Oliver Perez has been placed on 15-day disabled list with patella tendinitis of right knee.
…this is great news, see my previous post… the thing is, why did this take two weeks to come up with this conclusion… oh well… also, most every fan i know, including myself, have been asking for an ollie, Gary Mathews Jr., Luis Castillo free roster for weeks now… well, now we’ve got it… i hope it works out as we hoped…
Perez had an MRI yesterday, according to SNY producer Matt Dunn.
The Mets have said Perez is expected to leave for Florida today to begin his rehab.
Jon Niese has been activated from the disabled list, and will start this afternoon against the Marlins.
Good maybe a stint on the “DL” will clear his head a bit. I’d rather he go on the 60 day DL though!!
Hopefully, that comes next.
he could go to the quack that did MoleHead’s “knee surgery”
that should get him a nice season long vacation to spend some of our $$$$$$
dump this clown !
Sounds like a fortunate excuse. I wonder if anyone knows if there are any repercussions for lying about a player injury and moving them to the DL.
He has gone on the DL a few times with knee troubles…
the only way it would be a problem is if he and his agent protested it, this has been a big cat and mouse game, my guess is Boras and Perez finally caved and realized the Mets were content to let Ollie rot as the mop up man of all mop up men. This is really a temporary band-aid which does allow the Mets twenty days beyond his dl stint to do rehab.
I hear you Patrick, but my question is, if they had an MRI done in San Diego, why wait until Saturday?
I’m not complaining I just wonder if the league has rules against DL’ing players who aren’t injured in order to not set bad precedents.
There is probably something there. Perhaps not severe enough in normal cases, but something. The wait is likely due to attempting to send him down. But with Niese coming off the DL they used their ace in the hole and DL’d him
You would wait till Saturday because that is when they needed the roster spot.
They couldn’t find someone to read the MRI until yesterday.
I hope he is actually hurt. Not because I want him in pain or anything, but because I hope that his troubles are do to injury. I suspect not though.
It was reported earlier in the week that Boras asked the Mets to put Perez on the DL and they declined. So really, The Mets were the ones who caved.
no the report was they asked him to see a shrink and Minaya denied it last night point blank. Does that mean he was telling the truth? perhaps not, but Boras is a pretty vocal big mouth, if he really did so he would find the nearest microphone.
Well, it was to see the shrink while on the DL but yeah it doesn’t really matter at this point.
This is a start..and I do not mean for Oliver…it is a start to get him to stop wasting a roster spot…hopefully he will work out his problems (although I doubt it) and if not lets keep putting him on the DL
I really like what the Mets have done the past couple days. It really looks as though they are getting rid of all the dead weight. I wish they would have cut Perez but this will due for now. Some might say they moves should have been done early, but at least they are getting done.
agree. just its still a shame that a roster spot didn’t open up forcing the mets to demote Mejia. Sadly, Niese gets to slot into Ollies spot.
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! WORLD SERIES HERE WE COME LOL
While I know that having Ollie out of the picture for a while helps everyone, if he does have a legit injury that is a shame, as much as he aggravates us, we should never wish pain on him or anyone else.
Awesome! Now we just need Blanco to officially be ruled 100% and then bring up Jesus Feliciano and send down Santos.
This is a total guess, based on no facts i’ve seen:
Perhaps the Wilpons chose to DL him in attempt to collect insurance money, rather then cut him outright? Either way, he is not on the 25-man roster, but by DLing him maybe they save a few bucks in the end? Not sure if they even have a separate insurance policy for OP, but it seems on larger contracts it has become a team policy, and if they did own insurance on Olly, it would make sense. (though perhaps OP and $cott Boras would kick and scream if this were the case).
Either way, its nice to get Olly off the team right now, if only because it was sounding like it was rattling the clubhouse.
Except most insurance policies only kick in if the player can no longer play baseball ever.
I thought they kicked in if the player missed the year.
Who would write insurance for the Mets?
Bernie Madoff
Yeah, but how long before the Mets would catch on to him? ;o)
Hoping he can be transferred to 450-day DL. Good riddance.
Geez, Matt, another typo! I think you MEANT to say that “Oliver Perez has been placed on 15-day disabled list with IMAGINARY patella tendinitis of right knee, reports SNY producer Matt Dunn.”
Honestly, can’t you bloggers get anything right?!
Fatso, is that you?
I’m proud of myself for that last post.
What happens 15 days from now? Doesn’t seem like the problem will be solved, only delayed. IMO, I have hard time believing OP will have seen the light in 15 days. Even if he has, no guarantee he will go back to the minors.
I suppose I should stop being negative still and be glad he is gone for at least 15 days.
No OP
No GMJ
No Castillo (Nothing against him, just that his good playing days are behind him, need more production)
A fully homegrown infield. Bay and Pagan were minor leaguers with the Mets at some point. Feels good.
Just imagine how it would feel with …
No Jerry
After the 15 days, you have 20 days to conduct rehab assignments however you see fit, so its almost a month, im sure Ollie still wont be fixed after that but at least there is a bigger window than just 15 days lol
You guys don’t have a clue what the DL means. The 15 daty DLmeans you have to be on the DL the minimum of 15 days There is no maximum.
15 days+ -+ rehab + minor SUCCESSFUL minor league start(s) – he could be gone for awhile !
players can officially file a grievance after day 15 if they feel the team is leaving them on the DL without cause. The moment they begin a rehab assignment a position players had 20 days and a pitcher 30 days max before he needs to be activated or DFA’d or optioned.
The is no technical maximum but the CBA covers abuse.
after 15 days you cant just leave him on the DL, you have to either put him longer, send him for rehab or activate him. In your world a player just goes on the 15 DL and thats it, just stays there forever with no rules or repercussions from the league, I think you have no clue, sorry to say
It’s a beautiful thing.
With the lineup that is posted too, first time in a long time I can take a look at it and actually like it.
I would like to take a moment and thank Ollie’s knee….
Haha lmfao
So, is this the compromise between the team and the Perez camp? He wouldn’t accept a demotion to Buffalo, but he’ll take a DL stint and go work out for a few weeks in PSL as a face-saving alternative?
I guess an “injury” allows him to retain some bits of pride. Pretty sure the outcome will be the same, tho: no sustained improvement, more frustration and disappointment ahead for fans and management.
For the laymans out there I’m going to help you read between the lines on Ollie’s medical report……Knee tendinitis roughly translates to:
Can’t throw 3 strikes before he throws 4 balls.
That is all.
Dammit. That means that Mejia won’t go down.
How much do you have to pay a doctor to diagnose and perform unnecessary surgeries until his contract is up?
As a staunch Castillo supporter, I was prepared to defend him here. Just glanced at his robust .277 slugging percentage and thought better of it.
Oh, I’m also turning in the keys to the Lastings Milledge bandwagon. I’m the last one off. [laughing]
Jesus i didn’t even think that bandwagon still had wheels
I was still holding out hope. I thought he could put it together in a lower pressure environment where he could get regular ABs. Plus, I honestly thought he was a pretty good kid, and liked rooting for him. I still am, but I’m thinking he may be playing in Japan soon…..
I’d love to see a stat — most hits with a man on second that did not result in an RBI. I wonder where Castillo would rank.
I gotta think two things on this.
A- Ollie really is injured with what has been a recurring injury
or
B- Ollie is not injured at all and the Mets gave him what he wanted.
Either way, this means Ollie may not come back to play this year unless he develops a 94 mph heater again.
It may be possible that the owners actually have laid the law down on Omar. They could be seeing the real possibility of competing for the division and that keeping these Ollie, Castillo and Matthews on the team was a drag on their progress. We will now see whether Minaya’s claims about the farm system are. Niese has got to stay healthy, Santos will have to compete again and Tejada will get some time to show he is capable of hitting at the big league level. The holes on the team are beginning to be filled by Mets-bred players and this is the way an organization can advance and management can be judged. You will now have an entire infield of former Mets farmhands that could be together for the next five years. Hopefully, Tejada plays Ike Davis to Castillo’s Daniel Murphy/Wally Pipp. This club needs to stay within striking distance until the All-Star break and these newest moves could help them do that.
Unless You Cerrone know for a fact that Perez is not actually hurt, your statement that it is “great news” that he is on the DL is about as classless a statement that one could make.
Oh please, patellar tendonitis is far from career threatening, let alone life-threatening. Its fantastic news for the Mets and you know it!
Who cares if it is career threatening. Its a great excuse for Ollie to not pitch again from the Mets perscpective. His knee won’t kill him.
Plus a lot of people (if not most) get hurt on their jobs but keep working for a lot less than he does.
Ollie has already proven he cares not a single bit about the team. Why should they worry about his career? They are paying him whether he pitches or not.
And as far as his career, he is set for life. Why should he care if he ever plays again? He will earn the money of 240 average men this season ($50k each). I have no pity for his career. After he gets paid he can simply play for free and still not lack anything ever in life. He doesn’t need a career after this. He will never need anything again in life whether he plays again or not.
He obviously doesn’t understand that baseball is a team game and it takes team players to play at this level. He does not deserve what he gets paid but he is one of the lucky ones who gets it.
The Mets should let him rot in PSL and he can try to get a contract after this or he can choose to go to the minors and rehab himself in hopes he can play again.
Right now the better choice for his career is to take a trip to the minors. Its up to him whether or not to take that trip.
feh, you think everyone is classless, takes one to know one.
wow no castillo, ollie, GMJ…. the negative Met fan needs to find a new villian to complain about…. frenchy was working his way up the list, but he’s been hitting well of late…. who’s next Krod?
Ding ding ding ding ding!
I actually think this can be legit. Something is wrong; at 28-years old you just don’t go from throwing in the mid 90s one season and suddenly drop to the high 80s. Normally its a gradual drop, but he simply lost the velocity. There has to be a reason for the sudden drop. If there is no injury it could be what Ron Darling said during one game his arm angle when he throws.
Other than that there has to be a reason for the sudden drop. In the case of someone like John Maine, he’s had 2-straight years of some kind of injury to his throwing arm and now with this year make it 3-years. So his drop shouldn’t be a suprise, but with Ollie he either has some kind of injury or its possibly his arm angle like Ronnie said.
Yeah I agree. It sort of reminds me of Rick Vaughn in Major League 2. I truly think he has forgotten how to throw hard. He has never had arm trouble so why all of a sudden would it begin with such a drastic drop in velocity. Either his knee is hurting him and not giving him the push off he needs or they tried to make him a strike thrower when he was better of just being wild and inconsistent. That wild Ollie would throw a dud every 3rd start but the ones in between were usually pretty amazing. He was wild but he threw hard so he could make mistakes. Now with his fastball at 89-91 and his slider at 86-88 hitters could just sit fastball and adjust. He either needs to find a way of getting his velo back or spend time learning how to add and subtract from his fastball and slider. Without either of those 2 things he can’t be successful.
Santana throws 88-93 but he knows how to take a little off his fastball and locate and he throws change ups in 3 different speeds. Add that to his slider and he is Johan.
Yeah, but Ollie isn’t Johan and that isn’t a knock against Ollie. Hell most pitchers aren’t Johan. He’s a guy that can get away with not throwing 95. In the case for guys like Ollie and Maine for that matter they need to throw hard.
I’m not sure about Maine, but I think with the proper changes, Ollie can get away with lower velocity, but it takes time to ajust. Regardless, Ollie isn’t Johan so just because he can get away with lower velocity doesn’t mean Ollie can.
It seems like only yesterday, spring training with Sandy Koufax sitting in on Ollie Perez’s pitching sessions, and Santana taking him under his wing.
getting ollie off the roster is only a small part of the solution … they still need to add another #3 starter and a cleanup hitter if they plan on going anywhere this year
very very true…hopefully ollie lands on the 18 month DL
This is what is funny. We so not need a cleanup hitter, because and cleanuup hitter that comes to the Mets won’t be a clean-up hitter at Citi Field. Think. Jason Bay? Anyway, Rod Barajas has enough HRs to bat cleanup. But you would say he strikes out to much. Well guess what. EVERY HITTER STRIKES OUT!
I would trade for Kevin Millwood. Now look at rotation:
Santana
Pelfrey
Niese
Millwood
Dickey
look I know it is “early” yet with Dickey, but the guy has pitched better than anyone not named Santana or Pelfrey thus far.
Love how Dickey is doing – Milwood is o.k. definitely an upgrade from the patchwork starters replacing Ollie. Would not be unhappy to see Ollie never pitch in a Mets uniform again (We’re not that lucky)
So the Mets have 6 starting pitchers?
Who goes to the bullpen?
who start tomorrow? takahashi?
“So and so is going on the DL….
Great news!”
HAHAHA
How pathetic is that!
And, we’re keeping this loser why?
Even more pathetic!
Cut the cord!
they are keeping this loser because they still think there is a chance he could get back enough to be a useful SP again. And they aren’t going to pay him to do it elsewhere.
because if there is the remotest possibility that they can retain some value from the schlep they should maximize it, they have him away from the team at the moment and likely for 35 to 45 days, so that is great for the time being. We can worry at or after the all-star break what the Mets need to do with his sorry performance.
“….the thing is, why did this take two weeks to come up with this conclusion… ?”
That’s how the Mets do business.
Well im glad all these gone for now or atleast for a month..well gmjr gone check,ollie gone check,castillo gone check,maine gone check,..
I think the only one I don’t want is fernado nieve he another figgy like it or not.. and last year was a fluke for him sorry to say.. But lets go mets and lets have this team take off
All these players are*
Ollie has no pride..if he did, he would have gone down to 3A weeks ago..or to his Sports Shrink of choice. No, Ollie is going on the (imaginary) DL to save the Pride of Omar. Remember, just as our US Presidents leave a letter on the Oval Office Desk for the incumbant, so too does the Manager/GM who gets fired,for the next one in line. If/when Omar is jetisoned, he will want another job somewhere and there’s a better chance he will get that chance, if he has less than a ‘$36Million Albatross’ to account for in his prior position. “Ollie could never get it right, due to KNEE PROBLEMS.” Yeah, that’s on Omar’s resume…..Addition by Subtraction is a beautiful thing!
I wonder if this is the “phantom injury” I was hoping for.
Made up injury or not, this is a good move. I like it even better if there is nothing wrong with Ollie’s knee, a true F U to the arrogant southpaw. Let it sink in for him that he is not wanted on the major league team.
Ollie P on the 15 day DL — Docs say he has Can’tthrowastrikeitis
Docs say John Maine has too much sand in his mang*na, very liitle chance of curing one of these cases!!!
My friend brought this to my attention. Like I posted earlier, I wondered if the league might do something.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/mets/
watch the mets get fined…
Source: MLB will review Perez medical records »
BY ANDY MARTINO
According to a league official, Major League Baseball will independently review Oliver Perez’s medical records, including the MRI he underwent Friday. The official said that the league often takes that step when injuries are in need of clarification.
“This could be 100 percent legitimate,” the official said. “When there are questions, we look into it.”******.
If MLB finds that the mets F’ed up then he’s back on the 25 and the mets will have to pay
And by then Santos can go back to the minors
I’m pretty sure that MLB will not say “he was healthy – reinstate him”. But the bigger question is what happens now? Do the Mets HAVE TO let him do a rehab assignment? Can they just leave him on the DL indefinitely, on the theory that putting the ball on a tee gives them a better chance of winning?
Are there rules allowing a player to get himself OFF the DL?