case last year because he was our ace for half the season, and he clearly wasn’t even ready to be our #2. I got him at 16 wins because he can go deep into a lot of games. If he can win 10 games with a AAA lineup, I think he can finally reach his potential with a healthy lineup and the additions of Bay and Molina.
Don’t forget, our ballpark can make mediocre pitching look really good a lot of times, as long as we don’t walk guys. Pound the zone, trust your stuff, and let your defense do the rest. That’s how you put yourself and your team in position to win games. That’s what Ollie and Pelf did two years ago when Warthen took over. Last season was a fluke.
Man i really hope your right. i love how your staying positive. I am trying to stay optimistic about this season but its tough when there’s bad news flowing out of the organization almost all the time. Hopefully the men on the field can show us playing and winning games on the field is all that matters. btw here are my predictions.
Lineup
Reyes- .280/11hrs/62 rbi
Castillo-.279/0hr/39 rbi
Wright-.303/22hr/107 rbi
Bay-.276/29hr/102 rbi
Beltran-.289/14hr/88rbi
Murphy-.275/13hr/69rbi
Molina-.265/15hr/72rbi
F-core-.282/16hr/70rbi
Rotation
Santana 17-9 3.10 era
Piniero 13-10 3.80 era
Pelfrey 14-8 3.50 era
Maine 12-10 4.20 era
Perez 11-8 4.30 era
Team Wins (this team) 84
Team Wins (with Hudson-Sheets-Arroyo) 88
Bad news? What bad news has there been since the Bernazard incident? The Beltran surgery was just a miscommunication, that’s all. Either way, he was going to need surgery and it wasn’t the fault of the Mets organization. Players get hurt. Better to have him miss a month of the season and come back 100% than to have him hobble through April, May, and then have surgery in June.
Things get blown entirely out of proportion. Thanks, New York Media.
I should say the Adam Rubin incident as well…but again, a lot of this stems from frustration with what was taking place on the field. Omar was wrong, no doubt, but can you blame him? All that money and nothing but injuries…
What makes you believe that Niese will start in AAA, if you don’t mind me asking? I’d love for that to be the case, I’m just thinking that they are going to unnecessarily switch focus from pitching to compensating for lost power.
Avoiding arbitration with Maine tells me they still believe he can be a good starting pitcher. Since they are likely to acquire one more SP, and Santana/Pelfrey/Perez are all but locks for the rotation, the only place left for Niese to go is AAA. If they had many doubts about Maine (like I do), they would’ve let it go to arbitration because they would win the case. He made around $2.6MM last year, if I’m not mistaken, and they could have paid him even less this season because Maine has been unproductive for the last year and a half.
Like I said before, I see this as an act of faith, showing him the club still believes in him.
I’m with you, I just felt like the FO would be looking for more power given the uncertainty of the Beltran situation. The only part I disagree with you about is Maine’s season. I personally think Maine is going to be stellar. Why you may ask? Because he is a 29 year old soon-to-be free agent. And he is much better than his injury ridden performances lead one to believe. Just look at his numbers from 07.
I think Maine might have a lower ERA than that and two more wins, Perez I’d agree with, Pelf i’d say probably somewhere around there with the ERA maybe 3.6 – 4.0
WOW. so bored. There hasn’t been one post on here yet since last night.
Maybe thats a good thing, nice and quiet.
yeah, I thought we were going to sign the fat guy to catch that can’t run but will be an inspiration to our pitching staff with 48 hours , like 96 hours ago!
maybe he’s having knee surgury before signing.
no one will know….
I am really surprised there has not been one post yet so far today. Not saying there needs to be one, But there’s usually some sort of story or piece of news Matt shares with us. Maybe today’s of of those days where there 1 or two “big news” posts.
The calm before the storm!………….. lol
big news pending for the mets- coming very soon
a week later- we have been informed that Bengie Molina is fat.
Hey, what happened to the inside information “Molina and Pinero will sign by the weekend” banter that we heard on Tuesday. Oh, that’s right, we didn’t sign either of them yet, and the Dodgers are looking at Pinero now.
I Think Fatcessa is going to announce all of our big news and transactions for the remainder of the off season. So keep watching his show and wait for him to say ” i got some Mets news stay tuned”
That has To be the most irritating thing he can say to Met fans. If its big news then freaking say it.
Dodgers have no chance to offer Pineiro more than the Mets can. If the Mets really want him LA is a non-issue. Not too mention his numbers would be far better in our park than theirs. They will end up with John Garland(who they’ve also contacted) if anybody.
Godsend is as optimistic mets fan as I will ever see.. wow.. if we all around have those numbers for all our players guarantee 100 wins this year…
I think my predictions are more realistic to met fans because we have been so down and negative about this team for a while now. Well at least i have. But can you blame me. I know im going to get a lot of hate comments for this but. When your team loses on the last day of the season two seasons in a row, then have a full year of a minor league team playing for us, then right out of the gate we hear Beltran has had surgery ( and i don’t even care about the organizational drama between Beltran and the front office and medical staff) that doesn’t mean anything to me. Its just the fact that he is going to be out. (even if its for a short period of time. The fact that were starting the season with a player on the dl after almost all of our starters were on the dl last season just frustrates me. i will be waiting for the hate comments, but this is my opinion. The Mets wont gain my respect back until they prove they can make the playoffs. All i want is wins, and playoffs. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for. Don’t you think?
Why would anybody hate u? Ur 100% right.. in fact I think ur being modest.. we downright cho+ke 2 years straight, and we brought the same cho-kers back again, perez, cashstealer, delgado among those for the 2009 season when we could’ve sign tex n trade delgado when it was the right move to do..no wonder many ppl specially fans r down wit the team, is a shame coz we do have great players..
yea me and you would get a long great haha. I understand all the fans that have been fans for many many years. They don’t want To be negative because they have seen all the great moments in Mets history. I am 18 years and i basically just remember the 2000 Mets season and of course 2006 as great memories. That isn’t enough for me to positive about a team that has done nothing for the fans. You collapsed 2 seasons in a row, your front office is a joke along with your medical staff. We have a gm that makes more bad choices then good and to go along with that we have a manager who cant take anything seriously and laughs during every post game interview even when the Mets lose. Now im all for having some sort of high spirit after a loss. But please Jerry always tries tobe a comedian with the press. Im sick of it and im sick of this team unless something great happens this year. i will always watch them and stand by them. But that doesn’t mean i need to have high expectations for them. The people who do obviously have gotten let down by this clown team. Advice to the whole New york Mets team. Make Citi Field look like its a Mets ballpark, take advice from the Yankees who we all know are ten times better then us no matter what excuses you have, Win baseball games and for the love of god, OLLIE…throw strikes!!. Make the playoffs. Then IF we do make the playoffs, i would like to hear all the negative fans then. that would be pathetic. ill gain respect just from a playoff berth from them. but that’s just me. But I hope met fans don’t bash afterwords. Making the playoffs is a blessing to this team after what happen for the past 3 years.
years old*
Me, mr bill and a few had here what was called the “core”.. oh fiya minaya too, although she was really outspoken, anyhow, I’ve always view things how they r, many fans become too attached to certain players or situation and don’t look at the facts.. I do
If you are putting all your eggs in a basket filled with
rebound years from Pelfrey, Maine, and Ollie, then you
are severely dilusional. I would love to see those numbers
from all three, but in reality, if we got that kind of production
out one of those three, it would be great. A number two like
Bronson Arroyo would take so much pressure off of all 3 of those
guys, dramatically upgrade our current pitching, and would be a
much better match up with the Marlins, Braves, and Phillies starting
staff’s…..who in my opinion are all better than what the Mets currently
offer. I think the Mets know this, and will make something happen in
the next couple of weeks.
Don’t you wish sometimes, Omar would just go on Metsblog , read some of our comments, including the one you have just posted. him saying ” hey that’s not a bad idea. Let me call the reds and see what they want for arroyo, hey why not try for Brandon Phillips to. I wonder if Omar has ever been on Metsblog even once to just read Matt’s posts or our comments.
Come on man, be serious.
You’re delusional if you think that a lifetime 4+ ERA pitcher, in the NL, is a #2. You’re also delusional for thinking that the Marlins have a better staff because of Johnson, and what, Nolasco?
And don’t get me started on the Phillies. After Halladay they are just as suspect, if not moreso than the Mets. They don’t win because of pitching.
I know he listens to talk radio, as he has admitted to it in interviews
with his buddy Fatcessa.
Now trade him.Pelfrey is said to be a head case,Maine isn’t to far behind.Every game he seems to have meltdown inning.So the question is. How do the Mets correct the deamons in the heads of Pelfrey,Maine and Perez.
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