In a conference call with reporters today, Omar Minaya said Jose Reyes will need 2-8 weeks until his thyroid levels stabilize and he can resume baseball activities.
According to Minaya, Reyes will not need medication and the condition should not recur as long as he makes adjustments to his diet.
He said Reyes could miss Opening Day, but he has confidence in Alex Cora and Ruben Tejada.
To read details from the conference call, click below:
According to a statement from the Mets, the additional blood tests confirmed that Reyes is hyperthyroid, and Reyes and his representatives have been informed of the results by the Mets’ physicians.
The current treatment plan calls for rest, dietary changes and refraining from athletic activity. Doctors will monitor Reyes’ thyroid levels through blood tests, and he will be cleared to resume baseball activities as soon as they are stabilized.
Omar Minaya is holding a conference call at 12:30 p.m. to further discuss the situation. I am on the call and will provide updates to this post below.
…update, 12:40 p.m….
Minaya and Peter Greenberg, Reyes’ agent, are on the call. Minaya says the club does not know how long it will take for the thyroid levels to get back to normal and they do not have a specific timeframe.
Greenberg says that he views the diagnosis as good news, but said that Reyes is disappointed that he will have to be out for “weeks as opposed to days.”
…update, 12:42 p.m….
Minaya stressed that there is no medication to treat Reyes’ ailment. Greenberg says it will likely take 2-8 weeks for the levels to stabilize, but that the doctors said this was the best possible diagnosis because it’s a very treatable issue.
…update, 12:44 p.m….
Minaya says that when Reyes returns to camp, he will need to be built up again, “as far as running and those types of things,” coming off his injury. He said that this is why he went out and re-signed Alex Cora this offseason.
Reyes will stay at home in New York while he recovers. He will be tested at some time next week.
…update, 12:46 p.m….
According to Greenberg, doctors have no doubt that Reyes’ thyroid levels will return to normal as long as he doesn’t significantly increase his heartrate or eat seafood. Doctors said he is unlikely to endure a recurrence.
Both Greenberg and Minaya have stated that Reyes is “in the best shape of his life.”
…update, 12:47 p.m….
Greenberg said that Reyes did exercise on Monday and Tuesday, but has since learned that he needs to “completely shut it down,” and for now will “just watch a lot of movies with his family.”
…update, 12:50 p.m….
Minaya admitted, “the reality is, it doesn’t look good,” for Reyes opening the season with the Mets, and said that though he will not commit to Reyes starting the season on the Disabled List, the club will prepare for that.
…update, 12:52 p.m….
And we’re done. This concludes today’s conference call.
This doesn’t sound so good. How much rest are we talking about here?
hopefully, just a few days.
2-8 weeks without any athletic activity. Then he has to get back in baseball shape since at that point it will be 11 months since he played in a real game.
Good thing Omar anticipated this Thyroid problem and rushed out to re-sign Alex Cora as the story says. Who knew Omar could see the future?
Yup thank god we have Cora and not a guy like F. Lopez
This never ends
Any idea as to how long this usually takes? Could it be more than a week? 2 weeks? What are the chances that his levels stay high? This is starting to bother me.
On the flip-side, this could be a blessing in disguise, maybe the delayed Spring start will help him stay energized all season.
I don’t know what to make of this.
Uh oh…
boy oh boy is all I can say….can’t buy a break.
Get well Jose!
Its always something!!!
This organized is cursed I tells ya… Cursed…
2-8 weeks? Wow, so I guess Opening Day IS up in the air after all.. ugh.
Jose will be lucky to play in 60 games this year. There will be something else after this is over. Jose is a bleeder and I doubt he’ll ever play a full season of baseball again.
Yeah, these are all great points. Come on, man. These things happen, take it in stride.
This season is over before it started. Sweet!
Season. Over.
Hasn’t even started yet, all we can do is wish him a speedy recovery.
Welcome to 2010…. Feels a lot like 2009…
Plus, the same built-in injury excuse to keep Omar and Jerry employed…
It’s like not being allowed to leave the Island on Lost.
Hopefully that’s not true… I’d expect that when the Mets get off to a bad start, and without Reyes and Beltran that’s a pretty good guess, that Manuel and Omar are gone by Memorial day.
At this point, it is laughable. Unreal.
Ah screw it, just let him play…
agreed. This organization loves seeing its fans suffer.
is that why there are constant commercials celebrating the latest Yankee championship on SNY?
you cant just say let him play, of course Jose wants to play but he has a condition. I know players seem like robots, and we dont have to care about them on a personal level, but he is a human, and his health comes before his job, even if his job is to entertain fans and win ball games. Just let him play doesnt work when health is involved
he is not allowed to elevate his heart rate, this is a serious thing, its not him sitting out cause he has a blister
+100 – of course he wants to play but he has to be healthy, same goes for all of them. He’s young, he should bounce back from this quickly i hope.
okay well things could be worse, he probably won’t be on any medciation so that won’t be messing with him and if it clears up quick he should be back quick enough.
So now who bats 3rd Jerry? This line-up is going to be pathetic in April.
who cares about April. this team has shown time and time again that they know how to pull it together and get hot in September when it counts. Oh wait…
We signed Cora as insurance? You’ve gotta be kidd’in right Omar. This is beginning to sound the same as last year with the hamstring. I’m waiting for them to tell us he will be out the first month of the season like Beltran. No Beltran, no Delgado, no Reyes, the same weak rotation, a weaker bullpen, and, oh yes Jason Bay (who can’t hit his way out of a paper bag this Spring.
I am so excited.
Im glad Delgado is gone. Dont worry about Bay he will be fine. Now, Reyes and Beltran, thats a problem.
Darn it Jose, stay away from the shrimp!!!!!!
UGH and i was soi looking forward to seeing Jose on opening day!
LET HIM PLAY LET HIM PLAY LET HIM PLAY.
If it was up to Jose( which it should be) he would be out there in a heart beat.
guys he has a medical condition, its not a matter of him wanting to play or not, of course he wants to be out there, and unfortunately there is something stopping him, but dont you care about his overall well being?
Also, FYI, one of the symptoms is increased heart rate. Now since he’s a athlete and a runner… the heart rate is going to be even higher… which means he might get a heart attack and die stealing a base. Do you really want that? Be a little realistic..
This is a bit worrisome.. This isn’t a condition where the doc says “take two advils and call me in the morning.” Even if he is taking medication, they are not going to know if it did anything until the next blood test. They are not going to know along the way.
i will agree though april is gonna be a tough month, if we want to hang on we need the rotation to step up big
I have a feeling this is going to drag on. First April, then May, then June…
This organization will make sure Reyes does not play a game this season.
Minaya signed Cora just in case Reyes was diagnosed with a thyroid problem?
Out 2-8 weeks now?! Something smells fishy about this whole situation.
Completely agree… That statement right there is very curious…
Stealth steroid suspension perhaps?
You mean like Michael Jordan leaving Basketball to play minor league baseball?
Yes
I agree. 8 weeks plus the two already past = one helluva amount of shrimp.
Hopefully by the time Reyes and Beltran are ready to play either Backman or Bobby V is the new manager and we have a new GM getting ready for trade deadline moves.
Everybody Clap Your Hands…
And for all you out there that said the negative reaction needed to be toned down and Reyes would be fine……I say LOL, LOL, LOL. Nothing is ever………………..ever……………….ever…..that simple when it comes to the Mets. I’m going crazy too, but the season is over…it never started and it’s freakin’ over already!!!! They need to trade Beltran and rebuild the entire organization!!!
The season is over? How about we let them play a few games first before all the gloom and doom. Sure I am upset over this news and it’s not going to be easy, but the baseball season is a marathon – not a sprint – and a .500 April is all we need to have by the time Beltran and Reyes return. And yes, let’s trade Beltran, the best CF in the game, who would create another gaping hole on our roster coming off a major knee surgery while his value is down and get nothing worthwhile in return. That sounds like a well thought out plan!
My excitement for the season just took a huge plummet.
It’ll come back if Reyes returns in time for Opening Day…but…
CF Pagan
2B Castillo
3B Wright
LF Bay
1B Murphy
RF Francoeur
C Barajas
SS Hernandez
…UGH.
Hernandez?
Try Cora… And now, Cora gets that 2011 option no problem…
I didn’t have much confidence in Beltran or Reyes being ready for this season and I said so last fall. This is horrible! What’s worse is the possibility that the whispers around baseball that Jose somehow brought this health problem on himself by taking synthetic thyroid hormones – T3 or T4, could even be true. I hope it’s not and that, either way, Jose gets well soon, because I love him! So now, we start the season without our centerfielder and shortstop – our #1 and #3 in the lineup. Those who haven’t been looking at the Met world through rosecolored glasses could see that this could be coming and unfortunately, it has.
Yeah, if I hadn’t been looking at the world through my rosecolored glasses, I would have known last fall that Reyes would have developed a thyroid condition that would force him to miss the start of the season…Not sure how any of us could have missed that.
Omar was on top of it… said that’s the reason he rushed to re-sign Cora.
How is this Omar’s fault?
I recommended in the late fall that the Mets sign Orlando Cabrera for depth and insurance for exactly this kind of thing and some folks didn’t agree with that. The thing about the rose colored glasses is that neither of the injuries – Beltran or Reyes – were ones that Omar or anybody else should have been so vocal about being sure that they would be 100% for ST, but I heard a ton of that.
Just commenting on the original post where Omar said that this is the reason he rushed to sign Cora. As far as I know Reyes’ thyroid condition is not Omar’s fault. However, Omar’s whole attitude that 2009 was a fluke and all of the players who were injured would come back in 2010 and have career years was ridiculous from the start. There were just too many injured players to expect them all to come back and perform at career high levels… was never going to happen.
Let’s take a new Fan Confidence Rating poll!
I hate my team, just hate them.
I just said the same thing to my brother….. the never ending story starring the New York Mess
That’s it. Season over. I bet we don’t see Reyes until May 1 and Beltan until June 1. I bet Ollie Perez is in triple A by June 15.
No way they are going to send Ollie and his $12M salary to AAA… they will continue to trot him out to the mound regardless of performance… this team doesn’t eat contracts… look at Castillo for proof.
…yeah, he’ll just stay in the rotation with a 7.00 era!
Maybe someone should mention the elephant in the room. That HGH is closely related to thyroid conditions and Jose has visited the doctor up north who is being investigated for HGH dispensing. Did Jose bring this on himself?
Anybody can get this at any time, why are you guys jumping the gun here.
people have talked about it already.
come on, that doctor has to be clean. even ARod met with him.
This is a very sad story. You almost wonder if with all those blood tests someone doesn’t snatch some blood and test it for HGH or some other causative PED.
That would break several laws. HIPPA to start with.
Not only HIPPA but MLB isn’t testing ML players for HGH at this time. That would be a violation of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, and like Sylow mentioned, a host of other laws.
Josh Alper from NBC wrote a nice little article and it went like this
“Here’s a few other causes of thyroid problems. Exposure to radiation, overconsumption of soy, too much or too little iodine in one’s diet and eating too much broccoli, kohlrabi, cabbage and cauliflower. There are other possible causes as well and these kinds of problems are so widespread that one has to jump past dozens of other conclusions to find your way to HGH as the reason for Reyes’s troubles.”
Yep, he’s guilty boys, start looking for those tracks boys, and don’t forget to look between those little toes and the buttocks. I’d rather believe he ate too much Paella over the Winter until someone provides the “smoking gun” or “used syringe” in this case.
there is no test for HGH
Hate to break the news, but there is a test for HGH, it’s a blood test.
NY Times, Dec 15 2007, “But in the coming months, antidoping experts and officials said Friday, the use of human growth hormone among professional athletes could take a marked hit. A blood test to detect the drug may become commercially available as early as this spring, according to scientists who are informed about the progress of the test’s development.”
NYDN March 10, 2010 “Despite British rugby player Terry Newton’s recent positive test for HGH through an Olympic-approved blood test…Selig said he will wait to hear back from MLB’s anti-doping expert, Dr. Gary Green, and other scientists and physicians studying the efficacy of the blood test used for Newton before using it on minor league players.”
MLB wants a urine test, seeing that blood tests are difficult to procure.
Hate to break the news, but there is a test for HGH, it’s a blood test.
NY Times, Dec 15 2007, “But in the coming months, antidoping experts and officials said Friday, the use of human growth hormone among professional athletes could take a marked hit. A blood test to detect the drug may become commercially available as early as this spring.”
NYDN March 10, 2010 “Despite British rugby player Terry Newton’s recent positive test for HGH through an Olympic-approved blood test…Selig said he will wait to hear back from MLB’s anti-doping expert, Dr. Gary Green, and other scientists and physicians studying the efficacy of the blood test used for Newton before using it on minor league players.”
MLB is waiting on a urine test.
sorry for the double-double…
HGH does not cause thyroid problems, so Jose did not bring this on himself if he were using. HGH can be used as a treatment, however.
I really don’t think you were implying that he was using HGH to help his thyroid.
The use of HGH helps the thyroid and prevents problems, not the other way around. So all of you conspiracy theorists who say he has this problem due to using HGH are misinformed. Look it up.
I don’t know what to make of this, but you don’t hear about medical things like thyroids unless there was something synthetic going on. Not saying he did ‘roids, but how do you really know what these players are taking anymore?
this is bad…
We may have been able to stomach Beltran out, but with will be very difficult for this club to overcome absences by both…
and Wright will have monkey on his back, at least Bay and Francoeur will hopefully share the load.
The strange thing here for me is that they are saying his thyroid levels will return to normal without medication.
I guess I don’t understand this. They say there is no medication to treat this … yet they feel it will normalize on it’s own? That implies this is temporary, and if it’s temporary, it’s not hyperthyroidism, it’s induced hyperthyroidism. And what would induce this condition? Lots of seafood? HGH injections? Other?
I mean, I would think that if he was hyperthyroid, they would simply say that he’s going to remain that way and/or he needs medication to alleviate it.
i agree with this and it also says it won’t return? so how can they be sure of that
At least we can rest assured our pitching will get us through until he returns. Pelf’s got em loaded in the top of the first with no out.
Yeah…I’m shocked. Hopefully it will be only the 2 weeks. Man oh man. Well gotta say I’m disappointed but this is a good thing in the end for Jose’s life. If he would have played with this he very well could have had a heart attack. That sort of thyroid imbalance could have killed him. So he sits 2 weeks, hopefully it will balance itself out in the meantime and he can get back to playing. Sucks for Jose though..fully healthy in his legs and now he has to sit. Luckily, since it is just a blood issue he can very well be back within a week of being cleared. Its not like he has to rehab his knee like Beltran. Well get well Jose.
2010 = 2009?
I guess the blind optimists can start eating crow now.
I’m not sure why so many people thought that 2009 was an island, that all those injuries and bad luck were just that — bad luck, and that it would be balanced out by good luck, and had nothing to do with poor management or poor conditioning. 17 hamstring injuries are not just a case of bad luck. 2009 is not just an ugly page that you can turn and pretend did not happen. Did people really think at midnight January 1st that the Mets would no longer be an injury-prone team, just because it is a new calander year? They will continue to drop like flies, and at some point, hopefully, the FO will realize this was not just a flukey, one-season thing.
I guess everyone just wanted to believe.
The mantra of our illustrious front office is:
okay we lost…we’re just one player away
okay we failed….it was just a fluke!
the sad part – a fan like me who is so disgusted with the fialure this team has provided will actually talk himself into believing some of this garbage. I want to see a winning team and (like all of us) am tired with the dissappointment.
Is this the Pirates blog? We had a real good three year run; no WC but meaningful games in late September. Last year was like a hospital tent in the Argonne. This year there were questions, but a team that would likely contend. And there are 5 prospects that should be here next year, if not this year. And a few more after that. I don’t think Royals fans complain this much.
“Last year was like a hospital tent in the Argonne.” – haha nice
and royals and pirate fans don’t complain as much…the will to care has been beaten out of most of their fanbase. They don’t get frustrated as underachieving play…how can you with those rosters (save greinke obv).
also:
our fan base is larger, so proportionately you’d figure the mets will have a larger share of complainers in this view.
Plus the constant media coverage in NY makes it virtually impossible to avoid the constant barrage of bad met news/ underachieving play…not so in those smaller markets.
This is the root of the complaining in my opinion…the underachieving aspect of the Mets. with all of their talent, they tend to fall short. and to be honest, 2007 and 2008′s meaningful september games were as fun as a bleeding ulcer.
corrections – “don’t get frustrated AT underachieving play” not as
apolgies for the suspect grammar
IOW, us peeple hear in flyover land needs too b quiet n b happy we got usselves the local grain supply company to gives owr nite softballs team free beer and shirtz.
hey man – free shirts are awesome.
free beer as well…where do i sign up.
regardless…enjoy!
W/E
Hooray — meaningful games in September. One playoff appearance is not a three year run for the second largest payroll in baseball with the talent this team has, I’m sorry. You sound like a Wilpon who is happy to get the gate.
Exactly!!! The goal should be meaningful games in OCTOBER.
Also, look — the Reyes thing was a fluke, that is obvious — however, the point I make abut the multiple hamstring injuries and mishandled management of those injuries last year (and already this year with Beltran) makes these situations less tolerable.
In other words, if the Mets could have avoided last year’s poor training and conditioning (Niese (DL), Reyes (DL), Sheffield (DL twice), Church (DL), Schneider (DL), Castro (DL), Nieve (DL), Wright (no DL) all had hamstring injuries last year, Pagan(groin), FMart, OP, Beltran knees that they played on too long) — then we would all be looking at this minor setback differently. We also wouldn’t think much of the way they handled it (with Reyes not knowing what happened until afterward thru the press). We would all be happy that Reyes is ok, will be back soon, and we wouldn’t be talking about this being yet another chapter in this ridiculous Mets recent history of lies, deception, and poor management.
Did you misplace your pacifier? They played very exciting baseball for three years and were in first place before it hit the fan last year. Yeah 3 WS victories would be nice. But look at Pittsburg, Houston, KC, Baltimore, DC, … Would you rather be them? How about being a fan of a competative team then watching one of your stars walk because your team cannot afford him.
I didn’t realize the Pirates and Royals were putting out the same product and charging the same money we were.
The Wilpons love you.
I doubt the Royals fans pay CitiField prices either, and I doubt the Royals try to pass themselves off as World Series contenders.
they also don’t earn NY level salaries either. But why let that endanger a pity party.
Since the NY fans are the ones subsidizing the Royals and Pirates they should complaining about comparisons to either of those AAA franchises.
Excellent point. No wonder why people here think NY fans are obnoxious. Maybe you should grow your own food.
Are you saying I should stop being a mets fan. because as long as the front office keeps running things every player will get hurt?
Bad Luck is bad luck. 17 Hamstring injuries? i remember 1, reyes as a strain, and 1 with neise where his muscle tore off the bone, not anything conditioning will help. a bone bruise (didn’t know you could condition for bruises) a torn knee ligament, another preventable injury for sure. Bone chips in an elbow, again the right training and those bone chips would have helped johan throw harder… 2 broken thumbs, a concussion… a bad hip
Actually i see a running list of injuries that were unlucky and unpreventable by any means of training.
I just don’t understand this ludicrous statement. It doesn’t register in my brain.. I think i’m actually dumber for reading and should be on medication for actually replying.
I agree with you entirely, well said.
You may be dumber from reading my comment, it would explain yours.
However, to take the high road:
You named Reyes, who had a calf injury that they told him to play thru, and it caused the worse injury to his hamstring. Then, in rehabbing that hammy in late September (trying to come back for the final weekend of the season), he TORE the OTHER hammy.
You bring up Niese — he also strained a hammy on the mound… and they decided to force him to try to pitch MORE — immediately — and he fell down after tearing his OTHER hammy trying to compensate for what he just did.
Niese (DL), Reyes (DL), Sheffield (DL twice), Church (DL), Schneider (DL), Castro (DL), Nieve (DL), Wright (no DL) all had hamstring injuries last year, but you conveniently only remember TWO hammy injury? Really? Are you SURE you don’t remember all the other ones I just mentioned???
And the bone chips in the elbow? The Mets traded for the guy KNOWING he had that injury, and TOLD HIM TO LIE ABOUT HAVING IT.
“I knew that I wasn’t right. I wasn’t healthy. The toughest part was having to face the media and tell them that you feel fine, even though you know there’s something wrong and they don’t want you telling them that you’re banged up.” — JJ Putz
Forget knee injuries to Perez and FMart and Beltran that ended half their season, a DL stint for Pagan for a groin, and probably a couple more I am forgetting, to go with the hip and concussion and two broken fingers you list as the only injuries they suffered, and yeah, it was just bad luck. Glad it hasn’t spilled over into 2010, what would we do if we lost guys like Beltran and Reyes again?
This has nothing to do with blind optimism. There is nothing that happened in 2009, NOTHING, that could have predicted a fluke condition like the one Reyes has developed. It’s more naive on your part to attribute this thyroid condition to A.) the Mets organization, or B.) the string of hamstring injuries that occurred in 2010. You think you’re condemning those who thought a string of bad luck like that which occurred in 2009 could never happen again, but you’re really just exposing your own ignorance.
+1,000,000
I never said this Reyes thing was not a fluke, nor did I say it could be predicted. Name-calling won’t make you feel better. but it does help me understand the type of person you are.
The blind optimists I am referring to are the ones that said the bad luck was last year, this is 2010, and I responded by saying how do we know there won’t be more flukey things to happen this year? You may not have been in that conversation then, but you sure seem to know what I was referring to by your comments and harsh tone.
This was a fluke, and those a few weeks ago that said that stuff is behind us are eating crow now.
Thanks for your input.
How Chicken Littlesque.
How were we supposed to know that Omar upset the Santos de Beisbol a few years ago, and must now sacrifice a chicken or goat on the mound?
Why would the blind optimists be eating crow, it was a medical condition, not an injury. This kind of think can not be anticipated or planned for. The doomsayers really need to step away from the ledge, Even if this $140 million ball-club started the season 0-20, I would still catch a game if and when I could. Then again my QOL isn’t greatly affected by the standing, not much anyway.
Mets lose, I throw remote or cell phone out window, replace window pane, buy new remote or phone, take son to park, and get on w/ my life.
No crow here, please pass the Kool-Aid.
**thing**
Seriously. Please explain to me why we should all linger upon past miseries? Please give me a rational explanation as to why a fan of a sports team, whose life is in no way attached to the fate of that organization, should not look to a new season with optimism? Should we all wallow in the pity and pathetic self-loathing that some Met fans seem to bask in?
Sorry, but I cannot do that. We live in a country on the brink of complete economic meltdown. We live under a progressively tyrannical system of government syphening slowly our liberties for the last 100+ years. There are people losing there jobs, homes, savings, etc. Sports and other leisure activities are meant to be an escape for those of us who are not employed by their organizations. If you (general term not anyone specific) are so miserable in your fandom, what is the point?
There is nothing wrong with rose-colored glasses. Jump off a ledge about your job, your mortgage, your bank account. Not your sport’s team. I eat no crow; fowl is not particularly good for my bloodtype.
Excellent post. Run for public office, please.
I’ve actually been tossing that idea around for quite some time. NJ District 6 lol
Nice area, good luck. I’ve been thinking about the school board here.
There is nothing wrong with rose-colored glasses, but to spin bad news so much that it is no longer bad news is going a little too far for me. If you don’t think losing Reyes is a bad thing, I just don’t understand that. Do I have optimism they can win in spite of this bad news? Of course. I’m a Met fan and will root and hope and deep down actually believe they will be ok thru this. However, this is still bad news, no matter what color your glasses are.
I’d give Rueben Tejada alot of ABs. I mean alot of ABs. If the kid can be ready for April and leave Cora on the bench and AHern in the minors, I would feel a hole heck of alot better
I agree. I’d like to see what this kid can do the rest of the Spring…
I absolutely agree with that! I’m with you on Rueben Tejada. Might get a spark for a month.
When I hear “thats why I signed Alex Cora” I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Felipe Lopez could’ve been had for a song and would have nicely filled in for Reyes. Same ol’ Minaya, same ol’ Mets.
and FYI scoreboard check, Pelfrey got rocked in the first inning. I know its just spring training but can anything go right with this team?
Felipe lopez is an atrocious Short Stop. At least cora can field the position.
Lopez is a decent 2nd baseman, but at short stop he is AWFUL.
he’s no star but he’s not that bad either, barely worse than Cora. of course, Lopez might actually get some hits too, whereas Cora is an automatic out. So i’ll take a few balls going through the hole in exchange for some offense.
lets move murphy to SS
and play Davis/Carter at 1b
serious or kidding?
Please I do not want to see Cora, please, please, please, no Cora, lets the young Tejada play.
so lets see … no beltran or reyes until june 1 and the worst starting rotation in baseball … sounds like a last place team to me
I see your point. Although, there has to be at least one or two teams with a worse rotation. ??
wow exaggerating. Reyes will miss 8 weeks and that’s June 1st. I guess there is only 2 week in april and 2 week in may.
Beltran is scheduled to be back mid April to may 1st.
Also the rotation is no where near the worst in baseball. There are easily a dozen or so teams who have worse rotations. Heck the nationals have a worse rotation in the NL East.
8 weeks means he can’t resume baseball activities until the end of the 1st week of may and will have to go through an entire spring training in may and do you think they are going to rush him back once he’s cleared for baseball activity
beltran can’t resume baseball activity until mid to late april and then he’s going to need an entire spring training before he can come back and again the team’s not going to rush it given his previous knee problems.
if you expect to see either reyes or beltran before june 1 you are living in a dream world.
nowhere CLOSE to the worst rotation in baseball. Even last year where our the biggest contributors to our rotation were Pelfrey, Santana, Livan, Redding, and Maine in that order! We were better than a handful in the NL
Just to reiterate in the NL the teams that have hands down better rotations ATL, LA, SF, STL, ARI, & CIN. Teams that could really go either way CHI, COL, PHI, FLA. Teams with worse rotations MIL, WAS, HOU, SD, PIT. Thats 6 better, 4 about equal, and 5 worse. I would say thats about average rotation. And thats me being extremely pessimistic.
wow a lineup with barajas, murphy, castillo & cora … how ugly is that
Look. I’ll say it again. In the world of sports there are basically 2 types of athletes. You have your Cal Ripken Jr. types and then you have your Jose Reyes types. Jose is NEVER going to be a guy who can be counted on for a whole season. He is always going to have some sort of issue. There may be no way to explain this, its just the way it is. What good is all the guys talent if he can’t stay on the field?
And why not. I seem to remember him playing in 161, 153, 160, 159 games each season from 2005 through 2008. he gets hurt one year, has a blood condition that MIGHT keep him out until opening day, and now he’s a risk. Even the great Derek Jeter got hurt and missed 50 games one season.
Your making a blanket statement with no factual evidence to back it up. The guy had been a consistent player on the field for 95% of the games the team played for 4 years.
Why don’t you tell us how many other athletes in this modern day era have come close to Cal Ripken. Matter of fact how many players last year played in EVERY GAME? Like the expression on the shirt…S–T Happens!! It just keeps happening to the Mets
Ok. You guys may be right. I don’t have the time in my life to look into how many games players have played over the years. You got me! Its just frustrating seeing all these injuries.
the terrible luck this team has year after year cannot be made up. This is just unbelievable. I know no one wants to discuss the possible HGH connection to all this, but it is out there. What really aggravates me is the Yankees take HGH and steroids, and they win the World Series. The Mets (possibly) take HGH and their players develop hyperthyroidism and NEVER actually play!! What kind of sick joke are the baseball gods playing on Met fans???
Actually not really. Giambi had that weird infection, and those those cheaters never really won anything. i’d lump in Clemens but he was on the team before they started getting all roid heads.
a full 1/3 of the Yanks 2000 World Series team was named in the Mitchell Report. Clemens, Pettite, David Justice, Jeff Nelson (or maybe it was Stanton), I think Denny Neagle…..
Even if he came back in 3 weeks he needs about 2 to 3 weeks of playing time he has not really played much since July
This is atrocious from the standpoint of the team. I’m glad he’s not going to have a chronic illness, but still, this is terrible for the team.
This just sounds suspect.
This franchise has such bad luck
Why is every initial medical diagnosis usually publicized as being positive and subsequently reversed? I actually wonder if Reyes’ tests were even known by the Mets until today.
How could the results go from “you’re fine” to “you’re in trouble”?
What was negative about this diagnosis. It’s not a long term thing. It’s treatable without medication. He has to change his diet and rest, and he will be perfectly fine.
To me that’s a wonderful diagnosis. So what it takes 2-8 weeks… It’s not life threatening, career threatening, or even season threatening.
yes Mark and then in 3 weeks the Mets will say, ok rest and diet isnt working, now he needs meds…add another 2 months. I think this is terrible news as we are in a wait and see pattern now and they dont know what or when his levels will return to where they need to be.
Terrible news for a cursed organization.
If it were worse he wouldn’t need meds. He would need radioactive iodine the syntheoid, or something similar, for the rest of his life. That or surgery and synthoid the rest of his life. Either way the bigger concern would be the quality of his life and not the quality of your June baseball watching. But why split hairs.
lets just be thankfull that this is the best possible diagnosis, and if we have to deal with a few weeks or so without out our two best everyday players, its not the end of the world. lets not forget that year after year we watch teams make the playoffs by getting hot for a month after the all star game, not by starting the year well. The mets season is going to depend on pelf,maine and perez and there ability to bounce back to what was considered a major strength of the team such a short time ago. If those guys cant get through 5 innnings withouth throwing 100 pitches it doesnt matter who is behind them. if it were months for each player thats a different story, but luckily these things happened now and not in june. i dont know if hes still out there but if he is id grab felipe lopez at this point, because cora cant play everyday and if castillo has any problems then we are in trouble. lopez had over 160 hits last year and is a much better option to play everyday then alex cora. i havent noticed if hed been signed yet but if not, omar, go get him, hes a much better everyday player then alex cora.
Well I chose not to take any notice of the crap that came out the last couple of days about this. So, I feel I understand this situation now. We wont be seeing much of Jose Reyes for a while
Well lets all do ourselves a favor and stop thinking it will be 2 weeks till he is active again and will make opening day because deep down we all know thats not going to happen. Lets not set ourselves up to be let down once again.
So much for 2010 helping us put 2009 in the past.
I swear rooting for this team is going to take 10 years off of my life.
85-88 wins just went to 80-82 wins
Adeiny Echevarría, 19 years old with all the tools, if he were Dominican, Omar would be all over him. What a shame that this caracter is been running the Mets to the groung, without looking at prospects from other countries other than DR.
Uncalled for…slander and libel…
The ignorance of some people boggles my mind, you’d think it was 1857 all over again and the Dred Scot decision was just handed down.
Lets not forget that Reyes’ first diagnosis last year was 1-2 days. An initial diagnosis of 2-8 weeks is frightening.
8 weeks (Seriously, you believe any Met will ever recuperate on the short end of an estimate?) out, then 2 weeks to get into shape, most likely straining something in that process. We’ll be lucky to see him in June, along with Carlos. At that time we’ll be 15 out in the basement.
Look on the bright side: plenty of $1.99 seats on Stubhub again this season!
And so it begins…. again….
I thought he would be back on the field this weekend and I’m shocked he could be out this long. However, I think some are making too much of it. There are still 3-4 weeks before opening day. Theoretically, he could be back one week into the season.
As for HGH, that is just irresponsible to speculate. Today’s Daily News quoted a doctor who said longterm HGH use might tend to lower thyroid hormone levels. And Jose showed elevated levels. IOW, elevated thyroid levels are not necessarily a symptom of HGH use unless someone has taken it shortly before the blood test. And this obviously was not the case with Jose. I’m sure this will be lost on Carton and all the other Mets bashers who just want to get their jabs in.
Unfortunately, whilst it may be the case, the link is there, so people can totally disregard any theory or precedent
something doesn’t jive well here…
if it’s slightly overactive and it can be controlled by diet..then fine, let him live his daily routine, which includes working out and playing ball, and change the diet and re-test in 2 weeks…
how does him playing ball affect his slightly overactive thyroid if he doesn’t need to be on meds?
if anything, i would think him laying like a bump on a log for a few weeks will only hamper him more with the thyroid and then his leg.
Because an elevated heart rate increases production of the hormone, thus making his most important muscle, his heart, a ticking time bomb. Let him rest for a little while to get the hormone production under control, then begin baseball activities.
Nothing fishy, just a rather common (about 10% of the US population, 40% more than those suffering from diabetes) medical condition affecting a player on a sports team whom we actually root for.
…this is sad…and unfortunately it sounds like something chronic which will have to monitored…and if sny is showing the yankees (winning anything…i am in denial) thats just mean…
something sure is “fishy” about this. seriously, i think you guys are right to be suspicious. gimme a break, how much seafood do you have to eat to cause this kind of situation? if the seafood story is even true, it must have been seriously contaminated with heavy metals, PCB’s, and who knows what. However, i also think there is more to this. HGH, synthetic thyroid hormone supplements, some other crazy drug they sell over the counter in the Dominican… who knows. i almost feel like they’re waiting for Jose’s system to clear something out so he doesn’t get tested during this time period by MLB. kinda like when Sammy Sosa took a year off…
do any of you guys know anything about seafood and the thyroid? jcthree? i mean, other than the fact that some seafood contains some iodine? and jcthree, how great is the risk of heart attack for someone with slightly elevated thyroid hormone levels?
UN FREAKIN BELIEVABLE.
It’s so sad to see that after a week or two of relative optimism here, one negative piece of news and everybody has busted out their tinfoil hats again.
I get what you are saying but its hard not to be. We are missing possibly our two best players for how long? Nobody can say. It is kind of hard to stay postive when this season is starting just like last season never ended.
Yea I said it yesterday when the talk was he would be back on the field this weekend or early next week at the latest. I won’t believe it until I see him on the field.
You just know this is going to turn into 8 weeks. You just know it. Then when the 8 weeks are up he will need say at least 2 weeks to run, workout and all of that, then probably another 2 weeks of playing games in the minors or something. I really don’t think we are going to be seeing Jose until mid May at best.
I really don’t get why he cannot play ball. I am no doctor but at the same time nothing is really being explained. Maybe someone can explain it better for us on why he can’t play. No meds, just change his diet ok, well why can’t he play ball with this?
And again the most frustrating part is all these reports that have come out the last few days saying he will be fine and back on the field at the end of the week. So we start this season just like 2009 never ended, without or possibly 2 biggest offensive forces in the lineup.
And yes thank god for Alex Cora, because a guy F. Lopez who signed with the Cards like a week or two ago would not be a better option. Bottom of the NL east by the end of April is my prediction. Maybe ahead of Washington that is it. It’s a tough schedule early on so get ready for the worst.
2-8weeks FOR A THYROID!!! LOLOLOLOL THE METS NEED SOME NEW DOCTORS… I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AND WAS OUT ABOUT 2 DAYS LOL WHAT A JOKE AND I COULD HAVE EASILY STILL PLAYED SPORTS
Looks like you’re still having Thyroid issues typing like that
+3.14159
That is what I am not getting becasue the Mets are not saying it. Why can’t he play? I am not saying he could, I would just someone who knows what they are talking about explain why Reyes can not play with this, when a bunch of people on this site have talked about how they have the same condition and they are fine and able to do any activity they want.
Because a “bunch of people on this site” aren’t multi million dollar investments expected to perform at their peak every day of their baseball lives.
Let’s face it, Jose Reyes isn’t expected to sit at a desk for 7 to 9 hours a day typing away, or filing papers, or talking on a phone, or what ever else the majority of us do for work. He will also get paid for not running or swinging a bat, where most of us can not survive on WC week to week.
Big difference between the average work-aholic and a professional ball player.
I am talking about people on here who have said they return to all there active activites like running, playing sports, gym all of that stuff.
Apples and oranges…contrary to their own egos and their beliefs…weekend warriors are not professional athletes. A weekend beer league or 45 minutes on a treadmill isn’t on the same level of a Jose Reyes. Not to mention the fact that Jose Reyes is seeing the best doctors money can buy and everyone has a lot more to lose over a misdiagnosis of a professional athlete then the average Joe or June.
Especially after last year, it’s better to be safe than sorry. The media roasted the team after the Church incidents, not to mention Beltran round 1. The team loses nothing (long term) from sitting Reyes for a few weeks, compared to the additional loss if something were to happen 2 months from now. Can you imagine the uproar if Reyes were cleared to play and he collapsed running from 1st to third on a Castillo sac bunt playing the Phillies in May.
Well this BLOWS…..Beltran and Reyes……….sounds familiar. There is no way to tell how good this team is without having there actual Team on the field
btw whoever said Cora’s option is no problem now is likely right. I really don;t hate Cora though, I thought he did a pretty good job overall
FELIPE LOPEZ!!!!!!!!!!!! FELIPE LOPEZ OMAR. I’m not just saying it now I wanted him before, because Reyes was an injury risk going into the season and Castillo can revert back to 2008. Cora’s fine on the bench, but those are the reasons you pay the dirt FELIP LOPEZ was begging for.
Lopez is a 2B!
He has and can play SS very well. Much better then Cora. Oh yea and he can hit much better then Cora.
and this is why Omar is a bad GM. not because players get hurt, but because he NEVER has a backup plan. If you look at his tenure, the Mets have ALWAYS been hurt and there has never been any adequate depth to the team.
In 2006 there were serious injuries to an old rotation, cost us a world series appearance and possible ring. in 2007, more rotation injuries (and I’m not even counting Moises Alou). in 2008, the entire bullpen was hurt. in 2009 the entire team was hurt. but he still doesn’t believe in a solid bench. not alex cora, not julio franco, not Tatis….a SOLID bench of real life major league baseball players.
Seriously, are you suggesting we get 2 levels of backup for every player? Cora was the backup.
a. yes, I am seriously suggesting that there should be 2 backups between the majors and AAA, as recent history has shown that may be necessary. or did you miss last year?
b. my bigger point was Cora is a joke, and doesn’t qualify as a quality backup
Agreed…. especially for 2006… relying on Pedro and El Duque to answer the bell for a whole season was ridiculous, and predictably when the team needed them the most they were nursing injuries.
I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that he doesn’t play SS very well and he’s only played it a handful of times the last couple of years.. Anyways, it’s a moot point.. we didn’t need him then but need someone now.
I am just suggesting instead of given Cora 2 million, go out and get a better player like Lopez to be your back and who is a big big up grade over Cora. He signed a one year deal with the cards for 3 million. He has played SS and even if he is not the greatest SS he has much much more range then Cora and I guarantee you is a far better defense SS then Cora. Plus he can hit and has speed.
Well hopefully the surplus of 2nd & 3rd string catchers that were accumulated over the winter can be turned into a SS for opening day.
Lopez can also play 2B, 3B and the OF.
2-8 weeks = incentive to get wishful-thinking fans to buy opening day tickets but CYA when he doesn’t play.
my wife had the same thing and she never missed a day of work and Gym, I think this is a case were they are overprotecting, after all reyes is not Church.
Or there is something else up, and Jose has not been feeling “Ok” despite what he’s been saying, like his hamstring again or something
Did you not see the videos of him working out? Or was that some serious James Camerson cgi?
Any chance there is a different level of severity? Or maybe there is a different diagnosis that is worse? My X had hyperthyroidism. It turned out to be Graves. They had to nuke her thyroid. Different causes + different severity = different recovery time.
They’re very well could be. That is what I want to know though.
They did not put him on any meds just told him don’t do active activities and change your diet. I have read a bunch of posts on here from people saying they have the same type of condition and are were fine and active again in a few days.
I just want someone from the Mets to explain why he can’t play with this condition that’s all. I am not a doctor, so I am not pretending like I know what he needs, but I would think if it was serious he would be on some sort of meds.
This once again was handled very badly by the Mets I feel. You had Reyes saying he was fine, his agent saying he was fine, the Mets saying he was not fine but everyone saying he would be back on the field by this weekend early next week, now it’s a very broad 2-8 weeks just until he can start baseball activities which means another 4 weeks or so before he is ready to play in a game.
I wish Jose the best of course, but just very frustrating as a fan that’s all.
Well if Omar or the Mets released information to the public without the consent of Reyes it would be a massive violation of HIPPA, among other laws, and would likely be sued and/or arrested. This really has nothing to do with lies or incompetnce.
Dont blame Reyes for this this is a health issue that could happen to anyone. And other than last year form 2005-2009 he played almost every game. I blame the Mets he probbaly had elevated thyroid problems for years that they negelected. I dont beleive anythign that comes out fo the Wilpons or Minaya’s mouth.
unless he gorged himself on seafood every day he was in the DR over the winter. or if he used some PHD or something. then we could blame him. but we don’t know for sure, yet.
dammit, i meant PEDs
Sorry for the typos im typing from my iphone on the bus…lol
At least you have great reception…go 3G network
Unfortunately, I don’t believe any of this. Once again, the stories related to Mets players are so full of shat!
Last week it was, oh he just needs to have further tests.
Then it was just a very minor issue that could be controled in many different ways. We had experts and so-called experts weighing in all over the place with “no problem”, might be a few days to a week or so. Yesterday it was, just waiting on the last test, and Jose is ready to go take the field!
NOW. 2-8 weeks. What’s next? Could be anybody’s guess. How about 2 -8 months.
Here is the bottom line. Something is either wrong with what has shown up in the blood and it is being covered up. Or, the FO, medical staff, and media covering this, are so screwed up that everyone involved should be looking for new careers.
The roller coast ride for Mets fans is absolutely incredible. There is no other team in baseball with this kind of crap. The saga continues.
Honestly, at this point, start playing Ruben Tejada alot more in Spring Training, see his range and his bat skills for your own eyes. If he can hit at a decent average (say something in the .245-.265 range with an OBP of .305-.320) I’d say put him on your opening day roster and have him as your starting SS. He’s a better fielder than Cora and it’s not like Cora is this huge juggernaut offensively so as long as it’s something comparable I’d say role the dice and let the kid play. Cora is the type of guy who could also help mentor Tejada, almost like a personal fielding coach besides the other coaches on the club.
He’s 20. It’s not a good idea
That’s just dumb. What does his age matter? If he can perform better than Cora would, who cares if he was 12? If you’re going to make a statement saying that b/c he’s 20 years old he shouldn’t be in the Major leagues, at least back your opinion up with some information. Simply saying b/c he’s 20 has nothing to do with whether he can perform just as well as Alex Cora can. While I won’t say he’s like any of these following players, but keep in mind A-Rod, Gooden, Griffey Jr, all came up under the age of 20. It’s not the norm, per say, but when you have a solid looking prospect that right now in ST is doing great (being overlooked b/c theres way more hype about Mejia and Davis). Why not give the kid a shot and let him see if he’s ready. Worst case scenario is he struggles and they send him down to work on his game more. I understand taking the chances of hurting his confidence and pushing him back a step, but with their situation (Reyes being out possibly 2 months), I believe they need to make a drastic and bold decision like this and just cross their fingers and hope for the best.
Reyes is out for the season. period. I try not to be a pessimist, but this is just unbelievable!
OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG!OMG! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
For all you drama queens out there, especially the ones trying to spew the Craig Carton line of “where there’s smoke there’s fire,” 27 million Americans suffer from hyperthyroidism. Do the math, thats almost 10%. Only 16 million Americans suffer from diabetes. 10% makes it a common medical issue, and I doubt the even a fraction of a percent of the people afflicted either a) abused HGH, or b) eat a seafood as a high percentage of their diet. So relax on that crap.
Also, as a professional athlete, not a weekend warrior nor common gym rat, the rigors and physical strain upon the vital organs is much more than what we average mortals suffer. So whereas you, or your family friend, or significant other, where able to resume normal daily functions within a matter of days, Jose Reyes’ normal daily functions are a lot different than ours, and it is therefore of extreme importance that he not resume his occupation as quickly as some normal people have resumed theirs. He is not bed ridden. He has not been told that he must refrain from movement. He cannot play baseball, or take part in the activities which surround a baseball player during the season. That does not sound “fishy” to me, nor does it sound unreasonable.
He is not a gladiator in an ancient Roman arena. His life is not meant to be destroyed because we want to see him on the diamond. Reyes is a human being who must put his own personal well being above our personal enjoyment.
So please, stop the ridiculous assertions and whiny, childish nonsense that some of your are taking part in. It does nothing more than make you look like pathetic children crying because your mommy told you no at Toys’R'Us. Be reasonable and use your intellect for once.